Windows Update Settings and CHKDSK clash!

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choro

I thought I had Windows Updates or rather MS Updates set for auto
downloading but asking me whether to install. Somehow it changed to this
auto-update shit. And to make matters worse I was in the middle of
chkdsk'ing a massive XHD (External HD) when I heard the computer
re-start. And I lost a whole 24 hours spent chkdsk'ing that XHD. It sure
takes a heck of a long time to chkdsk a 1TB drive especially when you
click both options when it also tries to repair faulty sectors.

If my W7 machine were a person I could have wrung its neck.

Anyway how long does it take for chkdsk with all the options ticked to
be done with a 1TB HD? Anybody know?

And couldn't anybody at MS think of this possibility and stop Windows
updating itself while it was CHKDSK'ing a drive?
 
C

Charlie+

I thought I had Windows Updates or rather MS Updates set for auto
downloading but asking me whether to install. Somehow it changed to this
auto-update shit. And to make matters worse I was in the middle of
chkdsk'ing a massive XHD (External HD) when I heard the computer
re-start. And I lost a whole 24 hours spent chkdsk'ing that XHD. It sure
takes a heck of a long time to chkdsk a 1TB drive especially when you
click both options when it also tries to repair faulty sectors.

If my W7 machine were a person I could have wrung its neck.

Anyway how long does it take for chkdsk with all the options ticked to
be done with a 1TB HD? Anybody know?

And couldn't anybody at MS think of this possibility and stop Windows
updating itself while it was CHKDSK'ing a drive?

I ran chkdsk on a 500GB disk that had lost some MB in physical damage,
it took 48 hours before I gave up and shifted to a proper prog for the
job, once chkdsk found a suspicious sector it took about 2-3 minutes
each poor sector and to mark it bad, so it could take forever if the
disk is damaged. And of course there is no feedback on what it is
doing while running. So not ideal. C+
 
P

Paul

choro said:
I thought I had Windows Updates or rather MS Updates set for auto
downloading but asking me whether to install. Somehow it changed to this
auto-update shit. And to make matters worse I was in the middle of
chkdsk'ing a massive XHD (External HD) when I heard the computer
re-start. And I lost a whole 24 hours spent chkdsk'ing that XHD. It sure
takes a heck of a long time to chkdsk a 1TB drive especially when you
click both options when it also tries to repair faulty sectors.

If my W7 machine were a person I could have wrung its neck.

Anyway how long does it take for chkdsk with all the options ticked to
be done with a 1TB HD? Anybody know?

And couldn't anybody at MS think of this possibility and stop Windows
updating itself while it was CHKDSK'ing a drive?

I have an idea. Next time, pull the network cable :)

No Internet, no NSA, no Windows Update :)

No problem.

CHKDSK complete.

Paul
 
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Alias

I thought I had Windows Updates or rather MS Updates set for auto
downloading but asking me whether to install. Somehow it changed to this
auto-update shit. And to make matters worse I was in the middle of
chkdsk'ing a massive XHD (External HD) when I heard the computer
re-start. And I lost a whole 24 hours spent chkdsk'ing that XHD. It sure
takes a heck of a long time to chkdsk a 1TB drive especially when you
click both options when it also tries to repair faulty sectors.

If my W7 machine were a person I could have wrung its neck.

Anyway how long does it take for chkdsk with all the options ticked to
be done with a 1TB HD? Anybody know?

And couldn't anybody at MS think of this possibility and stop Windows
updating itself while it was CHKDSK'ing a drive?

Set it to not download, not install, only inform.
 
W

...winston‫

choro said:
I thought I had Windows Updates or rather MS Updates set for auto
downloading but asking me whether to install. Somehow it changed to this
auto-update shit. And to make matters worse I was in the middle of
chkdsk'ing a massive XHD (External HD) when I heard the computer
re-start. And I lost a whole 24 hours spent chkdsk'ing that XHD. It sure
takes a heck of a long time to chkdsk a 1TB drive especially when you
click both options when it also tries to repair faulty sectors.

If my W7 machine were a person I could have wrung its neck.

Anyway how long does it take for chkdsk with all the options ticked to
be done with a 1TB HD? Anybody know?

And couldn't anybody at MS think of this possibility and stop Windows
updating itself while it was CHKDSK'ing a drive?
Historically folks have reported that a few updates (IE new version, a
variety of Office application non-security updates and
new/re-installation of Office suite) flip WU to automatic mode.
 
Y

Yousuf Khan

Set it to not download, not install, only inform.

Yup, been doing that for years. With today's high speed Internet
connections it shouldn't take very long to download even the biggest
Windows patches.

Yousuf Khan
 
C

choro

I have an idea. Next time, pull the network cable :)

No Internet, no NSA, no Windows Update :)

No problem.

CHKDSK complete.

Paul

Don't worry, I thought of that but only *after* the event. As you say in
English, the horse had already bolted. Or as we say it more crudely in
my language, granny bolted the door only *after* getting laid! ;-)--
choro
*****
 
C

choro

Set it to not download, not install, only inform.

That's what I thought my settings were. I must have changed it at some
stage and forgotten about it. It is back to download but ask me whether
to install.
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C

choro

Historically folks have reported that a few updates (IE new version, a
variety of Office application non-security updates and
new/re-installation of Office suite) flip WU to automatic mode.

Shite! That's entering by the back door!--
choro
*****
 
G

Gene E. Bloch

Don't worry, I thought of that but only *after* the event. As you say in
English, the horse had already bolted. Or as we say it more crudely in
my language, granny bolted the door only *after* getting laid! ;-)--
choro
*****

She might have preferred it that way :)
 
G

Gene E. Bloch

Historically folks have reported that a few updates (IE new version, a
variety of Office application non-security updates and
new/re-installation of Office suite) flip WU to automatic mode.

I don't think that has *ever* happened to me, and I've been running
Windows in the notify-only mode since approximately the Siege of
Leningrad.
 
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Robert Baer

choro said:
I thought I had Windows Updates or rather MS Updates set for auto
downloading but asking me whether to install. Somehow it changed to this
auto-update shit. And to make matters worse I was in the middle of
chkdsk'ing a massive XHD (External HD) when I heard the computer
re-start. And I lost a whole 24 hours spent chkdsk'ing that XHD. It sure
takes a heck of a long time to chkdsk a 1TB drive especially when you
click both options when it also tries to repair faulty sectors.

If my W7 machine were a person I could have wrung its neck.

Anyway how long does it take for chkdsk with all the options ticked to
be done with a 1TB HD? Anybody know?

And couldn't anybody at MS think of this possibility and stop Windows
updating itself while it was CHKDSK'ing a drive?
You,like all the other stupid idiots, DO NOT turn off ALL updates
_immediately_ on install.
Your own damn fault.
IF and only if _you_ want something updated, do it manually.
Only possible exception is AV signatures.
And, BTW, WFT was the computer connected to the internet?
 
Z

Zaphod Beeblebrox

On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:58:58 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch" <not-
(e-mail address removed)> wrote in article
I don't think that has *ever* happened to me, and I've been running
Windows in the notify-only mode since approximately the Siege of
Leningrad.

Me too neither.

--
Zaphod

"So [Trillian], two heads is what does it for a girl?"
"...Anything else [Zaphod]'s got two of?"
- Arthur Dent
 
R

Robin Bignall

On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:58:58 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch" <not-
(e-mail address removed)> wrote in article


Me too neither.

Interesting. I, too, have update set to 'download and inform me' and
have had for years, but a few minutes after I logged on Wednesday this
week I got a message saying Windows would restart in 15 minutes, with
the options of 'restart now' or 'cancel update'. Yesterday I had
another update (for Defender) that simply told me it was there, awaiting
me to apply it.
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Interesting. I, too, have update set to 'download and inform me' and
have had for years, but a few minutes after I logged on Wednesday this
week I got a message saying Windows would restart in 15 minutes, with
the options of 'restart now' or 'cancel update'. Yesterday I had
another update (for Defender) that simply told me it was there, awaiting
me to apply it.

OK, now I'm getting worried :)

It sounds like things might be changing - or maybe there's a new bug
somewhere in Windows Update (other than the design flaws).
 
J

Joe Morris

choro said:
I thought I had Windows Updates or rather MS Updates set for auto
downloading but asking me whether to install. Somehow it changed to this
auto-update shit. And to make matters worse I was in the middle of
chkdsk'ing a massive XHD (External HD) when I heard the computer
re-start. And I lost a whole 24 hours spent chkdsk'ing that XHD. It sure
takes a heck of a long time to chkdsk a 1TB drive especially when you
click both options when it also tries to repair faulty sectors.

By any chance have you recently changed the operation of Windows Update to
handle Microsoft products other than Windows (e.g., Office, Visual Studio,
etc.)? On my home systems I disable automatic update by policy (a Registry
change to make the system think it received a GPO), and when I tell it to
support other MS products it insists on turning AU back on - which it can't
do because the pseudo-policy forbids it - and when the attempt fails it
throws a hissy fit and says that the entire change failed.

Despite this Dire Error Message the system now allows user-initiated "check
for updates" that service the other MS products, and AU remains disabled.

Schtoopid. Almost as schtoopid as the way that volume-licensed Visio 2010
activation via KMS is mishandled...but that's another story.


Joe
 
C

choro

By any chance have you recently changed the operation of Windows Update to
handle Microsoft products other than Windows (e.g., Office, Visual Studio,

Yes I did but that was on my XP laptop and NOT on my W7 desktop. So the
short answer to your question is NO!
 
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Robin Bignall

By any chance have you recently changed the operation of Windows Update to
handle Microsoft products other than Windows (e.g., Office, Visual Studio,
etc.)?

No, I've always had updates for other M$ products set, and 'download but
don't install'. It has worked until the last month or two, when I've
started having those 'Windows will restart in 15 minutes' messages.
Maybe something has been changed deliberately or accidentally by an
update. It's no big deal for me to stop what I'm doing and restart, but
it could be a real pain for some users.
 

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