Where is MY bottlenexk?

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Bob Brown

Here is my system. Please tell me what/where the bottleneck is
located????

Windows XP Home Edition [SP2] 5.1.2600
Motherboard= Asus A8S-X
BIOS DATE: 08/26/05 10:36:58 VER: 08.00.10
Chipset SiS 756, AMD Hammer

CPU= Type AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Venice S939 Step DH-E6

Monitor= Proview 998/998A/998N(1239224727)
Video Card= NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GS(256 MB) NV41GS

RAM= 1024 MB (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
Corsair VS1GB400C3 1 GB PC3200 DDR SDRAM 200MHz)
HDRIVE= Maxtor 6L080P0
DVD DRIVE= NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A

Thanks
 
C

Conor

Bob Brown said:
Here is my system. Please tell me what/where the bottleneck is
located????

Windows XP Home Edition [SP2] 5.1.2600
Motherboard= Asus A8S-X
BIOS DATE: 08/26/05 10:36:58 VER: 08.00.10
Chipset SiS 756, AMD Hammer

CPU= Type AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Venice S939 Step DH-E6

Monitor= Proview 998/998A/998N(1239224727)
Video Card= NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GS(256 MB) NV41GS

RAM= 1024 MB (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
Corsair VS1GB400C3 1 GB PC3200 DDR SDRAM 200MHz)
HDRIVE= Maxtor 6L080P0
DVD DRIVE= NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A

Thanks
Whats the problem?
 
K

kony

Here is my system. Please tell me what/where the bottleneck is
located????

It depends entirely on what you're trying to do with the
system. Without this context we can only generalize about
what "seems" weakest to what the rest of us would do (or
guess that others, like you, would do on average).

Windows XP Home Edition [SP2] 5.1.2600
Motherboard= Asus A8S-X
BIOS DATE: 08/26/05 10:36:58 VER: 08.00.10
Chipset SiS 756, AMD Hammer

CPU= Type AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Venice S939 Step DH-E6

Monitor= Proview 998/998A/998N(1239224727)
Video Card= NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GS(256 MB) NV41GS

RAM= 1024 MB (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
Corsair VS1GB400C3 1 GB PC3200 DDR SDRAM 200MHz)
HDRIVE= Maxtor 6L080P0
DVD DRIVE= NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A


While this is not a high-end system by today's standard,
it's not really weak either. It will be a significant
expense to upgrade all the parts in turn, enough for a
substantial performance increase across-the-board.

For general/typical uses the hard drive might be replaced.
WD Raptor for example would speed up general OS, office,
email, etc, some. Check Task Manager for the amount of
memory your system uses. If the "Commit Charge", "Peak" is
very close to 1024MB, add more memory.

If you're trying to boost gaming FPS, seek benchmarks of the
specific game and how it responds to CPU vs video card
upgrade. Your current CPU & video card should do fairly
well at reasonable resolutions and eye-candy levels, though,
and since the system isn't all that old yet it brings up
another issue- that if you can't get by with a system that
is, on average, faster than the average gamer, office
worker, etc, is currently using, then why not? We can all
just wish for more performance but until the technology has
a chance to evolve enough, a minor performance increase may
not even be worth the bother to swap out all the parts and
reconfig or reinstall the OS.
 
B

Bob Brown

Bob Brown said:
Here is my system. Please tell me what/where the bottleneck is
located????

Windows XP Home Edition [SP2] 5.1.2600
Motherboard= Asus A8S-X
BIOS DATE: 08/26/05 10:36:58 VER: 08.00.10
Chipset SiS 756, AMD Hammer

CPU= Type AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Venice S939 Step DH-E6

Monitor= Proview 998/998A/998N(1239224727)
Video Card= NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GS(256 MB) NV41GS

RAM= 1024 MB (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
Corsair VS1GB400C3 1 GB PC3200 DDR SDRAM 200MHz)
HDRIVE= Maxtor 6L080P0
DVD DRIVE= NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A

Thanks
Whats the problem?

Sluggish performance, slow to show images in websites.
Slowness in loading programs...been getting worse.
Yes, I do defrag once a week.
ran ad,virus scans already
 
C

Chris Hill

Here is my system. Please tell me what/where the bottleneck is
located????

Windows XP Home Edition [SP2] 5.1.2600
Motherboard= Asus A8S-X
BIOS DATE: 08/26/05 10:36:58 VER: 08.00.10
Chipset SiS 756, AMD Hammer

CPU= Type AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Venice S939 Step DH-E6

Monitor= Proview 998/998A/998N(1239224727)
Video Card= NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GS(256 MB) NV41GS

RAM= 1024 MB (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
Corsair VS1GB400C3 1 GB PC3200 DDR SDRAM 200MHz)
HDRIVE= Maxtor 6L080P0
DVD DRIVE= NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A


If this is the same system with the noisy drive, the drive could be
going bad. Your system should be faster than mine.
 
C

Conor

Bob Brown said:
Sluggish performance, slow to show images in websites.
Slowness in loading programs...been getting worse.

Nothing that the spec above would be the cause of.
 
J

John Holmes

Bob Brown "contributed" in alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt:
Here is my system. Please tell me what/where the bottleneck is
located????

Windows XP Home Edition [SP2] 5.1.2600
Motherboard= Asus A8S-X
BIOS DATE: 08/26/05 10:36:58 VER: 08.00.10
Chipset SiS 756, AMD Hammer

CPU= Type AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Venice S939 Step DH-E6

Monitor= Proview 998/998A/998N(1239224727)
Video Card= NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GS(256 MB) NV41GS

RAM= 1024 MB (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
Corsair VS1GB400C3 1 GB PC3200 DDR SDRAM 200MHz)
HDRIVE= Maxtor 6L080P0
DVD DRIVE= NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A

Thanks

That bottleneck is located just above your shoulders.
 
G

Guest

Bob Brown said:
Here is my system. Please tell me what/where the bottleneck is
located????

Windows XP Home Edition [SP2] 5.1.2600
Motherboard= Asus A8S-X
BIOS DATE: 08/26/05 10:36:58 VER: 08.00.10
Chipset SiS 756, AMD Hammer

CPU= Type AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Venice S939 Step DH-E6

Monitor= Proview 998/998A/998N(1239224727)
Video Card= NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GS(256 MB) NV41GS

RAM= 1024 MB (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
Corsair VS1GB400C3 1 GB PC3200 DDR SDRAM 200MHz)
HDRIVE= Maxtor 6L080P0
DVD DRIVE= NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A

Thanks

I've just noticed that you posted a message about your hard drive chattering
before this one. Have you had a look in the event log yet to see if you have
a hard disk problem? Simply go to Start>Run type eventvwr and click ok. If
you see lots of red crosses relating to hard disk problems then I would
suggest that your hard drive might be on its way out and would explain the
sluggishness you are talking about.

Try the maxtor site as somebody else suggested to carry out a test.
 
B

Bob Brown

I've just noticed that you posted a message about your hard drive chattering
before this one. Have you had a look in the event log yet to see if you have
a hard disk problem? Simply go to Start>Run type eventvwr and click ok. If
you see lots of red crosses relating to hard disk problems then I would
suggest that your hard drive might be on its way out and would explain the
sluggishness you are talking about.

Try the maxtor site as somebody else suggested to carry out a test.

Here is some of the events in a image I captured.
It only shows the first few, there is another 20+ failed.
Don't know if it has anything to do with the drive?
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/2057/events6zg.png
 
B

Bob Brown

What does it show when you double click on one of them ?

Here are a few samples.

The browser service has failed to retrieve the backup list too many
times on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{D35936D1-A011-4F78-BE49-8E4EC5826B70}. The backup
browser is stopping.

Silent Running: rising temperature caused level transition: L2 -> L1

It says this following one A LOT!

The Parallel port driver service failed to start due to the following
error:
The service cannot be started, either because it is disabled or
because it has no enabled devices associated with it.


The browser service has failed to retrieve the backup list too many
times on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{D35936D1-A011-4F78-BE49-8E4EC5826B70}. The backup
browser is stopping.

DCOM got error "The service cannot be started, either because it is
disabled or because it has no enabled devices associated with it. "
attempting to start the service wuauserv with arguments "" in order to
run the server:
{E60687F7-01A1-40AA-86AC-DB1CBF673334}


So, what does/don't this mean for me?
thanks
 
R

Rod Speed

Bob Brown said:
Here are a few samples.

The browser service has failed to retrieve the backup list too many
times on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{D35936D1-A011-4F78-BE49-8E4EC5826B70}. The backup
browser is stopping.
Silent Running: rising temperature caused level transition: L2 -> L1

That one sounds like the cpu is getting too hot and so its slowing
the system down. Check the system temps using Everest.
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=4181
That would certainly explain the sluggish effect you get.
It says this following one A LOT!
The Parallel port driver service failed to start due to the following error:
The service cannot be started, either because it is disabled or
because it has no enabled devices associated with it.
 
C

Charlie Wilkes

Here are a few samples.

The browser service has failed to retrieve the backup list too many
times on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{D35936D1-A011-4F78-BE49-8E4EC5826B70}. The backup
browser is stopping.

Silent Running: rising temperature caused level transition: L2 -> L1

Take the cover off your case and go at the fans and everything else
with a can of compressed air and a soft brush, like a paintbrush. Do
it outside, in bright daylight, so you can see what is going on and so
you don't get all that fine dust spread out inside your house again.
It says this following one A LOT!

The Parallel port driver service failed to start due to the following
error:
The service cannot be started, either because it is disabled or
because it has no enabled devices associated with it.


The browser service has failed to retrieve the backup list too many
times on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{D35936D1-A011-4F78-BE49-8E4EC5826B70}. The backup
browser is stopping.

DCOM got error "The service cannot be started, either because it is
disabled or because it has no enabled devices associated with it. "
attempting to start the service wuauserv with arguments "" in order to
run the server:
{E60687F7-01A1-40AA-86AC-DB1CBF673334}


So, what does/don't this mean for me?
thanks
I don't know exactly what is going on, but I think these are software
issues. Here is what I would do in your situation:

1. Make sure to have all install CDs on hand -- motherboard drivers,
OS, hardware drivers.

2. Back up all personal data -- pix, documents, etc. -- in case you
have to go to the nuclear option, i.e., reformatting your drive and
reinstalling everything. That is a distinct possibility with a system
in the condition you describe, and in fact, if it's not too painful,
that would be a good way to go.

3. Get anti-spyware software and use per instructions. My advice is
to go to a trusted site (Microsoft, CNET, etc.) and use what they
recommend. Be careful because some anti-spyware programs are in fact
spyware themselves.

4. Go to control panel/system/hardware/device manager and look for
question marks and exclamation points in all categories, and delete
any devices that have them.

5. Reboot, with the CDs handy, and make sure you get the right
drivers installed for everything.

6. Get a freeware registry cleaner. The one I use is RegScrubXP, and
all I can say is, it has never given me problems. Install it, then
choose "regscrub finds problems." It will give you a long list I bet.
Then choose "select all" and "fix all." Then reboot.

7. If you are using any antivirus protection other than Grisoft AVG
freeware edition, uninstall it (if you can) and go to free.grisoft.com
to get AVG.

I'm not sure this will work, because I don't know what all is on your
system, but it might help. Good luck.

Charlie
 
R

Rod Speed

Bob Brown said:
Motherboard temp stays 40-41C
CPU Temps Idle is 39C, with a few things loaded 41C, full load for
several minutes 57C

Was it sluggish while you were seeing those temps ?
 
R

Rod Speed

Bob Brown said:
It was not sluggish until about 3-4 weeks ago, even at those temps.

I'd image the system, do a completely clean install of XP and see
if that fixes the problem. If it does, use the files and setting migration
wizard to get what matters out of the image and apply it to the clean
install. If it doesnt help, you've developed a hardware problem.
 

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