Where is XP SP3 ? What a bunch of crap !

[SAM-R]

Vista is RTM. Server 2003 SP2 is at RC1 Refresh build 2845, almost out the
door. As soon as Server 2003 SP2 is done, there is no excuse not to start
work on XP SP3. XP SP3 should start with the 5.2 NT Kernel from Server 2003
SP2. Waiting until 2008 is a bunch of crap. It's been almost 2 1/2 years now
since XP SP2.
Watch us get screwed like Win 2000 did when SP5 was canceled and MS did a
Rollup instead.
Move on to Vista, XP is dead.

 

[Alias]

Vista is RTM. Server 2003 SP2 is at RC1 Refresh build 2845, almost out the
door. As soon as Server 2003 SP2 is done, there is no excuse not to start
work on XP SP3. XP SP3 should start with the 5.2 NT Kernel from Server 2003
SP2. Waiting until 2008 is a bunch of crap. It's been almost 2 1/2 years now
since XP SP2.
Watch us get screwed like Win 2000 did when SP5 was canceled and MS did a
Rollup instead.
Move on to Vista, XP is dead.

XP is not "dead". It works just fine, thank you very much. You might
want to check your sources as XP now is being sold with SP2B. Oops.

What is dead before it got out of the starting gate is Hasta La Vista.
It will be the end of Microsoft's operating systems that assume the
paying customer is a thief. It won't take too many times that the kill
switch falsely kicks in to wake the general public up to the disdain
that Microsoft holds for their paying customers.

Alias

 

[Mike Cawood, HND BIT]

Vista is RTM. Server 2003 SP2 is at RC1 Refresh build 2845, almost out the
door. As soon as Server 2003 SP2 is done, there is no excuse not to start
work on XP SP3. XP SP3 should start with the 5.2 NT Kernel from Server
2003 SP2. Waiting until 2008 is a bunch of crap. It's been almost 2 1/2
years now since XP SP2.
Watch us get screwed like Win 2000 did when SP5 was canceled and MS did a
Rollup instead.
Move on to Vista, XP is dead.

My XP SP2 still does what it says on the packet!
I won't be moving to Vista until I need to buy a new computer, which won't
happen for a long time as this was bought last May!
There's more to life than software version numbers!
Regards Mike.

 

[Roy Coorne]

SAM-R warned us:

Vista is RTM. Server 2003 SP2 is at RC1 Refresh build 2845, almost out the
door. As soon as Server 2003 SP2 is done, there is no excuse not to start
work on XP SP3. XP SP3 should start with the 5.2 NT Kernel from Server 2003
SP2. Waiting until 2008 is a bunch of crap. It's been almost 2 1/2 years now
since XP SP2.

But there has been a long sequence of updates and hotfixes in between.

Watch us get screwed like Win 2000 did when SP5 was canceled and MS did a
Rollup instead.

There are precise lifecycle promises:

Move on to Vista, XP is dead.

XP SP2 lives! And has to survive at least until Vista SP1 is on the
shelves!!

Meanwhile, you may wish to have a look at some cost aspects of Vista
as outlined by Peter Gutmann at Auckland's Dept of Computer Science:
<http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt>


Roy

 

[HeyBub]

XP is not "dead". It works just fine, thank you very much. You might
want to check your sources as XP now is being sold with SP2B. Oops.

What is dead before it got out of the starting gate is Hasta La Vista.
It will be the end of Microsoft's operating systems that assume the
paying customer is a thief. It won't take too many times that the kill
switch falsely kicks in to wake the general public up to the disdain
that Microsoft holds for their paying customers.

Paying customers are not thieves. The NON-paying customers are the problem.

The whole thing about which you complain is similar to the cops asking for
your driver's license every time they pull you over. If you're driving
around without one, the probability is that, sooner or later, you'll be
going to jail.

It's a small inconvenience for the rest of us that the cops do what they can
to keep unlicensed drivers off the road.

 

[Alias]

Paying customers are not thieves.

According to MS, they are until they prove otherwise with the WPA, WGA,
WGA/N and SPP.

The NON-paying customers are the problem.

They use cracked versions that don't make them jump through WPA, WGA,
WGA/N and SPP. So, why isn't MS going after them instead of their paying
customers?

The whole thing about which you complain is similar to the cops asking for
your driver's license every time they pull you over.

If they pull you over, it's for a reason. You do not have to show your
license every time you start your car.

If you're driving
around without one, the probability is that, sooner or later, you'll be
going to jail.

Without probable cause, no cop can stop anyone. MS stops all it's paying
customers with no probable cause.

It's a small inconvenience for the rest of us that the cops do what they can
to keep unlicensed drivers off the road.

Your analogy is ridiculous.

Alias

 

[AJR]

Alias - great reply to HeyBub!!! - I like it.

According to MS, they are until they prove otherwise with the WPA, WGA,
WGA/N and SPP.


They use cracked versions that don't make them jump through WPA, WGA,
WGA/N and SPP. So, why isn't MS going after them instead of their paying
customers?


If they pull you over, it's for a reason. You do not have to show your
license every time you start your car.


Without probable cause, no cop can stop anyone. MS stops all it's paying
customers with no probable cause.


Your analogy is ridiculous.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Alias - great reply to HeyBub!!! - I like it.

Alias takes a bow.

Thank you, thank you.



Alias

 

[trev]

Move on to Vista, XP is dead.

I don't WANT to "move on to Vista". In fact, I get annoyed at the very
mention of it.

 

[trev]

x-no-archive: yes

According to MS, they are until they prove otherwise with the WPA,
WGA, WGA/N and SPP.


They use cracked versions that don't make them jump through WPA, WGA,
WGA/N and SPP. So, why isn't MS going after them instead of their
paying customers?


If they pull you over, it's for a reason. You do not have to show your
license every time you start your car.


Without probable cause, no cop can stop anyone. MS stops all it's
paying customers with no probable cause.


Your analogy is ridiculous.

Alias

I was going to reply, but...your reply above needs no help! Good job.

Paying customers like me shouldn't EVER have to bullshit around with WPA
or any of that other nonsense. I'll never forget that time I fired up
my LEGITIMATE and previously-activated copy of Word 2002, to edit a
resume that I REALLY need to sent out, only to have it mysteriously
prompt me to activate again. Well, as luck would have it, Microsoft's
activation servers (do they actually have more than one?) were down, and
I spent a good deal of time and aggravation calling, and calling again
to manually activate that piece of crap.

 

[caver1]

Paying customers are not thieves. The NON-paying customers are the problem.

The whole thing about which you complain is similar to the cops asking for
your driver's license every time they pull you over. If you're driving
around without one, the probability is that, sooner or later, you'll be
going to jail.

It's a small inconvenience for the rest of us that the cops do what they can
to keep unlicensed drivers off the road.

the cops do not treat the legal drivers as if they aren't.

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Windows XP is far from "dead".
In fact there are probably several good years left.

Most people have no need to "Move on to Vista".
The only reason to go to Vista is if there is a specific feature needed in
vista not currently available in Windows XP.
Most should wait until the need for a new computer comes with Vista.

Instead of focusing on numbers, which are really meaningless, look more to
Microsoft lifecycle plans.

Upgrading any operating system from any manufacturer, simply because a newer
version is available, is not a good idea.

 

[caver1]

Alias - great reply to HeyBub!!! - I like it.

This is a good reply to this;
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=36506

 

[Eric]

Windows XP is far from "dead".
In fact there are probably several good years left.

Most people have no need to "Move on to Vista".
The only reason to go to Vista is if there is a specific feature needed in
vista not currently available in Windows XP.
Most should wait until the need for a new computer comes with Vista.

Instead of focusing on numbers, which are really meaningless, look more to
Microsoft lifecycle plans.

Upgrading any operating system from any manufacturer, simply because a
newer version is available, is not a good idea.

That should be a given. You can drive your 1984 Buick if it still runs.
You get a few more features with the 2007 Buick, but it still gets you where
you're going just as fast. The newer OS won't accomplish anything any
faster with the same hardware. You just get more features. You decide if
the features are worth it. Vista is supposed to be tougher on hackers,
which I'd say is yet to be determined.
I personally wouldn't run Vista until it's been out at least a year or two
and proven stable, unless I buy a new PC and it comes bundled as my only
choice.
I'm still running Windows ME at home, so yes XP is far from dead, and no one
is forcing you to upgrade or register. If you don't like telling MS that
your OS is not pirated, run Windows 2000/ME or older. Running your OS is
quite different than driving your car. Your car is a piece of hardware.
You are free to drive it just as you are free to own a PC and use it as you
wish. You can run Linux or write your own OS and MS won't care. If you run
MS' OS, it's more like a service, like you have to tell them when you're
starting it just like you have to show your ticket before you board a plane
or a train. You can buy a bus pass that is good for an entire season, or
good for life, but you still have to show proof that you paid for it every
time you get on that bus.

 

[SAM-R]

Vista SP1 is due out Sept-Oct 2007.

SAM-R warned us:

But there has been a long sequence of updates and hotfixes in between.


There are precise lifecycle promises:


XP SP2 lives! And has to survive at least until Vista SP1 is on the
shelves!!

Meanwhile, you may wish to have a look at some cost aspects of Vista as
outlined by Peter Gutmann at Auckland's Dept of Computer Science:
<http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt>


Roy

 

[Guest]

My XP SP2 still does what it says on the packet!
I won't be moving to Vista until I need to buy a new computer, which won't
happen for a long time as this was bought last May!
There's more to life than software version numbers!
Regards Mike.

Hay Mike your Right

I Just Upgrade My Dell L800r to Windoes Xp SP2 Back in 2006 and For Stupid
vista i Need like 2 Hunder Dollers More Of Upgrads
So i Keeping my Xp It is not Dead And i Run Intel P 3 it runs about 797Mhz
and My Xp Runs Like A Dule Core
So I Can Wate For Mircosft To Put out a SP 3
And if They Don't I wll Just Wait Intel 2008 To Buy a New Pc
As you all Know with New OS System There will Be Bugs
so Why Jump to Vista Just Keep the Windoes Xp
you are a Lot Better off
Thank you
Daniel