Hi Bert:
Not sure what you mean by SR doing what it is designed to
do. I have over 10GB free space on C: partition so SR
should not suspend operation. It seems as if SR is
misreading the available space.
Anyway, have done what you suggested and only one
restore point was showing after running "Print the list
of available System Restore Points.vbs".
I then turned off System Restore, thus deleting all
Restore Points, rebooted, then turned on SR for C:,
rebooted. A single SR was automatically made and the
free space on the partition (C
shows as 11.50GB and
space available for SR 1799MB. I then created manually
two other Restore Points, each Restore Point decreased
the free space on the drive by 0.04GB (40MB). After each
Restore Point I ran "Print the list of available System
Restore Points.vbs and the output showed each Restore
Point created for a total of three SRs. After three
restore points the free space was 11.42GB.
With respect to my previous post, what I mean by shut
down, I actually turn the machine off.
I greatly appreciate your assistance in trying to solve
this problem.
I have not 'snipped' the earlier posts as I think a full
record of the steps taken may assist others with a
similar problem.
I re-examined 'Event Viewer' for yesterday and it again
records that SR was shut down due to insufficient space on
\\?\Volume{92c3ffeb-0d3d-11d9-9650-806d6172696f}\. Do
you know how I check what this refers to? I assume it
must be the C: partition as this is the only partition
being monitored. I ran this through 'Find' in Regedit
but there is no record of this designator in the
Registry.
Hi Edward,
SR is doing exactly what it was designed to do when free
disk space reaches 50mb's. At 50mb's SR SR Suspends, and
purges all restore points. So there should be none.
Now what we need to do is track down what's using up all
the free space causing this to happen.
Use the frequency script to set the auto restore point
time back to 24 hours. We know auto restore is working.
Download the "Print the list of available System Restore
Points.vbs" script from the following page and run it.
It should show only the restore points made today.
http://home.earthlink.net/~mvp_bert/html/srscripts.html
Check and make note of how much free disk space is
available in the C:\ partition.
Create another restore point and recheck the free disk
space. How much did is use.
When you say shut down at night, how is the system being
shut down? Is it by chance going into Suspend or
Hibernate? --
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/
Edward W. Thompson wrote:
Hi Bert:
Your comprehensive suggestions are much appreciated. I
have followed your suggestions and the machine made
multiple Restore Points (every hour setting). The next
day, today, after the machine shut down for the night
there are no Restore Points, all have been deleted
overnight. This is typical of my problem. I can make
multiple restore poiints on day one but after an
overnight shutdown all are gone. Event Viewer/System
shows the following at about 1700h yesterday
"The System Restore service has been suspended because
there is not enough disk space available on the drive
\\?\Volume{92c3ffeb-0d3d-11d9-9650-806d6172696f}\.
System Restore will automatically resume service once
at least 200 MB of free disk space is available on the
system drive".
At startup today in Event Viewer/System the following
shows
"The System Restore service has resumed monitoring due
to space freed on the system drive."
Only the partition on drive C is being monitoired by SR
and the free space on the drive is shown as 11.65GB. As
only the C: partition is monitored by SR I am assuming
the reference
\\?\Volume{92c3ffeb-0d3d-11d9-9650-806d6172696f}\.
relates to the C: partition although the designator \\?\
seems strange.
Any suggestions on how to solve this will be
Hi Edward,
Yes run the RestorePointFrequency.vbs script. Make sure
the frequency is set to no more than 24 hours.
If the Disk Cleanup utility is being used, make sure
clean up under System Restore is unchecked on the More
Options tab. Having this checked will remove all
restore points except the most recent one. Perform this test:
1. Confirm that Task Scheduler Service is running.
a. Click Start, click Run, and then type CMD then
press enter. b. Type Net Start at the command
prompt and press enter to make sure that the Task
Scheduler service is up and running. 2. Disable and
re-enable system restore to delete all
the restore points on the system.
3. Turn off SR on all partitions/drives other than the
one Windows is installed on.
4. Reduce the "Disk space usage" to just under 1GB.
5. Open My Computer and right click on the drive where
Windows is installed and SR is monitoring, then click
properties. Confirm that the free disk space is over
10gbs as noted earlier. In SR reduce the "Disk space
usage" to just under 1GB.
6. Turn off the screen saver, and adjust the power
management options so the system will not go into
standby or hibernate. 7. Use the
RestorePointFrequency.vbs script and set the
frequency to 1 hour. Leave the system unattended for 1
hour, then check SR for an automatic RP. Restore points
are only created during idle time; for example, when
there is no mouse, keyboard, or disk i/o activity. 8.
Check the event viewer to see if there are any events
denoting Restore points being purged.
--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/
Edward W. Thompson wrote:
My thanks to you and Bert for your replies.
Unfortunately I have tried all the methods suggested
without result. I run KAV and NOD32 as AVPs and
CWShredder, Spybot S&D, Ad Aware and SpyBlaster so I
think I have as much protection as is available
against 'nasties, as there is. I have also run on
line scanners on the machine and as far as I can
determine the the machine is 'clean'. As far as
actual free space is concerned the 10GB plus free is
the space free on partition. I take your point re
the need to create restore points for partitions
containing data and program files.
I haven't have yet tried XPSystem
RestorePointFrequency.vbs but will do so.
This problem, while it seems rare is not unique. I
have seen two other references to the same problem
but no solution so far. As I create daily copies of
the Registry using ERUNT the problem for me is an
annoyance rather than 'critical'.
Once more thanks to you and Bert for your kind advice.
System Restore will create Restore Points for each
and every drive / partition unless told otherwise. As
Restore Points essentially only contain information
relating to the windows system there is little point
creating Restore Points for drives / partitions only
containing programme files and or data files. The way
you have phrased your message infers that your
10 gb plus free space is spread across all drives /
partitions. However, only the free space on the
partition containing your Windows operating system
will be taken into account in determining whether it
is possible to create restore points. How large is
the partition containing the windows operating
system and how large is the free space on that
partition. If I have deduced the cause of your
problem properly it may be possible to resolve your problem by
moving
folders / files to another partition. Where are your
temporary internet files and your My Documents
located? Also where is your Outlook Express store
folder? How much drive space is allocated to System
Restore for your windows partition -System Restore
-Settings. --
Hope this helps.
Gerry
System Restore does not automatically create Restore
Points for me as the vent Log 'claims' I have
insufficient space. All partitions and drives have
10GB plus free space. Have tried reloading SR but
have not yet been able to solve the problem. Any
suggestions? I can create Restore Points manually,
any number on any day, but all but one are deleted
after 24 hours presumeably by FIFO.
