WIN 98se &XP Home none Dual Boot..?

[Big Bear]

I am getting very confusing comments from some..,


Told I do not need to Run a Dual boot system at all, use a Virtual PC, but the
MS one only runs on XP Pro.

Plus FAT32 told I should be using NTFS file system.


But can Win98se & DOS read and write NTFS Partitions, I have been told that
it can, but that is not what I am reading.

If I can Run Win98se with a Virtual PC, does it need a FAT32 Partition to
run on and can is Read/Write NTFS Files..



Thanks

 

[Michael Stevens]

I am getting very confusing comments from some..,


Told I do not need to Run a Dual boot system at all, use a Virtual
PC, but the MS one only runs on XP Pro.

Plus FAT32 told I should be using NTFS file system.


But can Win98se & DOS read and write NTFS Partitions, I have been
told that it can, but that is not what I am reading.

If I can Run Win98se with a Virtual PC, does it need a FAT32
Partition to run on and can is Read/Write NTFS Files..



Thanks

I am also confused why you want to run a dual boot. Was there another
thread you explained why?
To use Virtual PC, you would need to install XP, so you would be better off
partitioning your hard drive and install XP on the new partition. You will
need third party partitioning software to resize and create the new
partition without losing your data.
If you are dual booting, and you want both XP and 98 to have access to files
across both systems, the use fat 32 on both partitions. If you boot into 98,
if both partitions are fat32 you can read and write to both partitions, if
XP is installed on NTFS, 98 will not see the XP partitions, but XP will have
access to both 98 and XP since XP can read and write to both FAT and NTFS.
98 can only be installed on fat, and it must be installed before XP unless
you use a boot manager like BootIT NG or Boot Magic as two examples.
If XP is installed and you want to use Virtual PC, 98 will default to fat.
The fat file system will be crated in a virtual enviourment and will only be
noticed by XP 98 is running in it's virtual enviourment.
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[Big Bear]

I am also confused why you want to run a dual boot. Was there another
thread you explained why?

Some App's and Games will not Run on XP..

To use Virtual PC, you would need to install XP,

Only works with XP Pro, not Home..

so you would be better off
partitioning your hard drive and install XP on the new partition. You will
need third party partitioning software to resize and create the new
partition without losing your data.
If you are dual booting, and you want both XP and 98 to have access to files
across both systems, the use fat 32 on both partitions. If you boot into 98,
if both partitions are fat32 you can read and write to both partitions, if
XP is installed on NTFS, 98 will not see the XP partitions, but XP will have
access to both 98 and XP since XP can read and write to both FAT and NTFS.
98 can only be installed on fat, and it must be installed before XP unless
you use a boot manager like BootIT NG or Boot Magic as two examples.

If XP is installed and you want to use Virtual PC, 98 will default to fat.
The fat file system will be crated in a virtual enviourment and will only be
noticed by XP 98 is running in it's virtual enviourment.

This is still confusing regarding running WIN98 with a NTFS file system and a
Virtual PC..


Been running a dual boot system for some 6 months or more but resent comments
from others state that you do not need to run a Dual boot system as you can
use a Virtual PC, plus other comments not to use FAT32.

 

[Malke]

Big Bear <[email protected] wrote:

This is still confusing regarding running WIN98 with a NTFS file
system and a Virtual PC..


Been running a dual boot system for some 6 months or more but resent
comments
from others state that you do not need to run a Dual boot system as
you can
use a Virtual PC, plus other comments not to use FAT32.

Perhaps if you explained clearly and concisely in one thread what
exactly you are trying to do, you would get better answers. If you
enjoy playing older games that will not run on XP, there is nothing
wrong with having a dual boot with Win9x/XP. If it is inconvenient to
constantly boot back and forth between XP and Win9x, then get yourself
an older computer and put your Win9x on it and get rid of the dual boot
on the newer computer. You can get an older computer for far less than
what you would pay for the upgrade to WinXP Pro and the cost of
VirtualPC 2004.

Malke

 

[DanS]

Big Bear <[email protected] wrote in

Some App's and Games will not Run on XP..

There is a chance that some may run if you set the compatibility mode of
the program. If you find the .exe file, right-click, click properties. and
there's a 'Compatibility' tab. There you can set the compatibility mode.
This may or may not work with all. I had a program that wouldn't even
install, because the install program detected my PC as an NT based system,
which XP is. I set the compatibility mode of the INSTALL program to WIn98
and it installed fine. It didn't work right, but it did install.

This is still confusing regarding running WIN98 with a NTFS file
system and a Virtual PC..


Been running a dual boot system for some 6 months or more but resent
comments from others state that you do not need to run a Dual boot
system as you can use a Virtual PC, plus other comments not to use
FAT32.

The argument of FAT32 vs. NTFS go way back. Since your in a home
environment, I don't think NTFS is NECESSARY, as the main difference is
file security, on a per file basis, instead of a per drive basis as in
FAT32. I have seen tests reporting that FAT32 is SLIGHTLY faster. On one
side-note, if you'd ever have some catastrophic disk event, which required
data recovery, it seems as though it is easier to recover data from a FAT32
drive than an NTFS drive.

DanS

 

[Sunny]

Big Bear <[email protected] wrote in


There is a chance that some may run if you set the compatibility mode of
the program. If you find the .exe file, right-click, click properties. and
there's a 'Compatibility' tab. There you can set the compatibility mode.
This may or may not work with all. I had a program that wouldn't even
install, because the install program detected my PC as an NT based system,
which XP is. I set the compatibility mode of the INSTALL program to WIn98
and it installed fine. It didn't work right, but it did install.


The argument of FAT32 vs. NTFS go way back. Since your in a home
environment, I don't think NTFS is NECESSARY, as the main difference is
file security, on a per file basis, instead of a per drive basis as in
FAT32. I have seen tests reporting that FAT32 is SLIGHTLY faster. On one
side-note, if you'd ever have some catastrophic disk event, which required
data recovery, it seems as though it is easier to recover data from a
FAT32
drive than an NTFS drive.

FWIW
From all the great advice I have received, and many questions I have asked,
my take is :
For easy home use with a dual boot system, stay with FAT32.
If you are going to have a file larger than 4Gb (Movies etc.) make one of
the WinXP partitions NFTS.
(The Win9x system will not see, or be able to access the NTFS partition)

 

[Big Bear]

Big Bear <[email protected] wrote:



Perhaps if you explained clearly and concisely in one thread what
exactly you are trying to do, you would get better answers. If you
enjoy playing older games that will not run on XP, there is nothing
wrong with having a dual boot with Win9x/XP. If it is inconvenient to
constantly boot back and forth between XP and Win9x, then get yourself
an older computer and put your Win9x on it and get rid of the dual boot
on the newer computer. You can get an older computer for far less than
what you would pay for the upgrade to WinXP Pro and the cost of
VirtualPC 2004.

Malke

Not at all practical and I was told that the Virtual PC was he way to go..

 

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It sounds as if you have a dual boot set up already. If it works for you why change it?

If you go with a Virtual PC it runs in XP and RAM is used by both XP and the virtual machine - hardly beneficial to your gaming. I can tell you (from experience) that even pinball doesn't work well on a VM.

Told by who? Does that person have a VM setup? Try it out on his machine, you have to make the choice, not someone else. After all, it is your machine not theirs!

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[Big Bear]

It sounds as if you have a dual boot set up already. If it works for you why change it?

If you go with a Virtual PC it runs in XP and RAM is used by both XP and the virtual machine - hardly beneficial to your gaming. I can tell you (from experience) that even pinball doesn't work well on a VM.

Told by who? Does that person have a VM setup? Try it out on his machine, you have to make the choice, not someone else. After all, it is your machine not theirs!

A number of Usenet Contacts stated I should not be using a Dual boot system as
a Virtual PC was far better and no need to reboot.

Problem is the MS one only works with XP Pro..

I do have 1 gig of Ram..

 

[Bruce Chambers]

A number of Usenet Contacts stated I should not be using a Dual boot system as
a Virtual PC was far better and no need to reboot.

Granted, there's no need to reboot if you're using Microsoft VirtualPC,
but it's still entirely a matter of personal preference. If *you* are
comfortable dual-booting and the process meets *your* needs, the phrase
"should not" doesn't enter into the discussion. And, of course,
dual-booting saves you the expense of having to buy an additional
software application to accomplish, essentially, what you've already
done. Other, similar products, such as VMWare, cost even more.

Remember, just because someone has figured out how to post to Usenet,
it doesn't mean that necessarily they know, or even care, what is best
for your individual situation.

Problem is the MS one only works with XP Pro..

This sentence makes no sense, I'm afraid. If you're referring to
Microsoft VirtualPC, you're incorrect. Virtual PC 2004 runs on: Windows
2000 Professional, Windows XP Professional, and Windows XP Tablet PC
Edition.



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[Michael Stevens]

A number of Usenet Contacts stated I should not be using a Dual boot
system as a Virtual PC was far better and no need to reboot.

Problem is the MS one only works with XP Pro..

I do have 1 gig of Ram..

I can tell you by experience a VM is not what you want to use for gaming.

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