Window defender missing?

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Bruce Hagen said:
WD is not an automatic update.
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It's not the first time I guessed wrong.

How does the typical MS user learn about such MS offering as Defender?


Thanks



 
Cal Who said:
Do you recommend that I remove AVG 9 now that I have MSE.

Is MS supplying a AV program free?

I think the default MSE schedule is to run once a week the quick
version.

Is that enough?

Does it check e-mail and other things in real time like AVG does?





Thanks
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MSE does all and more than AVG free and is also freeware. It is an
Anti-Virus, Anti-Spam and Anti-Malware program all in one.

I have mine set to do a quick scan once a week myself. I don't even notice
it did it if I don't check the log. (IOW, very un-intrusive).

MSE does not contain e-mail scanning in the same form of other AV
programs, but is always protecting you from malicious e-mail as well as
any program. It does have real-time protection on all your files,
including temp files where attachments may be opened to.

E-mail scanning is not needed in ant e-mail program and is often the cause
of problems rather than a cure.

<canned>

Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant
layer of protection that eats up CPUs, slows down sending and receiving,
and causes a multitude of problems such as time-outs, account setting
changes and has even been responsible for loss of messages. Your
up-to-date A/V program will continue to protect you sufficiently. For
more, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm
 
Cal Who said:
The default that comes with MSE is a quick scan once a week. Itt seems
to me that it only has to scan for virus etc that were add to its list
since the last scan. True?

I should get rid of AVG which I also have installed?

Can't have two AV programs running??


Thanks
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See my other reply, and yes, you need to uninstall AVG. You should never
have 2 AV programs running at the same time.
 
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It's not the first time I guessed wrong.

How does the typical MS user learn about such MS offering as Defender?
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Visit Microsoft Download Center from time to time.
 
Bruce said:
The OP did not say WD was not installed, he said he couldn't find it. I
asked if MSE was installed because on some Windows Versions, installing
MSE actually removes WD.
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WD is not included in any version of Windows XP, the topic of this
newsgroup.
 
Cal said:
VanguardLH wrote ...


I let MS automatically update my machine. Is it any good and for some reason
not automatically install? If so, do you know why that is so?
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*YOU* will have to install WD or MSE. Automatic Updates won't do it.
 
VanguardLH said:
*YOU* will have to install WD or MSE. Automatic Updates won't do it.
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I understand that but I think my question was about why MS does not include
it in the auto installation process.

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Cal Who wrote:
I just installed MSE and wonder what yourlast comment means. Do I have to
manully run it sometime. I believe it is scheduled to run by itself. I did
not change any of the settings?
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In Vista & Win7, installing MSE disables Defender by default.

In WinXP with Defender installed, installing MSE will remove it.

cf.
http://social.answers.microsoft.com...t/thread/5309cb8d-02e1-40e8-974f-0dcedb9ab9fd

Microsoft Security Essentials Support Forums
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/mse
 
PA Bear said:
Cal Who wrote:


In Vista & Win7, installing MSE disables Defender by default.

In WinXP with Defender installed, installing MSE will remove it.
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That clears that up! I have XP.

I wonder if I could sneak one more question in here.

I believe Defender also replaces Windows Live OneCare (been reading the
Internet).

I didn't have a subscription but used it ocasionally to clean the registry.

Am I now in a position where there is no free ms Registry cleaner?


Thanks very much
 
Bruce said:
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Visit Microsoft Download Center from time to time.
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Doesn't Windows Vista come with Windows Defender? If so, if one has used
a PC with Windows Vista on it, they might erroneously assume that it
comes standard with Windows XP, too (like IE).
 
Cal Who said:
That clears that up! I have XP.

I wonder if I could sneak one more question in here.

I believe Defender also replaces Windows Live OneCare (been reading the
Internet).

I didn't have a subscription but used it ocasionally to clean the
registry.

Am I now in a position where there is no free ms Registry cleaner?


Thanks very much
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MSE replaced OneCare, WD did not.

Why on earth would you want to use a registry cleaner? There are plenty of
free ones out there, but read this before running a registry cleaner and
then take your chances.
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099
 
VanguardLH said:
You are probably thinking of the monthly malware scanner (aka Malicious
Software Removal Tool). That has a basic list of signatures, gets
downloaded by AU (if *you* opt for it), runs, then removes itself. A
monthly scan, assuming you include it in the AU list, is hardly
reasonable protection against malware.

http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.aspx

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/890830
"The Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool does not replace an
antivirus product. It is strictly a post-infection removal tool.
Therefore, we strongly recommend that you install and use an up-to-date
antivirus product."
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I recognize the name now that you show it. That is it.

So now that I finally learned that it and Defender are different Defender is
no more! :-)

Now I need a replacement for Windows Live OneCare registry cleaner!


Thanks for staying with me on this!
 
Cal said:
Now I need a replacement for Windows Live OneCare registry cleaner!
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Actually, you *don't* need a replacement for it. ;-)

Registry cleaners offer no appreciable performance benefit and can
sometimes even damage your system.
 
Cal said:
I understand that but I think my question was about why MS does not
include it in the auto installation process.
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MS stands for Microsoft.

Microsoft, among other things, sells operating systems.

The operating systems are all called Windows.

Windows XP does not include Windows Defender becuase it predates Windows
Defender. Windows Defender didn't exist in 2002!

Windows Vista does include Windows Defender.

Hope that clears things up!
 
Bruce Hagen said:
MSE replaced OneCare, WD did not.

Why on earth would you want to use a registry cleaner? There are plenty of
free ones out there, but read this before running a registry cleaner and
then take your chances.
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099
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I'm convinced. I did just run OneCare after removing AVG and it did find two
AVG entries that it deleted.

That has been my experience in the past. I.E., It found many entries that I
know should not be there. After getting rid of a Symatic program once I
removed hundreds (with a different program).

And I like neatness so it bothers me to have a file full of junk.

But I'm sure if it screwed up my SQL Server or VS 2010 I be a bit unhappy.

So I.m just not going to think about the junk that may be in those files
from now on, bite my lip, and leave well enough alone.


Thanks
 
Daave said:
Actually, you *don't* need a replacement for it. ;-)

Registry cleaners offer no appreciable performance benefit and can
sometimes even damage your system.
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I'm convinced now.

Going to stay away from Registry cleaners.

Thanks
 
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