Win 7 upgrade?

M

mikeyhsd

you should buy it with the desired OS pre-installed.
this insures that all the hardware drivers work correctly.
this you can not be SURE of with an upgrade.

and STAY AWAY from the HOME version.
it is the pits to say the least.

(e-mail address removed)



I am buying a netbook, some come with XP others with Win 7 Starter.
Whichever I buy, I will be upgrading to the Home Win 7 version. Financially
it would be better to go from XP to Win 7. The machines are cheaper as is
the upgrade (I qualify for the $39 educational upgrade from XP or Vista -
not from Win 7 starter). I have heard it is a long hard process to go from
XP to Win 7. Would this still be true if it was on a virtually new machine
with few programs or data installed or would it be adviseable to go from Win
7 Starter to Win 7 Home?

Opinions please.

Thanks in advance... Bob
 
D

David H. Lipman

From: "Bob Newman" <[email protected]>

| The Toshiba was my first choice. I got an Acer with XP just to see if I'd
| like the netbook style. My master plan was to exchange it for the Toshiba,
| that's probably what I'll do. I am having no problem with the small screen
| and will use it with my external monitor & keyboard usually any how.

| Bob

Please fix your PC clock as you have been posting from the future.
 
B

Bob Newman

I am buying a netbook, some come with XP others with Win 7 Starter.
Whichever I buy, I will be upgrading to the Home Win 7 version. Financially
it would be better to go from XP to Win 7. The machines are cheaper as is
the upgrade (I qualify for the $39 educational upgrade from XP or Vista -
not from Win 7 starter). I have heard it is a long hard process to go from
XP to Win 7. Would this still be true if it was on a virtually new machine
with few programs or data installed or would it be adviseable to go from Win
7 Starter to Win 7 Home?

Opinions please.

Thanks in advance... Bob
 
B

Bob Newman

Buying with the desired version is not an option. It is not offered on netbooks. I will have to upgrade from either XP or Win 7 Starter Edition. My question still stands.

Bob
you should buy it with the desired OS pre-installed.
this insures that all the hardware drivers work correctly.
this you can not be SURE of with an upgrade.

and STAY AWAY from the HOME version.
it is the pits to say the least.

(e-mail address removed)



I am buying a netbook, some come with XP others with Win 7 Starter.
Whichever I buy, I will be upgrading to the Home Win 7 version. Financially
it would be better to go from XP to Win 7. The machines are cheaper as is
the upgrade (I qualify for the $39 educational upgrade from XP or Vista -
not from Win 7 starter). I have heard it is a long hard process to go from
XP to Win 7. Would this still be true if it was on a virtually new machine
with few programs or data installed or would it be adviseable to go from Win
7 Starter to Win 7 Home?

Opinions please.

Thanks in advance... Bob
 
B

Bob Newman

Is it okay now? The computer is reading 12:28 PM and that is correct for
Gainesville, FL.

Bob
 
J

John John - MVP

According to your message header you posted at 17:37:29 UTC time.
Florida is in the Eastern time zone and the Standard Eastern time has a
-5hr bias with UTC, which means that your post would have been made at
12:37 (PM) Florida time. According to my newsreader your post is shown
here as posted at 1:29 PM, you're still off by an hour. Verify that you
are in the right time zone and verify that you are using Standard Time
instead of Daylight Saving Time (DST).

John
 
A

ANONYMOUS

Bob,

Everybody, who wants to do a clean install, qualifies for the upgrade
even if they don't have any qualifying products. Win7 upgrade CD will
install without checking whether or not you have any OS installed or
not. In my opinion only the idiots and MVPs will buy the full version
of Win7.

<http://windowssecrets.com/comp/091112#story1>

I hope your problem is solved by this article.

hth
 
A

ANONYMOUS

Daave said:
Looks like there's something wrong on your end, John.
Click to expand...
There is something wrong with all MVPs. They are given the title of
pigs <Most Valuable Pig> for no other reasons. Why did it take you so
long to work it out?
 
M

Marianne

ANONYMOUS said:
Bob,

In my opinion only the idiots and MVPs will buy the full version of Win7.
Click to expand...

Oh hell no! MVPs get free expensive Technet and MSDN subcriptions and they
can download all client and server operating systems and use them as per the
Technet or MSDN subsciption conditions. Why would they pay for what they
get for free?

M
 
J

John John - MVP

My posts are showing on my machine as being posted at the right time, my
last post to Bob was made at 6:33 PM Atlantic Standard Time and
according to my newsreader and to the Google archive that is the time
that the post was made. I'm not sure why you see that I posted at
5:33PM? It is 8:02PM AST as I now hit the send button on this post...

John
 
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Daave

You posted that message at 5:33 PM *EST* (which is where I [and Bob]
live).

Although this most recent post of yours was made 8:02 PM your time
(AST), it is showing up (correctly) in *my* Sent column as 7:02 PM
(EST).

Another way of looking at this:

Your last two posts went out at 2233 hours UTC (Nov. 29) and 0002 hours
UTC (Nov. 30). Since I live in the Eastern Time Zone, they correctly
show up as 5:33 PM and 7:02 PM (both Nov. 29).

Bob had been posting in the future, but he corrected that. His most
recent post was made 1729 UTC (or 12:29 PM EST). In *your* newsreader,
it *should* show up as 1:29 PM AST, correct? Remember that AST and EST
are separated by one hour!

Then again, I noticed a lag between his time and the NNTP time (8
minutes).
 
J

John John - MVP

Ok, I see what you mean Bob posted at 12:28 EST, it was 1:29 AST when he
made the post, there is nothing wrong with his time. I forgot that
there is a one hour difference between our time zones, ...duh!

John
You posted that message at 5:33 PM *EST* (which is where I [and Bob]
live).

Although this most recent post of yours was made 8:02 PM your time
(AST), it is showing up (correctly) in *my* Sent column as 7:02 PM
(EST).

Another way of looking at this:

Your last two posts went out at 2233 hours UTC (Nov. 29) and 0002 hours
UTC (Nov. 30). Since I live in the Eastern Time Zone, they correctly
show up as 5:33 PM and 7:02 PM (both Nov. 29).

Bob had been posting in the future, but he corrected that. His most
recent post was made 1729 UTC (or 12:29 PM EST). In *your* newsreader,
it *should* show up as 1:29 PM AST, correct? Remember that AST and EST
are separated by one hour!

Then again, I noticed a lag between his time and the NNTP time (8
minutes).

My posts are showing on my machine as being posted at the right time,
my last post to Bob was made at 6:33 PM Atlantic Standard Time and
according to my newsreader and to the Google archive that is the time
that the post was made. I'm not sure why you see that I posted at
5:33PM? It is 8:02PM AST as I now hit the send button on this post...

John
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
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Daave

It happens. :)
Ok, I see what you mean Bob posted at 12:28 EST, it was 1:29 AST when
he made the post, there is nothing wrong with his time. I forgot that
there is a one hour difference between our time zones, ...duh!

John
You posted that message at 5:33 PM *EST* (which is where I [and Bob]
live).

Although this most recent post of yours was made 8:02 PM your time
(AST), it is showing up (correctly) in *my* Sent column as 7:02 PM
(EST).

Another way of looking at this:

Your last two posts went out at 2233 hours UTC (Nov. 29) and 0002
hours UTC (Nov. 30). Since I live in the Eastern Time Zone, they
correctly show up as 5:33 PM and 7:02 PM (both Nov. 29).

Bob had been posting in the future, but he corrected that. His most
recent post was made 1729 UTC (or 12:29 PM EST). In *your*
newsreader, it *should* show up as 1:29 PM AST, correct? Remember
that AST and EST are separated by one hour!

Then again, I noticed a lag between his time and the NNTP time (8
minutes).

My posts are showing on my machine as being posted at the right
time, my last post to Bob was made at 6:33 PM Atlantic Standard
Time and according to my newsreader and to the Google archive that
is the time that the post was made. I'm not sure why you see that
I posted at 5:33PM? It is 8:02PM AST as I now hit the send button
on this post... John

Daave wrote:
I'm using Outlook Express as my newsreader. Looking at the Sent
column, Bob's post came in at 12:29 PM and your most recent one
came in at 5:33 PM. Google Groups confirms this:

http://groups.google.com/group/micr...ral/browse_frm/thread/5e614e9aaea058b8?hl=en#

Looks like there's something wrong on your end, John.

John John - MVP wrote:
According to your message header you posted at 17:37:29 UTC time.
Florida is in the Eastern time zone and the Standard Eastern time
has a -5hr bias with UTC, which means that your post would have
been made at 12:37 (PM) Florida time. According to my newsreader
your post is shown here as posted at 1:29 PM, you're still off by
an hour. Verify that you are in the right time zone and verify
that you are using Standard Time instead of Daylight Saving Time
(DST). John

Bob Newman wrote:
Is it okay now? The computer is reading 12:28 PM and that is
correct for Gainesville, FL.

Bob

Please fix your clock, you're posting in the future.

John

Bob Newman wrote:
The Toshiba was my first choice. I got an Acer with XP just to
see if I'd like the netbook style. My master plan was to
exchange it for the Toshiba, that's probably what I'll do. I
am having no problem with the small screen and will use it
with my external monitor & keyboard usually any how.

Bob

message Windows Anytime Upgrade of Starter to Home Premium is $79 from
the Microsoft store. Factor in your $39.00 educational package
and the time and effort to install fresh may cancel out the
$40 price spread.
( or savings ).

I'd probably just get the Netbook with 7 and go with Anytime
Upgrade. I recently bought my wife a new Toshiba NB210 and
it's an excellent netbook. It has the latest Intel Atom
processor and runs 7 Professional. "Bob Newman"
Buying with the desired version is not an option. It is not
offered on netbooks. I will have to upgrade from either XP or
Win 7 Starter Edition. My question still stands.

Bob
you should buy it with the desired OS pre-installed.
this insures that all the hardware drivers work correctly.
this you can not be SURE of with an upgrade.

and STAY AWAY from the HOME version.
it is the pits to say the least.

(e-mail address removed)



I am buying a netbook, some come with XP others with Win 7
Starter. Whichever I buy, I will be upgrading to the Home
Win 7 version. Financially
it would be better to go from XP to Win 7. The machines
are cheaper as is
the upgrade (I qualify for the $39 educational upgrade from
XP or Vista -
not from Win 7 starter). I have heard it is a long hard
process to go from
XP to Win 7. Would this still be true if it was on a
virtually new machine
with few programs or data installed or would it be
adviseable to go from Win
7 Starter to Win 7 Home?

Opinions please.

Thanks in advance... Bob
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
A

ANONYMOUS

John said:
Ok, I see what you mean Bob posted at 12:28 EST, it was 1:29 AST when
he made the post, there is nothing wrong with his time. I forgot that
there is a one hour difference between our time zones, ...duh!
Click to expand...

This idiot still doesn't get it. No matter where you are on this
wonderful planet, your system should be able to adjust for time
difference. If it doesn't, then people posting in Australia will always
be 8 hours ahead of everybody. NOW GO AND GET THE LATEST M$ UPDATE TO
CORRECT FOR TIME DIFFERENCE.
 
J

John John - MVP

ANONYMOUS said:
This idiot still doesn't get it. No matter where you are on this
wonderful planet, your system should be able to adjust for time
difference. If it doesn't, then people posting in Australia will always
be 8 hours ahead of everybody. NOW GO AND GET THE LATEST M$ UPDATE TO
CORRECT FOR TIME DIFFERENCE.
Click to expand...

There is nothing wrong with my computer and your the one who doesn't get
it! The time displayed on your computer is the local time which is
calculated on a UCT bias according to the time zone that you selected
for your computer. When it's 4:00PM in Florida it is 5:00PM where I
live and it is 1:00PM in Vancouver, they're all the same, it's all a
local representation of 21:00 UCT.
 

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