Which inkjet manufacturers printers cause the least hassle when using non-OEM cartridges - UK buyer

[TJ]

Linux has more printer problems than you think! Several of the Host
only style printers would not be used. As with any printer install /
usage problem, always look for the correct updated drivers from the
manufacturer's support web site(s).

I have to admit, some manufacturers do a better job of supporting Linux
than others. My own experience is mostly limited to HP printers, which
are among those that are best-supported. Still, if I were to pay some
$200 for an OS, I'd expect it to "just work."

TJ

 

[Burt]

Thanks for the advice Burt. We'll try that later tonight when I call him.
The aspect of disabling the print spooler was in the reference I mentioned
I think. But this is something I'm not familiar with. I recall this
involved using the Run command in the Start menu? Could you clarify
please?


I learnt that a few days after I started following this newsgroup about a
year ago.

In XP you go to the printer settings, open that printer's dialogue box,
click on properties and on the advanced tab page check print directly to
printer. The default is to print through the spooler and begin printing as
soon as the print job begins to go to the spooler. This frees up the
computer to move on to the next task. Otherwise, you are delayed by the
slower printer throughput. I tried every trick that Canon tech support had
to offer, plus a fairly long dialogue with a very knowledgeable guy on the
XP-printer/fax NG - all to no avail. My laser printer worked just fine with
the spooler. My guess is that there was a glitch in the spooler file. I
should have probably deleted the spooler and reinstalled it from the XP disk
(or my wife's computer). My problem occurred with a computer that I'd used
for three or four years, so a glitchy file is not unexpected. A new
computer with Vista shouldn't (wishful thinking) give this sort of problem!

 

[Colin Reddish]

In XP you go to the printer settings, open that printer's dialogue box,
click on properties and on the advanced tab page check print directly to
printer. The default is to print through the spooler and begin printing
as soon as the print job begins to go to the spooler. This frees up the
computer to move on to the next task. Otherwise, you are delayed by the
slower printer throughput. I tried every trick that Canon tech support
had to offer, plus a fairly long dialogue with a very knowledgeable guy on
the XP-printer/fax NG - all to no avail. My laser printer worked just
fine with the spooler. My guess is that there was a glitch in the spooler
file. I should have probably deleted the spooler and reinstalled it from
the XP disk (or my wife's computer). My problem occurred with a computer
that I'd used for three or four years, so a glitchy file is not
unexpected. A new computer with Vista shouldn't (wishful thinking) give
this sort of problem!

Thanks Burt,

I'll try that with my brother tomorrow. It is a Vista operating system on
his computer which is having the problem. I'm on XP which makes comunication
difficult. Hopefully we will be able to identify similar options to what you
describe on Vista.

 

[Arthur Entlich]

If you don't get anywhere meaningful let me know via this list (until my
email situation is resolved) and I will pass this on to the MS Vista
printer driver team for comment.

Art

 

[Colin Reddish]

If you don't get anywhere meaningful let me know via this list (until my
email situation is resolved) and I will pass this on to the MS Vista
printer driver team for comment.

Thanks for the offer Art, but fortunately there appears to have been a happy
ending to this saga.

We followed Burts advice and disabled spooling but this did not improve
matters. Attempting to print by thus sending the printer info directly to
the printer failed and simply locked up the printer. In the meantime the
replacement Canon iP4300 arrived and shortly after installing that (which
works great), Vista spontaneously displayed a banner to the effect that
Vista had "successfully installed the drivers for the Epson". The Epson now
works as before. So it appears that the re-install had failed a week or so
before but had for some odd reason eventually completed. The only (unlikely)
reasons we can think of is that there was some automatic Windows Updates
installed shortly before the original problem had occurred which caused the
problem and this was cleared by some further updates, or maybe the Canon
installation corrected some corrupted files somewhere?

Anyway thanks all for the advice.

 

[thoss]

At 20:07:43 on Wed, 5 Mar 2008 Colin Reddish opined:-

I learnt that a few days after I started following this newsgroup about
a year ago.

The best thing you can do is to kill-file him. Most of us have done
this long ago.

 

[measekite]

thoss wrote:

At 20:07:43 on Wed, 5 Mar 2008 Colin Reddish opined:-



By the way, you've now learned that our resident troll, Measekite, is the foremost worldwide purveyer of misinformation.



I learnt that a few days after I started following this newsgroup about a year ago.





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Funny thing people who do not agree with an opinion say they are giving misinformation contrary to what people say who do agree.

For example.

Humans came from monkeys.  Yes there is a monkey in your family tree.
The earth is billions of years old contrary to what some people profess.
Evolution is real.  You can photograph it and print the images on your favorite printer and paper.
There may or may not be a God as some people profess.  The only truth is to say you do not know (the facts) for sure but may believe or not believe.  Anyone who says otherwise is a liar since they have never seen the entity.
Organized religion can be evil and for sure it has been used for evil purposes for centuries.  Just look around you today and read history.

Well I say OEM ink is the best.  It also costs more.  Most everybody should use OEM ink. 

However their are a few exceptions.  If one has a very heavy printload the propensity for clogging is reduced from the average and if what you are printing is such where is are willing to accept lower qualtiy and possible an increased propensity for fading then it makes sense to find (the hard part) the best of the junk inks and use it and not spend the extra money.  If the printer will last 3 sets of ink exchanges you break even and if more you are a head of the game.  But do not say you saved money since you spent less and got less.  You only save money if you needed an item and bought it for a lower amount from one source than from another.

For example if you wanted to get a Canon Digital Rebel and is costs $800 for a local camera store (USA Warranty Model) and you find the same model online no tax with shipping for $650 then the amount less that you spent ($150) can be considered a savings.

Now there are some idiots who disagree with me.  They are not idiots for having a different opinion but they are idiots who claim that is misinformation.

 

[Frank]

measekite wrote:

....some of the most incoherent, ignorant bullshit yet!
Get some help you whacked out lying freak!
Frank

 

[Richard Steinfeld]

At 20:07:43 on Wed, 5 Mar 2008 Colin Reddish opined:-


The best thing you can do is to kill-file him. Most of us have done
this long ago.

And don't forget to kill Frank, too.

Richard