which Asus P5K motherboard ?

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Talal Itani

I need to buy an Asus motherboard for a new PC. P5K seems to be a good
choice, yet there are so many variations of this motherboard. Some have
small heat sinks, some have elaborate heat sinks. Please give me some
advise on how to narrow things down. Thanks.
 
F

F r e e

Talal Itani said:
I need to buy an Asus motherboard for a new PC. P5K seems to be a good
choice, yet there are so many variations of this motherboard. Some have
small heat sinks, some have elaborate heat sinks. Please give me some
advise on how to narrow things down. Thanks.

i'm in the same 'crysis' :)
and dont know if to buy or wait for nehalim :)
 
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Paul

Talal said:
I need to buy an Asus motherboard for a new PC. P5K seems to be a good
choice, yet there are so many variations of this motherboard. Some have
small heat sinks, some have elaborate heat sinks. Please give me some
advise on how to narrow things down. Thanks.

There is a comparison tool here. It works best in Internet Explorer.
I've had trouble in the past with Firefox.

http://www.asus.com/products_compare.aspx

It gives you a comparison chart like this. The formatting of the
information is not the best, and in fact, when the marketing department
entered the information for some motherboards, the tables were not
complete.

http://www.asus.com/products_compare_show.aspx?array_model=1637,1646,1749,1921,1705&l1=3

To select a motherboard, you can start with the "must have" criterion.
For example, only a workstation class board, will have a PCI-X slot
for older RAID controller cards. The desktop boards will have PCI Express
video card slots, PCI Express x1 slots for add in cards, and the older
vanilla PCI slots.

Some motherboards have DDR3 memory slots, and some are DDR2. DDR2 is
currently the cheapest memory type.

None of the P5K boards support SLI, due to the restrictions of the
Nvidia SLI drivers. The boards may support Crossfire (if they have
two video slots). The P35 doesn't have enough PCI Express lanes to
do the job properly, but some boards may do a better job of splitting
the lanes than others.

As the price goes up, you might get the odd extra peripheral chip,
such as an extra LAN controller, a Firewire port and so on.

The Southbridge chip used, could offer four or six ports. The six
port chip supports various software RAID modes. The four port does
not. The four port may not support AHCI either (adds hotplug support
as a feature as far as I know).

Once you narrow down the feature set a bit, the comparison chart
will show you that some boards have more overclocking features
(finer adjustments) than others.

Something which is not documented in the Asus charts, is how many
phases are used to power the processor. The rules are a bit
fluid, because a three phase regulator with large phases, may be
able to match an eight phase regulator with small phases. You may
see larger toroids, heavier wire, bigger MOSFETS or more of them,
as a sign that the phases are more powerful. The CPUSupport chart
on the Asus site, should also be checked for signs that high power
processors are supported.

For example, if I look at this one ($179), I see eight small black
squares, which are the coils. There is a ninth cylindrical coil,
which is the filter on entry. (One input filter, eight output filters
if you will.) The phases are small, but generally, seeing eight phases,
implies a decent power handling capability.

http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/productimage/13-131-182-04.jpg

I cannot select the motherboard for you, because I don't know what
you want.

When you think you've identified a board you want, check the Newegg
customer reviews, for comments on stability and whether the motherboard
was delivered non-functional. The vip.asus.com forums can also help
with comments.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16813131182
http://vip.asus.com/forum/topic.aspx?board_id=1&model=P5K+Deluxe/WiFi-AP&SLanguage=en-us

Paul
 
G

Gurney

I need to buy an Asus motherboard for a new PC. P5K seems to be a good
choice, yet there are so many variations of this motherboard. Some have
small heat sinks, some have elaborate heat sinks. Please give me some
advise on how to narrow things down. Thanks.
Why ask HERE? What does this have to do with the OS? NOTHING.

Ask elsewhere
 
M

~misfit~

Somewhere on teh intarweb "Natéag" typed:
De Luxe or Premium work well.

The P5K-E ( and /WiFi-AP versions of the above boards) is fine too. They're
all made on the same PCB anyway and have an 8-phase CPU VRM. They differ on
feature-set and cooling solutions for NB, SB and VRMs.

The plain P5K is crappier, only has a 3-phase VRM and is less stable.
Fully Vista compatible.

Ha! Vista will never be install on a machine I own, I can assure you of
that.
--
Shaun.

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~misfit~

Somewhere on teh intarweb "Talal Itani" typed:
I need to buy an Asus motherboard for a new PC. P5K seems to be a
good choice, yet there are so many variations of this motherboard. Some
have small heat sinks, some have elaborate heat sinks. Please
give me some advise on how to narrow things down. Thanks.

Ehhh, instead of my other reply I should have just given you the review i
read before buying my P5K-E:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mainboards/display/asus-p5k_2.html
--
Shaun.

DISCLAIMER: If you find a posting or message from me
offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it.
If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to
me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... ;-)
 
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AS

O/H Talal Itani Ýãñáøå:
I need to buy an Asus motherboard for a new PC. P5K seems to be a good
choice, yet there are so many variations of this motherboard. Some have
small heat sinks, some have elaborate heat sinks. Please give me some
advise on how to narrow things down. Thanks.
Well,i have 3 (pro-deluxe-premium).If you can wait a few weeks go for
the new p5q series based on p45.If not,just avoid the P5K-SE/P5K
models.The P5K-C can use ddr2 or ddr3 ram but generally is not
recommended.If you have a small case you could go for P5K-pro which
measures 30.5x21.8 a little narrower from the full atx spec 30.5x24.5.A
good very stable board.The best choices are P5K-E wifi and P5K-Premium
wifi(especially if you plan to overclock).Prices are way down and the
price difference is small(i can find "E" for 116 euro and premium for
136 euro).As for the deluxe:i think that asus decided to replace this
model with premium because it's a rare find nowadays.Last there is the
P5K3 deluxe which uses ddr3 but ihmo if you want ddr3 your best bet is
X38 Chipset.
 
M

~misfit~

Somewhere on teh intarweb "AS" typed:
O/H Talal Itani Ýãñáøå:
Well,i have 3 (pro-deluxe-premium).If you can wait a few weeks go for
the new p5q series based on p45.If not,just avoid the P5K-SE/P5K
models.The P5K-C can use ddr2 or ddr3 ram but generally is not
recommended.If you have a small case you could go for P5K-pro which
measures 30.5x21.8 a little narrower from the full atx spec
30.5x24.5.A good very stable board.The best choices are P5K-E wifi
and P5K-Premium wifi(especially if you plan to overclock).Prices are
way down and the price difference is small(i can find "E" for 116
euro and premium for 136 euro).As for the deluxe:i think that asus
decided to replace this model with premium because it's a rare find
nowadays.Last there is the P5K3 deluxe which uses ddr3 but ihmo if
you want ddr3 your best bet is X38 Chipset.

Yeah, *exactly* what AS said. ;-)
--
Shaun.

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offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it.
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Talal Itani

What will I gain from the p5q? I will not buy memory beyond DDR 800, and my
CPU will have FSB at 1333. Is there anything beyond that?
 
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AS

O/H Talal Itani Ýãñáøå:
What will I gain from the p5q? I will not buy memory beyond DDR 800, and my
CPU will have FSB at 1333. Is there anything beyond that?
Lower power consumption.Pcie 2.0 compliance.If you want crossfire p45
will configure the ports for 1x16 or 2x8 operation unlike p35 which
configures the 2nd pcie port for 4x.Maybe better overclocking?
 
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Anssi Saari

AS said:
O/H Talal Itani Ýãñáøå:
Lower power consumption.Pcie 2.0 compliance.If you want crossfire p45
will configure the ports for 1x16 or 2x8 operation unlike p35 which
configures the 2nd pcie port for 4x.Maybe better overclocking?

Thanks for the advice from me too. I was thinking of getting a P5K SE
since it has spdif and esata connectors in backplane which I need in
any case, but if it's not a very good board... I just had my old
K8V-XE go bad, but thankfully I had bought a spare S754 board with
this in mind, a K8N4-E Deluxe. Just hanging on to my very low power
and quiet Turion system for a while longer... Well, it might become my
HTPC.

Anyways, I suppose I'll be looking at the P5K Pro version at a minimum
or perhaps the new PSQ Deluxe, since it has Express Gate SSD.
 
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House Of The White Rose

007 said:
Just stay away from plain P5K. Too many problems, no support for AHCI.

WTF are you talking about? Been running basic P5K for a long time now with
zero issues. And Asus has an AHCI driver for it on their website so I have
to say double WTF? I even instaled Vista64 on it with 4GB ram installed
just a few days ago and had zero issues.
 
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House Of The White Rose

De Luxe or Premium work well.
Fully Vista compatible.

So is basic and it's a hell of lot less money to spend for a mb that has
features 98% of us don't need or want.
 
H

House Of The White Rose

The plain P5K is crappier, only has a 3-phase VRM and is less stable.

My P5K is running 100% stable with an overclcocked C2D cpu and using
Vista64 too! Another WTF?! You guys should just STFU if you don't actually
own the product you are lambasting.
 
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House Of The White Rose

Got one here, works fine with XP and Vista, and we don't need AHCI

If it doesn't support AHCI then why did I install an AHCI driver for it on
Vista64 just three days ago? Asus provides an AHCI driver for the P5K basic
in their downloads section.
 
H

House Of The White Rose

I need to buy an Asus motherboard for a new PC. P5K seems to be a good
choice, yet there are so many variations of this motherboard. Some have
small heat sinks, some have elaborate heat sinks. Please give me some
advise on how to narrow things down. Thanks.

If you want to save a few bucks then just get the P5K basic and ignore the
misguided advice you have been given. It is 100% stable for me and that is
with overclocking too on Vista64. Just make sure to update the bios to the
latest before installing the OS and you will be good to go and save $100.00
in the process.
 
M

~misfit~

Somewhere on teh intarweb "House Of The White Rose" typed:
My P5K is running 100% stable with an overclcocked C2D cpu and using
Vista64 too! Another WTF?! You guys should just STFU if you don't
actually own the product you are lambasting.

Wow! I see lots of posts by you trying to make yourself feel better about
having a shitty motherboard.

I don't need to buy every POS to know that it's a POS. I did my homework,
read the reviews, then bought a P5K-E WiFi/AP.

I *do* own the product that I'm praising. Unless you own both you're guilty
of the same bias you claim "we" are. I too have an overclocked C2D in it. An
E4500 (stock 2.2GHz) running rock-solid at 3.3GHz on air. What's your
overclock? If it's significant then your board will probably not last many
years, that 3-phase VRM stage just isn't built for long-term high current.
I'm getting an E8400 soon, that'll be fun, having such a stable board with
an 8-phase VRM to work with.

Condolences on Vista. Oh, you're probably in the 'consumer' class of user.
Uninformed and actually believing you have a good OS. LOL.
--
Shaun.

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offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it.
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me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... ;-)
 

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