Windows Update requirest for update for net framework v 3.5 and IE8

R

Roy

Hello Group
Recently I checked the needed updates for the recently SP3 upgraded
PC and was notified that I had to install the Net FRamework version
3.5 and Internet Explorer 8.
Knowing the problems that other users had with IE8 this is out of the
question ,, I willl stick with IE 6, are there any issues if I kept it
that way? How about IE7.

Another question, this PC already had the Net framework version 2
therefore I would like to know if the the version 3.5 confer some
benefits to this WinXP Home run PC... and if installled will it
displace the version 2.0?
TIA
 
T

Tim Meddick

The .Net Framework environment is only needed to run SOME microsoft
applications. (Microsoft's Speed Launch being one example) It is not vital
to XP at all and since you already have a version of it on your system, then
unless an application you want to use specifically requests that you upgrade
to 3.5, then I'd just leave it as it is.
As for IE7 & 8: I personally don't like either or them, and there's a
'cure' for them available from Microsoft:

For IE8
http://download.microsoft.com/downl...-4DB2-94F5-E512BADFC6A3/IE8BlockerToolkit.EXE

For IE7
http://download.microsoft.com/downl...-4854-a6b7-54083563c146/IE7BlockerToolkit.EXE

These tools enable you to stop IE7 and IE8 from ever being installed. Just
download and run them in [separate] empty folders then run the .CMD file (or
install the .ADMs for Group Policy Editor if you like) in each and you will
never be bothered by IE 7 or 8 updates again. (though there is an undo
function to each, also) It is, of course, up to you. However, I'd take
some time to try out IE7 and 8 on other machines (like at work or an
internet café) if you can, to get a 'feel for them and see if you (like me)
really hate them.
I just prefer the 'simplicity' of IE6 and, as I have not been barraged
with error messages saying "this page cannot be displayed properly" I will
continue to use it as long as possible.

==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)
 
T

Tim Meddick

Also, I forgot to add. Yes, 3.5 will totally supplant any previous versions
as all .Net Framework versions are all cumulative. If you have applications
that are specifically dependant on .Net Framework installed on your system,
then yes version 3.5 is better. However, it consumes space and resources,
so to avoid a pointless exercise, check if you actually have any
applications installed that use it, although you'd probably already know
about it if you had.


==



Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)
 
L

Lil' Dave

Roy said:
Hello Group
Recently I checked the needed updates for the recently SP3 upgraded
PC and was notified that I had to install the Net FRamework version
3.5 and Internet Explorer 8.

Nope. Those are optional, not required.
Knowing the problems that other users had with IE8 this is out of the
question ,, I willl stick with IE 6, are there any issues if I kept it
that way? How about IE7.

If online security is not an issue for you, you're fine.
Another question, this PC already had the Net framework version 2
therefore I would like to know if the the version 3.5 confer some
benefits to this WinXP Home run PC...

None, zero, zilch benefits
and if installled will it
displace the version 2.0?

Each singular numerical version of Net Framework is a separate entity in
itself.
 
R

Roy

Nope.  Those are optional, not required.


If online security is not an issue for you, you're fine.


Thanks for your reply but what is interesting is the new information
that the IE8 can give better security than IE6?
Why is it necessary if I am already a solid antimalware in the form of
Kaspersky Internet Security in my PC?
 
S

Shenan Stanley

Roy said:
Recently I checked the needed updates for the recently SP3 upgraded
PC and was notified that I had to install the Net FRamework version
3.5 and Internet Explorer 8.
Knowing the problems that other users had with IE8 this is out of
the question ,, I willl stick with IE 6, are there any issues if I
kept it that way? How about IE7.

Another question, this PC already had the Net framework version 2
therefore I would like to know if the the version 3.5 confer some
benefits to this WinXP Home run PC... and if installled will it
displace the version 2.0?

Lil' Dave said:
Nope. Those are optional, not required.

If online security is not an issue for you, you're fine.

None, zero, zilch benefits

Each singular numerical version of Net Framework is a separate
entity in itself.
Thanks for your reply but what is interesting is the new
information that the IE8 can give better security than IE6?
Why is it necessary if I am already a solid antimalware in the form
of Kaspersky Internet Security in my PC?

People like to throw around words like "necessary" a lot - especially when
it comes to updates (when they have fears that their system will just stop
working everytime they update.)

In terms of your computer, everything is optional. It's your computer.
Now - your choices may lead you down a path where you no longer are able to
get current updates for your operating system or install the latest
application/driver or something along those lines - but that is just another
choice *you* have to make.

If you want to run your computer without a firewall, without antivirus
software, without antispyware software and so on - that's your choice.
Whether or not it is a wise choice - most would agree it probably isn't, but
it is *your* choice. Nothing "necessary" about it.

You can continue to run Internet Explorer 6 on Windows XP for as long as you
desire. You can choose to protect yourself with third party applications,
antivirus, antispyware and firewalls. You can choose to not install any
service pack onto Windows XP, SP1a, SP2 or SP3. Then you can decide what
patches you want (given what you will be offered may be limited by your
choice of service pack level) after that. Each choice you make could either
open up more choices or shut some down. Nothing says you couldn't
reconsider your choices later down the line - but you have to live with the
possible consequences of the current ones until you do.

You should research and look into what might be best. For example - as it
has been for centuries - the best defenses against any attack have been
multi-layered. Let's say there is a known issue in "Application A" that
*will not* be fixed because "Application A" is not supported by the
manufacturer anymore. "Application A" has a predecessor ("Application B")
that does not have this weakness and "Application B" is still supported by
the manufacturer. Even if you have a way already in place (say
"Anti-Everything Software A") to protect yourself against the known issue -
would it be wiser to not have the issue at all and use the "Anti-Everything
Software A" as a second layer of protection instead of the bubblegum in the
crack in the dam? The bubblegum in the crack in the dam may do you just
fine until you replace the entire dam - or you may have other layers in
place that make you feel secure enough (boat and a lifejacket maybe?)

That's *your* choice. No one elses when it comes to your computer.

Generally - a computer that is well maintained - dutifully - will function
fine for many years without incident.
 
J

Jon

The .NET 3.5 version includes service pack 2 for .NET version 2 (the one that you say is used on
your PC) which has bug fixes.

It also adds .NET versions 3.0 and 3.5 in addition to (rather than instead of) version 2. You don't
actually need these two extra versions, and if you ever install a programme that does need either of
these versions, the setup for the programme would install the required version.

If all you need is to update .NET version 2 to service pack 2, you can do this with this download
www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=5b2c0358-915b-4eb5-9b1d-10e506da9d0f&displaylang=en
which does not add .NET versions 3.0 and 3.5.



Hello Group
Recently I checked the needed updates for the recently SP3 upgraded
PC and was notified that I had to install the Net FRamework version
3.5 and Internet Explorer 8.
Knowing the problems that other users had with IE8 this is out of the
question ,, I willl stick with IE 6, are there any issues if I kept it
that way? How about IE7.

Another question, this PC already had the Net framework version 2
therefore I would like to know if the the version 3.5 confer some
benefits to this WinXP Home run PC... and if installled will it
displace the version 2.0?
TIA
 
R

Roy

People like to throw around words like "necessary" a lot - especially when
it comes to updates (when they have fears that their system will just stop
working everytime they update.)

In terms of your computer, everything is optional.  It's your computer.
 Now - your choices may lead you down a path where you no longer are able to
get current updates for your operating system or install the latest
application/driver or something along those lines - but that is just another
choice *you* have to make.

If you want to run your computer without a firewall, without antivirus
software, without antispyware software and so on - that's your choice.
Whether or not it is a wise choice - most would agree it probably isn't, but
it is *your* choice.  Nothing "necessary" about it.

You can continue to run Internet Explorer 6 on Windows XP for as long as you
desire.  You can choose to protect yourself with third party applications,
antivirus, antispyware and firewalls.  You can choose to not install any
service pack onto Windows XP, SP1a, SP2 or SP3.  Then you can decide what
patches you want (given what you will be offered may be limited by your
choice of service pack level) after that.  Each choice you make could either
open up more choices or shut some down.  Nothing says you couldn't
reconsider your choices later down the line - but you have to live with the
possible consequences of the current ones until you do.

You should research and look into what might be best.  For example - asit
has been for centuries - the best defenses against any attack have been
multi-layered.  Let's say there is a known issue in "Application A" that
*will not* be fixed because "Application A" is not supported by the
manufacturer anymore.  "Application A" has a predecessor ("Application B")
that does not have this weakness and "Application B" is still supported by
the manufacturer.  Even if you have a way already in place (say
"Anti-Everything Software A") to protect yourself against the known issue-
would it be wiser to not have the issue at all and use the "Anti-Everything
Software A" as a second layer of protection instead of the bubblegum in the
crack in the dam?  The bubblegum in the crack in the dam may do you just
fine until you replace the entire dam - or you may have other layers in
place that make you feel secure enough (boat and a lifejacket maybe?)

That's *your* choice.  No one elses when it comes to your computer.

Generally - a computer that is well maintained - dutifully - will function
fine for many years without incident.

Thanks for that insight Shenan!
 
R

Roy

The .Net Framework environment is only needed to run SOME microsoft
applications. (Microsoft's Speed Launch being one example) It is not vital
to XP at all and since you already have a version of it on your system, then
unless an application you want to use specifically requests that you upgrade
to 3.5, then I'd just leave it as it is.
    As for IE7 & 8: I personally don't like either or them, and there's a
'cure' for them available from Microsoft:

For IE8http://download.microsoft.com/download/6/6/F/66FC87A9-3A3F-4DB2-94F5-...

For IE7http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/1/3/013113f4-700b-4854-a6b7-...

These tools enable you to stop IE7 and IE8 from ever being installed.  Just
download and run them in [separate] empty folders then run the .CMD file (or
install the .ADMs for Group Policy Editor if you like) in each and you will
never be bothered by IE 7 or 8 updates again.  (though there is an undo
function to each, also)  It is, of course, up to you.  However, I'd take
some time to try out IE7 and 8 on other machines (like at work or an
internet café) if you can, to get a 'feel for them and see if you (likeme)
really hate them.
    I just prefer the 'simplicity' of IE6 and, as I have not been barraged
with error messages saying "this page cannot be displayed properly" I will
continue to use it as long as possible.

==

Cheers,    Tim Meddick,    Peckham, London.    :)




Hello Group
Recently I checked the needed updates for the recently  SP3 upgraded
PC and was notified that I had to install the Net FRamework version
3.5 and Internet Explorer 8.
Knowing the problems that other users had with IE8 this is out of the
question ,, I willl stick with IE 6, are there any issues if I kept it
that way? How about IE7.
Another question, this PC already had the Net framework version 2
therefore I  would like to know if the  the version 3.5 confer some
benefits to this WinXP Home run PC... and if installled will it
displace the version 2.0?
TIA- Hide quoted text -

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Thanks for that info Tim!
 
R

Roy

Roy, are you referring to the computer in this thread? =>http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/bro...

You've got so many threads going, it's kinda hard to keep track.  Best to
always reply to one (1) thread instead of always beginning new threads about
the same machine.

All of your recent threads:http://groups.google.com/groups/search?enc_author=_YR5aBIAAABni-OHuZn...

--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002





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Windows request update....is the one..
BTW. I would prefer to have specific topic to be sorted out than
mixing it all together, although sometimes it can happen that they had
related issues
 

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