Win XP Upgrade

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I currently have a Win 2K Pro system that I had hoped I
wouldn't have to upgrade, but there is a software package
I want to purchase that runs on XP and above. So
I have some questions...

Does the "Upgrade" allow me to install from scratch?
(I heard installing on top of an old system is not
a good idea).

I'm seeing a price of about $185 for XP Pro upgrade.
Will the price come down in the next couple of months?

TIA
 
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Bruce Chambers

I currently have a Win 2K Pro system that I had hoped I
wouldn't have to upgrade, but there is a software package
I want to purchase that runs on XP and above. So
I have some questions...

Does the "Upgrade" allow me to install from scratch?


Yes, it's quite possible to perform a clean installation using the
WinXP Upgrade CD, provided you have the true installation CD for the
earlier OS.

Simply boot from the WinXP Upgrade CD. You'll be offered the
opportunity to delete, create, and format partitions as part of the
installation process. The Upgrade CD checks to see if a qualifying OS
is installed, and, if it finds none, it asks you to insert the
installation media (CD) of that OS. Unfortunately, an OEM
"Recovery/Restore" CD will not work for this purpose; you must have a
true installation CD, complete with the "\Win98" folder and *.cab
files, or the "\i386" folder of WinNT/2K.

(I heard installing on top of an old system is not
a good idea).


No, that's not necessarily the case, at all.

Some people will recommend that you perform a clean installation,
rather than upgrade over an earlier OS. For the most part, I feel
that these people, while well-meaning, are living in the past, and are
basing their recommendation on their experiences with older operating
systems. You'd probably save a lot of time by upgrading your PC to
WinXP, rather than performing a clean installation, if you've no
hardware or software incompatibilities. Microsoft has greatly improved
(over earlier versions of Windows) WinXP's ability to smoothly upgrade
an earlier OS.

WinXP is designed to install and upgrade the existing operating
system while simultaneously preserving your applications and data, and
translating as many personalized settings as possible. The process is
designed to be, and normally is, quite painless. That said, things
can go wrong, in a small number of cases. If your data is at all
important to you, back it up before proceeding.

Certainly, there are times when an in-place upgrade is
contra-indicated:

1) When the underlying hardware isn't certified as being fully
compatible with the newer OS, and/or updated device drivers are not
available from the device's manufacturer. Of course, this condition also
causes problems with clean installations.

2) When the original OS is corrupt, damaged, and/or virus/malware
infested. I've also seen simple, straight-forward upgrades from WinXP
Home to WinXP Pro fail because the computer owner had let the system
become malware-infested. Upgrading over a problematic OS isn't normally
a wise course to establishing a stable installation.

3) When the new OS isn't designed to properly, correctly, and safely
perform an upgrade.

A properly prepared and maintained PC can almost always be
successfully upgraded by a knowledgeable and competent individual. I've
lost count of the systems I've seen that have been upgraded from Win95
to Win98 to Win2K to WinXP (usually with incremental hardware upgrades
over the same time period), without the need for a clean installation,
and that are still operating without any problems attributable to upgrades.

I'm seeing a price of about $185 for XP Pro upgrade.
Will the price come down in the next couple of months?


Unknown. I wouldn't count on it, though.


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Ken Blake, MVP

I currently have a Win 2K Pro system that I had hoped I
wouldn't have to upgrade, but there is a software package
I want to purchase that runs on XP and above.


What package? It's rare that something will run on Windows XP but not
Windows 2000.

So
I have some questions...

Does the "Upgrade" allow me to install from scratch?


The requirement to use an XP upgrade version is to *own* a previous
qualifying version's installation CD, not to have it installed. When setup
doesn't find a previous qualifying version installed, it will prompt you to
insert its CD as proof of ownership. Just insert the previous version's CD,
and follow the prompts. Everything proceeds quite normally and quite
legitimately.

(I heard installing on top of an old system is not
a good idea).



You heard wrong, as far as I'm concerned. Although many people will tell you
that formatting and installing cleanly is the best way to go, I disagree.
Unlike with previous versions of Windows, an upgrade to XP replaces almost
everything, and usually works very well.

My recommendation is to at least try the upgrade, since it's much easier
than a clean installation. You can always change your mind and reinstall
cleanly if problems develop.

However, don't assume that doing an upgrade relieves you of the need to
backup your data, etc. before beginning. Before starting to upgrade, it's
always prudent to recognize that things like a sudden power loss can occur
in the middle of it and cause the loss of everything. For that reason you
should make sure you have backups and anything else you need to reinstall if
the worst happens.

I'm seeing a price of about $185 for XP Pro upgrade.
Will the price come down in the next couple of months?



Sorry, my crystal ball is in the shop for repairs, but considering that
Vista hits the retail shelves today, I wouldn't be surprised to see XP
prices drop.
 
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Bruce said:
Yes, it's quite possible to perform a clean installation using the
WinXP Upgrade CD, provided you have the true installation CD for the
earlier OS.
installation media (CD) of that OS. Unfortunately, an OEM
"Recovery/Restore" CD will not work for this purpose; you must have a
true installation CD, complete with the "\Win98" folder and *.cab
files, or the "\i386" folder of WinNT/2K.

Great! Though it's a Dell "Reinstallation CD", I believe it's
a regular Windows installation disc.
No, that's not necessarily the case, at all.
A properly prepared and maintained PC can almost always be
successfully upgraded by a knowledgeable and competent individual. I've
lost count of the systems I've seen that have been upgraded from Win95
to Win98 to Win2K to WinXP (usually with incremental hardware upgrades
over the same time period), without the need for a clean installation,
and that are still operating without any problems attributable to upgrades.

Good to know...
Unknown. I wouldn't count on it, though.

sigh...


Thanks for the info...
 
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What package? It's rare that something will run on Windows XP but not
Windows 2000.

Adobe Photoshop Lightroom, to be released next month. I was a bit
surprised/disappointed, but Win2K isn't listed on it's list of OS's.
The requirement to use an XP upgrade version is to *own* a previous
qualifying version's installation CD, not to have it installed. When setup
doesn't find a previous qualifying version installed, it will prompt you to
insert its CD as proof of ownership. Just insert the previous version's CD,
and follow the prompts. Everything proceeds quite normally and quite
legitimately.
Great!


My recommendation is to at least try the upgrade, since it's much easier
than a clean installation. You can always change your mind and reinstall
cleanly if problems develop.

True... probably a good methodology...

Thanks for the info...
 
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Ken Blake, MVP

Adobe Photoshop Lightroom, to be released next month. I was a bit
surprised/disappointed, but Win2K isn't listed on it's list of OS's.


Thanks. I didn't know anything about this product, but looking at their web
site, you're clearly right. It not only requires XP, but even XP SP2.

True... probably a good methodology...

Thanks for the info...


You're welcome. Glad to help.
 

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