Why Microsoft Must abandon Vista

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David

I for one applaud Michael's effort and support the idea of a community
approach to cleaning up the grammar, punctuation, and spelling of
future posters here.
right...you and he are going to "clean up" poster's grammar, etc...sure
thing. Methinks you two are deluded.
 
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The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly

Frank said:
The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'
wrote:

Maybe some of us suffer from dain braimage! :)
Frank

LOL!

Can you tell from my above post that I have been listening to the
politicians go on too much lately?

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Frank

The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'
wrote:
LOL!

Can you tell from my above post that I have been listening to the
politicians go on too much lately?

Actually I've been running my mouth so much lately I can hardly hear
myself speak let anyone else! :)
Frank
 
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MICHAEL

* The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy':
I for one applaud Michael's effort and support the idea of a community
approach to cleaning up the grammar, punctuation, and spelling of future
posters here.

Thank you. I am certainly not a grammar nazi, it's just his post
was so difficult to read. This group has seen several posters with
similar styles, and their posts usually get ignored.


-Michael
 
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Charlie Tame

Stephan said:
Actually he might just simply not know any better, nothing to do with
being able to write or not. I have a friend from Japan that does almost
the exact same thing. While she does a better job at putting things into
Paragraphs, I absolutely can't get her to put spaces behind her periods
and commas.

Judging by his writing, I wouldn't be surprised if his native language is
Asian where things that we take for granted in English don't exist (nor
are needed) in their language. That includes spaces between the words.

I agree though, paragraphs would have made his post more readable. =)


Could have been using Vista speech to text...
 
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Charlie Tame

Lang said:
Inversely... if one says just ONE THING positive about MS, one is labled
an MS Fanboi forever. It goes both ways and it's only the fanatism of
the players, pro or con, that cause the accusations against either side.

Quite boring, actually.

Lang


Not really, there are numerous positive things one can say about MS and
some about Vista but I don't recall being called a fanboy recently :)

What is maybe interesting is that MICHAEL and I have had many
disagreements about many things and there was certainly no collaboration
in forming opinions of Vista - in fact MICHAEL has some months
seniority with the OS over me...

Yet we have come to the same conclusions about both the OS and the
attitudes and regular contributors here.

We both would prefer to see MS take a different route it seems, and yet
would also like to see the Linux community and others do well. Both
communities have huge potential to innovate, and innovation frequently
comes from rivalry. We put men on the moon as a result of competition,
when US Vs USSR competition waned progress in space stalled.

However MS and their customers both stand to lose a lot and if MS is the
only game in town there's no safety net.

So yes I can be sarcastic as hell about their mistakes, too right, it's
too important to pretend they have made none, but usually I try to be
constructive about my criticisms.

You cannot expect users to come here all prepared and all knowing, damn,
if they were they'd have no need of the place, but when it comes down to
MS paying customers being made to feel stupid by people they unknowingly
believe to be IT "Professionals" then you bet I'll react. We WERE all
there one time...

So your point is taken, but filter out the extremes and the rest just
drifts by unnoticed :)
 
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Charlie Tame

John_T said:
Well, from my observation of MS, innovation has become supplanted with a
corporate culture that appears to be mainly preoccupied with the
superficial Graphic User Interface and market domination. The Operating
System seems to have become secondary.

An analogy might be that when pretty faces without much behind them
begin to dominate a corporate structure, you know the company is losing
its focus and sense of priorities, and without fresh insights into user
needs and desires, thinking inside the company becomes incestuous and
self-centered. ...seems to be the trend in many major companies.
:rolleyes:


Quite so, and you could replace MS with quite a number of companies or
even cultures and still be on the money :)
 
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Lang Murphy

Charlie Tame said:
Not really, there are numerous positive things one can say about MS and
some about Vista but I don't recall being called a fanboy recently :)

What is maybe interesting is that MICHAEL and I have had many
disagreements about many things and there was certainly no collaboration
in forming opinions of Vista - in fact MICHAEL has some months seniority
with the OS over me...

Yet we have come to the same conclusions about both the OS and the
attitudes and regular contributors here.

We both would prefer to see MS take a different route it seems, and yet
would also like to see the Linux community and others do well. Both
communities have huge potential to innovate, and innovation frequently
comes from rivalry. We put men on the moon as a result of competition,
when US Vs USSR competition waned progress in space stalled.

However MS and their customers both stand to lose a lot and if MS is the
only game in town there's no safety net.

So yes I can be sarcastic as hell about their mistakes, too right, it's
too important to pretend they have made none, but usually I try to be
constructive about my criticisms.

You cannot expect users to come here all prepared and all knowing, damn,
if they were they'd have no need of the place, but when it comes down to
MS paying customers being made to feel stupid by people they unknowingly
believe to be IT "Professionals" then you bet I'll react. We WERE all
there one time...

So your point is taken, but filter out the extremes and the rest just
drifts by unnoticed :)


Well... sure, insults, pro or con, MS or Vista or Ubuntu or whatever, are
uncalled for. No doubt. That's my major beef with the anti-MS/Vista crowd in
this ng. Regardless of the opinions of the members of that group, I am not
now, nor ever have been an MS or Vista fanboi. But because I have not had
any major problems with Vista, and have stated such, I am so labled. Har.
Like I care.

I recently, like last week, made the very same point you do in the last
sentence of your second to last paragraph. I freely admit that I am
sometimes almost shocked by some of the queries in this ng; that said, my
first attempt is always with a straight face. And I never fire the first
derisive bullet. Never.

So... I think we're on the same page there.

Lang
 
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Lang Murphy

MICHAEL said:
* Lang Murphy:

Well, I go by what people post, and I can certainly spot those who
consistently attack the user and refuse to hold Microsoft accountable
for anything. You're right, it is quite boring.


-Michael


And one must watch out for those that consistently attack the vendor or the
product and refuse to hold the user accountable.

Lang
 

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