wi-fi

[Nathan]

am thinking of buying a wi-fi laptop and have tiscali broadband at home but
broadband does not have a wireless router. could i still pick up a signal on
a wi-fi laptop or would i need a wireless router or what other options are
available so i dont have to change my broadband. thanks Nathan.

 

[DL]

Many ISP's now supply BB wifi modems as standard, check with Tiscali to see
if they will upgrade your modem. If not buy a new wifi modem

 

[David B.]

He should be buying a wi-fi router, not a modem.

 

[Leonard Grey]

You're both right.

For now, everyone connects to the internet through a wire. It's the
local network that is wireless.

To put a finer point on it: The devices on the network connect
wirelessly to the router. The router connects to the modem with a wire,
and the modem connects to your ISP with a wire.

You can buy what is known as a 'wireless gateway', which combines a
wireless router and a modem in one box. But the wireless/wired
distinction remains.

In the future, we may all connect to the internet wirelessly. But we're
not there yet.

 

[Bob Lucas]

You will find details of a suitable Thomson TG585 ADSL2+ Modem/
802.11g Wireless Router at
www.tiscali.dslshop.co.uk/default.aspx.

The Tiscali router comes with an installation disk, to configure
the modem automatically to work with your account on the Tiscali
network. Alternatively, you can purchase other top-brand-brand
models from many retailers and on-line vendors, which might be
cheaper. Then, you would need to configure the router/modem to
work with the Tiscali broadband network (not too difficult, but
you must ascertain the correct settings).

I assume your desktop computer connects to the Internet via a
wired ADSL modem (Ethernet or USB connection). If your desktop
has wireless connectivity already, it would be possible to create
an Ad-hoc network, which would enable your desktop and laptop to
communicate directly, without the need for a separate router.
The laptop would then be able to access the Internet through a
wireless connection to the Desktop and the wired modem.

That method is possible. Google for Ad Hoc network and see
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/setup/adhoc.mspx.
However, it is far from ideal, because it will only work, when
both computers are switched on. Consequently, a wireless router
is the preferred method.

 

[Jim]

am thinking of buying a wi-fi laptop and have tiscali broadband at home but
broadband does not have a wireless router. could i still pick up a signal on
a wi-fi laptop or would i need a wireless router or what other options are
available so i dont have to change my broadband. thanks Nathan.

You need a wireless router .

 

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[smlunatick]

You will find details of a suitable Thomson TG585 ADSL2+ Modem/
802.11g Wireless Router atwww.tiscali.dslshop.co.uk/default.aspx.

The Tiscali router comes with an installation disk, to configure
the modem automatically to work with your account on the Tiscali
network.  Alternatively,  you can purchase other top-brand-brand
models from many retailers and on-line vendors, which might be
cheaper.  Then, you would need to configure the router/modem to
work with the Tiscali broadband network (not too difficult, but
you must ascertain the correct settings).

I assume your desktop computer connects to the Internet via a
wired ADSL modem (Ethernet or USB connection).  If your desktop
has wireless connectivity already, it would be possible to create
an Ad-hoc network, which would enable your desktop and laptop to
communicate directly, without the need for a separate router.
The laptop would then be able to access the Internet through a
wireless connection to the Desktop and the wired modem.

That method is possible.  Google for Ad Hoc network and seewww.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/setup/adhoc.mspx.
However, it is far from ideal, because it will only work, when
both computers are switched on.  Consequently, a wireless router
is the preferred method.

It seems that having a separate router and a separate broadband modem
the best flexibility. With a combined modem / router unit, if you
decide to change broadband service, update to a different wireless
network signal (change from 11g to 11n) or your ISP change the service
technology, then combined unit will have the be replaced. Most ISP
would sell the combined modem / router units at a higher price than
the standard broadband router.

Also, if your ISP would provide a router/modem, then you will probably
be restricted on the "changes" to settings you can do. A lot of ISPs
lock their "service" unit settings because just one setting can /
will / may affect the service access.

 

[Randall Flagg]

On Mon, 4 May 2009 08:44:12 -0500, BeeCeeBee

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BeeCeeBee is a spammer

 

[Bob Lucas]

It seems that having a separate router and a separate broadband
modem
the best flexibility. With a combined modem / router unit, if
you
decide to change broadband service, update to a different
wireless
network signal (change from 11g to 11n) or your ISP change the
service
technology, then combined unit will have the be replaced. Most
ISP
would sell the combined modem / router units at a higher price
than
the standard broadband router.

Also, if your ISP would provide a router/modem, then you will
probably
be restricted on the "changes" to settings you can do. A lot
of ISPs
lock their "service" unit settings because just one setting can
/
will / may affect the service access.

Yes. Some broadband providers in the UK only supply combined
modem/routers that ARE tied to one service only.

I believe the Sky broadband modem/router is a re-badged Netgear
model, with specially designed firmware. A Sky subscriber must
use the designated hardware for his broadband connection - and if
he/she switches to a different service provider, he will not be
able to configure the modem to work with any other service.

The Thomson TG585 ADSL2+ combined Modem/Router is sold by Tiscali
(UK) - and is supplied free of charge to new subscribers. From
the user's viewpoint, this equipment has the major advantage that
the installation disk will configure the hardware automatically
with the correct settings for the Tiscali network.

This particular modem/router is not tied to one network, so it
can be configured to work with other services. The gateway URL
is 192.162.1.1 and the user must press a button to restore the
factory settings. Then, he can use a web browser to access the
configuration menu at 192.168.1.254. The login name for the
configuration menu is "Administrator". I can't remember whether
the login password field is empty. If not, the password is
printed on the box.

Most other brands of modem/ router should work satisfactorily
with Tiscali broadband. Netgear equipment works OK, but I
couldn't persuade a Buffalo router/modem to work with my
daughter's Tiscali broadband service - although it connects
perfectly to TalkTalk broadband at my home.