Window defender missing?

B

Bruce Hagen

I'm convinced. I did just run OneCare after removing AVG and it did find
two AVG entries that it deleted.

That has been my experience in the past. I.E., It found many entries
that I know should not be there. After getting rid of a Symatic program
once I removed hundreds (with a different program).

And I like neatness so it bothers me to have a file full of junk.

But I'm sure if it screwed up my SQL Server or VS 2010 I be a bit
unhappy.

So I.m just not going to think about the junk that may be in those files
from now on, bite my lip, and leave well enough alone.


Thanks


Little bits and pieces of previous programs in the registry usually don't
cause a problem. However, getting rid of AV programs entirely should be
considered. Rather than a registry cleaner, there are specific programs
for this. Here are some.

Norton Removal Tool
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039

App Remover
http://www.technibble.com/appremover-repair-tool-of-the-week/

AppRemover is a small, free and portable utility designed to be a single
removal tool for a huge list of security products. It can remove products
made by Avast!, AVG, Avira, BullGuard, CA, ClamWin, ESET, F-Secure,
Kaspersky, Lavasoft, McAfee, Microsoft, Norman, Panda, Sophos, Symantec,
TrendMicro, TrustPort, Webroot and many more.

AppRemover Supported Applications
http://www.appremover.com/supported-applications
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Cal said:
That clears that up! I have XP.

I wonder if I could sneak one more question in here.

I believe Defender also replaces Windows Live OneCare (been reading the
Internet).

I didn't have a subscription but used it ocasionally to clean the
registry.

Am I now in a position where there is no free ms Registry cleaner?

Where to begin?

You may have run Windows Live OneCare Safety Center "Full Service" online
scan but you did not install OneCare without paying for it.

Those currently running OneCare might consider replacing OneCare with
Microsoft Security Essentials BEFORE their current subscription expires.

Finally, if you ever think your Registry needs to be cleaned, repaired,
boosted, tuned-up, cured, tweaked, fixed, or optimized (it doesn't), read
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 and draw your own conclusions.
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Now I need a replacement for Windows Live OneCare registry cleaner!



I *strongly* recommend against this. You should run *no* registry
cleaner.

Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the
registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and
don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and
what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of,
having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you.

The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
it may have.

Read http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html

And also
http://blogs.technet.com/markrussin.../02/registry-junk-a-windows-fact-of-life.aspx

Let me point out that neither I nor anyone else who warns against the
use of registry cleaners has ever said that they always cause
problems. If they always caused problems, they would disappear from
the market almost immediately. Many people have used a registry
cleaner and never had a problem with it.

Rather, the problem with a registry cleaner is that it carries with it
the substantial *risk* of having a problem. And since there is no
benefit to using a registry cleaner, running that risk is a very bad
bargain.
 
C

Cal Who

PA Bear said:
Where to begin?

You may have run Windows Live OneCare Safety Center "Full Service" online
scan but you did not install OneCare without paying for it.

Those currently running OneCare might consider replacing OneCare with
Microsoft Security Essentials BEFORE their current subscription expires.

Finally, if you ever think your Registry needs to be cleaned, repaired,
boosted, tuned-up, cured, tweaked, fixed, or optimized (it doesn't), read
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 and draw your own conclusions.
I don't need to read it. I'm already convinced.

Thanks
 
C

Cal Who

Daave said:
MS stands for Microsoft.

Microsoft, among other things, sells operating systems.

The operating systems are all called Windows.

Windows XP does not include Windows Defender becuase it predates Windows
Defender. Windows Defender didn't exist in 2002!

Windows Vista does include Windows Defender.

Hope that clears things up!

Thanks
 
C

Cal Who

Bruce Hagen said:
Little bits and pieces of previous programs in the registry usually don't
cause a problem. However, getting rid of AV programs entirely should be
considered. Rather than a registry cleaner, there are specific programs
for this. Here are some.

Norton Removal Tool
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039

App Remover
http://www.technibble.com/appremover-repair-tool-of-the-week/

AppRemover is a small, free and portable utility designed to be a single
removal tool for a huge list of security products. It can remove products
made by Avast!, AVG, Avira, BullGuard, CA, ClamWin, ESET, F-Secure,
Kaspersky, Lavasoft, McAfee, Microsoft, Norman, Panda, Sophos, Symantec,
TrendMicro, TrustPort, Webroot and many more.

AppRemover Supported Applications
http://www.appremover.com/supported-applications

I ran it and it didn't find anything.
I'm going to leave the registry alone from now on.

Thanks
 
C

Cal Who

Ken Blake said:
I *strongly* recommend against this. You should run *no* registry
cleaner.

Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the
registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and
don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and
what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of,
having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you.

The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
it may have.

Read http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html

And also
http://blogs.technet.com/markrussin.../02/registry-junk-a-windows-fact-of-life.aspx

Let me point out that neither I nor anyone else who warns against the
use of registry cleaners has ever said that they always cause
problems. If they always caused problems, they would disappear from
the market almost immediately. Many people have used a registry
cleaner and never had a problem with it.

Rather, the problem with a registry cleaner is that it carries with it
the substantial *risk* of having a problem. And since there is no
benefit to using a registry cleaner, running that risk is a very bad
bargain.

Thanks you, I've made up my mind not to use one (again).
 

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