Why do you feel the need for Vista

R

RoadRunner

Hi ... I'm curious to know as to why you would feel the need to have Vista
when it becomes available ? Also whats so bad with the OS you have now ?

Thanks
 
S

Saucy

I don't, except as a business opportunity. The OS I use now is better than
what Vista is currently shaped up to be - if one believes the newsgroup
posts and press reports.
 
W

William

Which OS is that?
I don't, except as a business opportunity. The OS I use now is better than
what Vista is currently shaped up to be - if one believes the newsgroup
posts and press reports.
 
K

Kerry Brown

Vista has better security. I like Aero Glass and the UI in general. I like
the Media Center. I like the DVD Maker. I really like the Search. The
programs I use the most, Expression Web Design and Office 2007, work better
in Vista.

As for what's bad with the current OS's I'm using. Linux can be very hard to
configure new hardware and add new programs. With XP I have to run as an
administrator which is very insecure.

Given all that the number one reason I'll put the RTM version on my everyday
machine is because I like having the newest stuff. For most people I
wouldn't recommend upgrading an existing system. I would recommend that
anyone purchasing a new system seriously consider Vista.
 
M

Mark D. VandenBerg

RoadRunner said:
Hi ... I'm curious to know as to why you would feel the need to have Vista
when it becomes available ? Also whats so bad with the OS you have now ?

Thanks

I certainly don't need Vista. In fact, several programs I rely upon for
recording and manipulating test results from various instruments are old DOS
programs and will not even install into Vista.

But I still will purchase a copy of Vista and dual-boot it, just because I
like to have the latest thing.
 
W

William

I like the way Vista runs and looks. I like the Media Center and the new
system utilities. I have two computers that I regularly use, the main
one will be upgraded to Vista, but the AMD-900 will remain as an XP
computer. I admit that I do not have a pressing need to do the upgrade
and could do just fine with having XP on both, but it is a matter of choice.

William
 
X

xfile

Being a computer enthusiast - simply because of it's NEW :)

Being a big (or old) boy - simply because it's a TOY :)

Being a rational buyer - still thinking

Being a decision maker for IT - still working very hard for the
justifications.
 
Y

Yoshi

Honestly, plug and play is much better. Vista seems much faster than XP on
my laptop (it's more reponsive and loads apps quicker).

Of course, security is much better overall. Look at all the security
companies. It's so secure, they are having problems developing anti-virus
software for Vista. =0} They are crying right now. If McAffee and Symantec
don't get their act together, they are going to lose serious market share to
OnceCare. NOT BECAUSE OF PATCH GUARD EITHER!

I've been running RC 2 since release and it's been running great. You would
never know this was a beta OS. I know some others have had their problems
but for me, it's been great.
 
B

BChat

I don't need Vista, XP Home does all I'll ever need to do.
BUT - I intend to get Vista Home Premium because I like it.

BChat

Hi ... I'm curious to know as to why you would feel the need to have Vista
when it becomes available ? Also whats so bad with the OS you have now ?

Thanks
 
Q

Quanta

Does the media center run Media Center Receiver Service and use 50% of Core
2 duo while idle?
 
K

Kevin Young

I'm on the fence at this point in terms of upgrading to Vista. We have
6 PC's in the household all running primarily XP SP2 at this point. I
have been running dual boot with XP and Vista\Linux and also running
Vista and Linux in VMWare on XP.

To be totally honest I am tired of Activation, Phone Home technologies
and MS EULA's. All of my equipment is running nothing but legal bought
and paid for software and I honestly feel that these policies are
invasive to legitimate customers. I understand MS's desire to stop
piracy of their products but perhaps they should focus on prosecuting
pirates rather than adversely affecting their customer base.

I have been investigating open source software alternatives on both the
Windows XP and Linux platforms as well as trying out Vista Beta 2, RC1
and RC2. FireFox 2 has now become my default browser and with the IE
Tab add-in when running under Windows I no longer have a need to run IE
directly. I have started working with Thunderbird rather than Outlook
or Outlook Express at home. I may have to adjust the fonts though as at
this point I've been finding Thunderbird text tougher to read than text
in Outlook or Outlook Express. I have just installed Open Office and
while I've opened several existing Word documents that looked identical
to when they were opened in Word, I haven't used it enough to judge
whether I will switch over to it.

In terms of Linux - there is a lot I like including security, free
distributions, absence of activation, no phone home, etc. Wealth of
open source included with purchased distributions. To date I have tried
Suse 9.3, Linspire 5.0 and I have a copy of Novell Suse Linux Enterprise
Desktop 10 on order. The only complaint I have about Linux is the
complexity involved with installing drivers or programs not included
with a distribution. Linspire has a great work around for applications
if they are included in their online warehouse but the fit and finish of
Linspire isn't quite as good as Suse in my opinion. I'm sure with some
effort I could learn how to install stuff not included with a
distribution but it does seems like an added headache I don't need. If
I wasn't the type to constantly tinker with new applications and the
sort Linux could meet all my needs and likely the needs for 3 or 4 of
the 6 computers in the household. I guess if I was willing to hold off
tinkering until a new distribution arrived that would be another way
around the one drawback I could see.

Vista has some neat features and while I had varying success with the
different versions on different equipment when it really comes down to
it there seems to be nothing that I need or use presently that makes
Vista a must have. I do not like the constant security prompts. I
don't like the fact that I will need to upgrade several programs
(Partition Managers, Internet Security Suite, Defragmenter, etc) that
work fine with XP. Aero is fine but not essential. At this point I
don't see the benefit given the cost to upgrade.

XP SP2 is meeting our needs presently but MS will eventually end support
for it and new software down the road a few years may only work with
Vista. Perhaps for now we'll stick with XP and Open Source alternatives
but I haven't yet ruled out a switch to Linux or to Vista for that
matter.
 
A

Alexander Suhovey

RoadRunner said:
Hi ... I'm curious to know as to why you would feel the need to have Vista
when it becomes available ? Also whats so bad with the OS you have now ?

Thanks

I could start enumerating all the new features and enhancements in existing
ones; post links to technical and consumer documents on this subject; argue
Vista is huge step forward in so many ways reliability- security- and
performance-wise, as I did several times already in this NG.

But I'll give you a simple reason:

When I first installed Vista (was some early beta) on my home computer side
by side with my main OS - XP SP2, I've spend probably 10% of time using it
compared to main OS. When RC1 and then 2 came out (thanks this NG I was
lucky to notice it timely), after I've installed it, I never booted to my XP
again.

When I realised I need more space for TV recordings, I dumped XP partition
without any regret. Thanks Vista it was easy thing to do - resizing
partitions in Vista is non-destructive and on the fly operation.

And I never looked back. I guess I'm hooked. Now, how's that for a reason
LOL?


--
Alexander Suhovey


P.S. Note that I don't even have Aero Glass on my home computer.
P.P.S. Of course at work my standard is still XP SP2/Windows 2003 and
probably it will be that way for quite some time to come.
 
F

Frank

RoadRunner said:
Hi ... I'm curious to know as to why you would feel the need to have Vista
when it becomes available ? Also whats so bad with the OS you have now ?

Thanks
Need? Nobody "needs" Vista. Hell all you really "need" in life is a
spear, a cave, fire and a women. Everything else falls under the label
of "want".
And yes, I want my Vista!
Frank
 
A

Alexander Suhovey

Frank said:
Need? Nobody "needs" Vista. Hell all you really "need" in life is a spear,
a cave, fire and a women. Everything else falls under the label of "want".
And yes, I want my Vista!
Frank

That's a good one.

I think however that Vista is a sharper spear than XP...
 
S

skon

in Outlook or Outlook Express. I have just installed Open Office and
while I've opened several existing Word documents that looked identical to
when they were opened in Word, I haven't used it enough to judge whether I
will switch over to it.
</snip>


Regarding Open Office. I put it on freinds system without telling him,
changed the name on the shortcut for the word processer to Word and changed
the icon. (He is a writer and only uses his computer for MS Word) He didn't
even notice it for 3 weeks and he uses it every day. The reason I did this
was he was saying he wanted to upgrade to the newist version of MS Office. I
asked him why he would spend so much for upgrades so often and he couldn't
give a good reason. We talked a while about Open Office and he thought he
just couldn't learn another 'new' program. He's a little stubborn that way
and not real tech savvy. He has me run scan disk and defrag etc on his
system because he never can remember where to find them. (He's still on
Win98) So the next time I did that for him I swapped Open Office for MS
Office on him while he was out working on his car.

After he figgered it out (3 weeks! I still have a hard time understanding
why he didn't notice it sooner?) and called me, he was not to upset and has
decided to keep on using it from now on. He figgures he will keep getting
there newer versions as they come out and will save money insted of spending
whatever it cost's now to upgrade MS Office each time.

Regards,
Skon
 
S

skon

That's a good one.

I think however that Vista is a sharper spear than XP...
</snip>

Nah..... not sharper. Me think just shinier! Me go back to cave now and
sleep.

Regards,
Skon
 
A

AJD

My only reason is to have faster system.
My old Windows 98 is youst too slow.
If buy... buy the most recend system :)
 
G

Guest

Hi ... I'm curious to know as to why you would feel the need to have VistaThere's nothing really wrong with XP but it paled in comparison to the way
all of our pc's are running in Vista. I'm running RC1 32-bit, RC1 64-bit,
and RC2 32-bit on 10 pcs right now and I'm impressed with the difference.
But maybe that's because I've not tweaked XP to where it could be.

I've also let a few geeky friends try it and they don't want to go back to
XP and have said they will be buying it as soon as it's available.

But scouring all the vista sites has also tweaked my interest in linux and
I've downloaded and installed ubuntu and mandriva in a couple of pc's in
dual-boot and I like them too.

I posted on another site that I'll probably buy after a service pack release
but maybe I'll spring for it if the deal is good enough.
 
Q

Quanta

skon said:
</snip>


Regarding Open Office. I put it on freinds system without telling him,
changed the name on the shortcut for the word processer to Word and
changed the icon. (He is a writer and only uses his computer for MS Word)
He didn't even notice it for 3 weeks and he uses it every day. The reason
I did this was he was saying he wanted to upgrade to the newist version of
MS Office. I asked him why he would spend so much for upgrades so often
and he couldn't give a good reason. We talked a while about Open Office
and he thought he just couldn't learn another 'new' program. He's a little
stubborn that way and not real tech savvy. He has me run scan disk and
defrag etc on his system because he never can remember where to find them.
(He's still on Win98) So the next time I did that for him I swapped Open
Office for MS Office on him while he was out working on his car.

After he figgered it out (3 weeks! I still have a hard time understanding
why he didn't notice it sooner?) and called me, he was not to upset and
has decided to keep on using it from now on. He figgures he will keep
getting there newer versions as they come out and will save money insted
of spending whatever it cost's now to upgrade MS Office each time.

Regards,
Skon

The Powerpoint type app is terrible....it will crash if you use anything
complex like video or animations.
 

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