whats the best pop up blocker?

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Ted Zieglar

Folks:

Let's all cool down a little bit, shall we?

There's no crime in suggesting a program inwhich you have a vested interest,
so long as you state that fact clearly. Others who have vested interests in
software have posted here, and by and large they always mention this fact so
the reader can take it into consideration.

Newspapers and magazines often review or comment on products or services
inwhich they or their parent company have an interest, and they disclose
this fact in their reviews.

It's not spam unless a poster blankets large numbers of newsgroups with
advertising.

We often discuss our opinions about individual programs here, for and
against. I'll go so far as to say that I use Super AdBlocker and find it
very effective, and I've had good experiences with their technical support.
There. Kick me.

--
Ted Zieglar
"You can do it if you try."

Nick Skrepetos (SuperAdBlocker.com) said:
Leythos,

Thank you for your opinion. I will keep posting here and helping users.

-Nick

Leythos said:
You are NOT providing answers you are providing a LINK to a program that
you have a vested interest in - that makes you a spammer. If you didn't
have a vested interest in the product it would not be spam.
FREE.

Which has nothing to do with your spamming the group.


Your "give away" or education level has nothing to do with the fact that
you are spamming the group wiht a advert for a product that you have a
vested interest in.

As it stands, your product is not the only product that makes the claims
you do, but your product is the only one being hawked here by a person
with a vested interest in it - and is commercially available.
did
 
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Leythos

It's not spam unless a poster blankets large numbers of newsgroups with
advertising.

Yes it is - number of groups means nothing - count number of replies
without any other content.
We often discuss our opinions about individual programs here, for and
against. I'll go so far as to say that I use Super AdBlocker and find it
very effective, and I've had good experiences with their technical support.
There. Kick me.

No need to kick you - if you like it, good, I never suggested anything
about the product, never suggested it didn't work.

The issue is that a Vendor comes here and posts to use their product to
every post that could warrant it's use, no other vendors products are
mentioned (except to claim that none of them work) - that's spam.
 
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Leythos

Nick, just to clarify, you didn't answer this - why do you not consider
your post spam like all other spam?
 
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Nick Skrepetos \(SuperAdBlocker.com\)

Mike,

You know nothing about me, or my "integrity and decency". I have not tried
to "scare" users. They are free to use my product, remove the spyware/adware
that the other products often miss, and then remove it. It costs the users
nothing and their problem is solved.

-Nick
 
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Leythos

You know nothing about me, or my "integrity and decency". I have not tried
to "scare" users.

You said "> "... not to download 50 free products only to have nothing
work and their computer be filled with software that did not solve their
problem."

In your post - that sure seems to indicate that you are telling the
public that none of the 50 free products that are recommended here in
this group will help them.
 
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Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)

Nick

Integrity and decency are measured more by action than some abstract
expression on a person's face.. your action is well documented here..
 
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Nick Skrepetos \(SuperAdBlocker.com\)

Leythos,

I did not say "other products are worthless". Do not put words in my
mouth/text. I have been a big supporter of free software for years, and in
fact have over 20 million copies of free software I created in the market. I
have never put down another authors work. Every day I see poor users
suffering and trying to get rid of spyware/adware. Sometimes our product
will find things other products miss - sometimes the other products find
things we miss. The user has the right to try each solution to see what will
solve their problem.

Users can use our software for free and uninstall. My motivations are not of
"financial gain" - I enjoy helping users.

Nick Skrepetos
SuperAdBlocker.com | SUPERAntiSpyware
http://www.superadblocker.com
 
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Leythos

Users can use our software for free and uninstall. My motivations are not of
"financial gain" - I enjoy helping users.

I don't have any issues with your product or you, only the perception of
your posts. Having been part of Usenet since 84, I've seen all the
different spammers methods and you're is just a normal spam. I don't
care how you take it, what your motivation is, it's just pure and simple
spam by definition (not an opinion).
 
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Nick Skrepetos \(SuperAdBlocker.com\)

Leythos,

Let's be clear about things - I have always stated our product is an OPTION
to help the users, not the ONLY solution, and I don't say no other products
work. Sometimes our works better, sometimes another vendor's product does.

I don't hide the fact that I am the vendor and have a vested interest - I am
clear about the fact in each post that the product is a free trial for
15-days and can be used, and then uninstalled if the user does not wish to
purchase.

This is getting out of hand - and therefor this is the end of this thread
for me.

-Nick
 
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Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)

Ted

There have been more than a few others spam this and other newsgroups, and I
can't honestly say that I have noticed anybody state that 'oh, and btw, if
you subscribe to my product, I get all of the money"..

It is also not ethical, albeit a practise rife in North America, to
deliberately suggest or name other products as being inferior to one's own
where there is an obvious vested interest in purveying one's own product for
financial reward..

I don't know much of your experience, but I would suggest that you know as
much as anybody that the well known 'freebie' spyware programs actually do a
very good job..

What is happening here is essentially no more morally right than the popup
claiming that your system is full of spyware, and that the only way to be
rid of it is to pay $30 to some unknown quantity.. sorry, but I don't
subscribe to tactics of that kind..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


Ted Zieglar said:
Folks:

Let's all cool down a little bit, shall we?

There's no crime in suggesting a program inwhich you have a vested
interest,
so long as you state that fact clearly. Others who have vested interests
in
software have posted here, and by and large they always mention this fact
so
the reader can take it into consideration.

Newspapers and magazines often review or comment on products or services
inwhich they or their parent company have an interest, and they disclose
this fact in their reviews.

It's not spam unless a poster blankets large numbers of newsgroups with
advertising.

We often discuss our opinions about individual programs here, for and
against. I'll go so far as to say that I use Super AdBlocker and find it
very effective, and I've had good experiences with their technical
support.
There. Kick me.
 
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Leythos

Leythos,

Let's be clear about things - I have always stated our product is an OPTION
to help the users, not the ONLY solution, and I don't say no other products
work. Sometimes our works better, sometimes another vendor's product does.

Lets be clearer then - you said, specifically: "user want a solution -
not to download 50 free products only to have nothing work and their
computer be filled with software that did not solve their problem."

If you can't see how that WILL by the nontechnical types (as well as
those of us that are technical) as implying that nothing else suggested
here works as good as your product, then you are sorely missing things
and understanding. You just lumped all the great products on the market,
even the free ones, into the same category as trash.
I don't hide the fact that I am the vendor and have a vested interest - I am
clear about the fact in each post that the product is a free trial for
15-days and can be used, and then uninstalled if the user does not wish to
purchase.

How the heck does that make it OK to spam the group? Just because you
post that you are the vendor doesn't make it more acceptable - spam is
spam, like it or not, you're a spammer.
This is getting out of hand - and therefor this is the end of this thread
for me.

I suspect it's not the end of the spamming though - which means it's not
the end of complaints about spamming.

You could easily word your HELP so as to not make it spam, but then you
would not be advertising if you did that.
 
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I'm a Stalker

Leythos thinks he's the Usenet God. What he thinks is always correct. He is
senile, crazy and a stalker. He still thinks it's 1984.

Nick I warned you about him in another group. Best to just ignore the
stalker.






Ted Zieglar said:
Folks:

Let's all cool down a little bit, shall we?

There's no crime in suggesting a program inwhich you have a vested
interest,
so long as you state that fact clearly. Others who have vested interests
in
software have posted here, and by and large they always mention this fact
so
the reader can take it into consideration.

Newspapers and magazines often review or comment on products or services
inwhich they or their parent company have an interest, and they disclose
this fact in their reviews.

It's not spam unless a poster blankets large numbers of newsgroups with
advertising.

We often discuss our opinions about individual programs here, for and
against. I'll go so far as to say that I use Super AdBlocker and find it
very effective, and I've had good experiences with their technical
support.
There. Kick me.
 
I

I'm a Stalker

You are a very sick person.




Leythos said:
You said "> "... not to download 50 free products only to have nothing
work and their computer be filled with software that did not solve their
problem."

In your post - that sure seems to indicate that you are telling the
public that none of the 50 free products that are recommended here in
this group will help them.
 
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Leythos

You are a very sick person.

pcbutts1, if you consider yourself "Normal" or "healthy" then I'm quite
glad you consider me sick....

And you've still not proven you have permission to host any of those
files or that you didn't steal the code we showed everyone you stole.
 
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Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)

Leythos

It would appear that the spammers are forming co-operatives now.. oh joy..
 
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Leythos

It would appear that the spammers are forming co-operatives now.. oh joy..

Oh, come on, I would not put Nick in the same boat as pcbutts1. Nick has
skill, Nick seems to know how to code, Nick seems to do something to
help others without stealing other vendors works - Butts can't claim any
of that.
 
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I'm a Stalker

WOW! what a big 180
STALKER



Leythos said:
Oh, come on, I would not put Nick in the same boat as pcbutts1. Nick has
skill, Nick seems to know how to code, Nick seems to do something to
help others without stealing other vendors works - Butts can't claim any
of that.
 
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Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)

No reference to ability, only to marketing except for the fact that Nick's
product is actually his, as you say..
 
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Leythos

WOW! what a big 180

No 180 on my part. I only complained about the SPAM, not abil the
product, the vendor, or it's ability to do anything.

You followed me here - guess that makes you the stalker now pcbutts1.

So why are you still hiding behind another fake name?
 

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