Whats Better FireFox/Thunderbird or Mozilla or SeaMonkey?

[S Kalynuik]

I was using mozilla awhile ago then switched to FireFox/Thunderbird
combination then past couple months to SeaMonkey, but this last change has
made me reconsider, maybe I should go back to FireFox/Thunderbird
combination, but I just wanted other opinions, any will be fine positive or
negative.

Thank-you

 

[Lou]

I was using mozilla awhile ago then switched to FireFox/Thunderbird
combination then past couple months to SeaMonkey, but this last change has
made me reconsider, maybe I should go back to FireFox/Thunderbird
combination, but I just wanted other opinions, any will be fine positive or
negative.

Thank-you

Better to ask in one or more of these places:
Help sources

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MOZILLA:

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NETSCAPE 8:

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NETSCAPE 7:

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COMMUNICATOR:

sssnews://secnews.netscape.com/netscape.communicator.unix

 

[Ian Anderson]

I was using mozilla awhile ago then switched to FireFox/Thunderbird
combination then past couple months to SeaMonkey, but this last change has
made me reconsider, maybe I should go back to FireFox/Thunderbird
combination, but I just wanted other opinions, any will be fine positive or
negative.

I prefer Opera as my default browser but don't recommend Opera M2 for
email or newsgroups. Instead I use Agent 3.3 for newsgroups and Eudora
7.0.1.0 for email.

Thunderbird is accredited as an excellent newsreader but that doesn't
mean you have to use Firefox as your browser. You don't have to use a
particular combination, you can use whatever browser and newsreader
you are comfortable with.

 

[Kerodo]

I was using mozilla awhile ago then switched to FireFox/Thunderbird
combination then past couple months to SeaMonkey, but this last change has
made me reconsider, maybe I should go back to FireFox/Thunderbird
combination, but I just wanted other opinions, any will be fine positive or
negative.

I like them all. I guess it just depends if the idea of having all
programs in one is appealing to you or not. The two separates running
will consume more ram than either SeaMonkey or Mozilla Suite. I found
SeaMonkey to be pretty good. Right now I use Firefox with Outlook.

 

[The Six Million Dollar Man]

I was using mozilla awhile ago then switched to FireFox/Thunderbird
combination then past couple months to SeaMonkey, but this last change has
made me reconsider, maybe I should go back to FireFox/Thunderbird
combination, but I just wanted other opinions, any will be fine positive or
negative.

Thank-you

I decided on Firefox after trying out Internet Explorer, Avant Browser,
Maxthon, and Opera. For me Firefox is the one that I feel most
comfortable using. The only minor inconvenience is that it can take a
few days for some of the extensions to be upgraded after a Firefox
update. Some are never upgraded.

I use Thunderbird for email. The only other email client I have ever
used is Outlook Express. I prefer the look, security, and the RRS (OE
doesn't do RSS) features in Thunderbird. I also like the option to view
"Threads with Unread" for newsgroups. I miss OE informing me when there
are new newsgroups.

 

[john]

The reason people like firefox was that it was fast to load in comparison
to Netscape 7.1 and Mozilla. Thats the ONLY reason it gained momentum!

Slowly it has become like the mozilla monster again gaining in weight
steadily.


The only reason now to get firefox is its extensions... seamonkey can handle
extensions too, but no one
is making them for that.

Mozilla and seamonkey to avoid the never-ending wait, adding a "preloader"
that loads part of the program when windows starts (UGGG) so it will open
slightly faster.

There is a small program that may speed up firefox and gives it a preloader:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/ffpreloader/

I personally use AVANTBROWSER and OE as my main programs...
AVANTBROWSER can be secure as firefox even though its based on the IE
engine...

However I have almost all mainstream browsers on my computer.

One thing I cannot understand is why opera did not catch as much as firefox
at that era.... it was ahead of its time in many ways and still is a good
browser and fast.

--
Kenny - www.ComputerBoom.com

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

-Arthur C. Clarke

 

[Franklin]

The reason people like firefox was that it was fast to load in
comparison to Netscape 7.1 and Mozilla. Thats the ONLY reason it
gained momentum!

Have you seen this page. It has some interesting browser timings.
http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html

One of the many interesting things that page says is this:

"Firefox and Mozilla are clearly optimised for
Linux, and Opera is clearly optimised for Windows.
These optimisations are mostly obvious with the
loading times, although there is also a little
difference in the cache handling on the different
operating systems."

 

[john]

Frank, thanks for the link... it is very interesting...

I use firefox on linux and I cant see any difference in performance...
its slow as a snail to start there too...but its better than mozilla....

This person forgets that most people add extensions to firefox...
and I bet that makes it even more slower...

on Windows IE is the fastest from my experience.. but that is because most
of it is loaded with windows.

Thats why I use the AVANTBROWSER shell..
in this page they do not mention the current version wich is 10.2.39
Perhaps they made a mistake with version 1.1 on that table, since I started
using version 8 and that
was years ago! Perhaps they mean 10.1 and not 1.1

here it says opera9 is faster than avant... I dont see that here... on cold
start they are about the same..

--
Kenny - www.ComputerBoom.com

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

-Arthur C. Clarke
--

 

[David]

I was using mozilla awhile ago then switched to FireFox/Thunderbird
combination then past couple months to SeaMonkey, but this last change has
made me reconsider, maybe I should go back to FireFox/Thunderbird
combination, but I just wanted other opinions, any will be fine positive or
negative.

Thank-you

I'm very happy with the current version of SeaMonkey. I use the stable
version.

 

[BrianE]

I was using mozilla awhile ago then switched to FireFox/Thunderbird
combination then past couple months to SeaMonkey, but this last change has
made me reconsider, maybe I should go back to FireFox/Thunderbird
combination, but I just wanted other opinions, any will be fine positive or
negative.

Thank-you

Avant Browser and Thunderbird. I like the way the tabs work in Avant
plus it just works so well on my PC. I like the junk mail filtering
capability of Thunderbird plus its adequate for my needs as a newsreader
(having said that I'm using Gravity for a while right now.).

B.

 

[HVS]

On 05 Apr 2006, David wrote

I'm very happy with the current version of SeaMonkey. I use
the stable version.

Browsers are very much a horses-and-courses thing; the only
rational approach is to try them all and decide which one suits
your habits best.

I moved away from Firefox to K-Meleon a year or so ago for
various reasons, but have recently switched back to FF; it may
be a false impression, but to my mind it seems to have improved a
*lot* since I used it in the pre-and-initial days of versions 0.8
- 1.0.

(I liked K-Meleon a lot, but after a reinstall when I moved from
Win98SE to XP-Pro, I was getting some very odd, clunky, freezing,
and memory-hogging behaviour on a number of sites I regularly
visit. I'll try it again at some point, but for now will work
with Firefox.)

Reading this thread, though, I thought I'd try SeaMonkey 1.0. It
looks very good, but there are certain features that I use in
Firefox and K-Meleon that it seems not to have. (An example --
unless I've missed how to do it, which is quite possible -- I
didn't see a way of opening all the sites in a Personal Toolbar
folder in one go. That's an absolute must for me.)

Each to his own, though -- my browser isn't my religion, and
whilst I'm using Firefox again for the time being, this is one
browser tart who'll keep trying other ones....

 

[Al Klein]

The reason people like firefox was that it was fast to load in comparison
to Netscape 7.1 and Mozilla. Thats the ONLY reason it gained momentum!

I don't care how long it takes to load - my computers run 24/7. I
like the tabs, and the fact that center-button opens a link in a new
one and closes an old one. I have a half-decent password generator
built in. I can move the tabs around.

Did SOME people use it because it's fast? Maybe. Did MOST people who
use it do so because it's fast? Maybe. Is that "the reason people
like firefox"? "the ONLY reason it gained momentum"? No.

John, the world isn't an illusion of yours - the rest of us really
exist.

 

[badgolferman]

BrianE, 4/5/2006, 4:08:46 AM,

Avant Browser and Thunderbird. I like the way the tabs work in Avant
plus it just works so well on my PC. I like the junk mail filtering
capability of Thunderbird plus its adequate for my needs as a
newsreader (having said that I'm using Gravity for a while right
now.).

B.

Does Avant Browser still have the Send Page feature working? Other
than IE it is the only browser I have found that will send the entire
web page in the body of the message. If so I may go back to it.

 

[BrianE]

Does Avant Browser still have the Send Page feature working? Other
than IE it is the only browser I have found that will send the entire
web page in the body of the message. If so I may go back to it.

Under File yes, the command is there. I've never used it though so I
can't comment how good that feature is.

Avant is excellent though.

B.

 

[Daniel Mandic]

Al Klein wrote:

I don't care how long it takes to load - my computers run 24/7. I



John, the world isn't an illusion of yours - the rest of us really
exist.

Hi John!



Do you think you are the only human who can interpret other people.


How about that: You start with you (yours). Putting in the first
yourself, as the illuionist. And then you are the rest (hard right - up
to the edge!) - us, is then only what comes left of yours.

But you will need both hands and both feets to rule . ! And both
brain-parts.

Your kind of four playing can be seen through.
(Christian property - Freeware for you and not for us. As you would
care about us <multi grin>). The world is with and without you.




Best Regards,

Daniel Mandic

 

[john]

Perhaps you were not around at the time, I followed this development
closely.

When Netscape 6 came out, it was the promise to linux uses for an internet
suite that
would rival Microsoft's IE and OE.
When it was released people were horrified... it took ages to load and was
buggy beyond belief.
This was the final blow for Netscape... it opened its source to make the
mozilla project
but that to was too slow to load. Out of the mozilla project a small
development team started working
on the then called "phoenix" browser, that was the answer to all the
complaints about
Netscape and mozilla suites speed.

THEREFORE the reason why phoenix (later called firefox because of legal
issues with the name)
was its smaller size and speed in comparison to the Mozilla suite.

see here:
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,105278,00.asp

and I quote:

"The Phoenix browser, which uses a large amount of the Mozilla code, is "a
lean and fast browser" that loads in nearly half the time of Mozilla 1.1,
mozilla.org said."

Thats mozilla.org speaking, ok?

Now go use your cellphone with a cable for the power and a wire for the
data....

As you see I know my technology very well as well as the possibility for
free wireless energy.


--
Kenny - www.ComputerBoom.com

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

-Arthur C. Clarke
--

 

[Daniel Mandic]

As you would care about us <multi grin>). The world is with and
without you.

And that.

Worrying about those things is like outlawing dihydrogen monoxide
because someone might die of it.


By Al Klein




Best Regards,

Daniel Mandic

 

[Daniel Mandic]

Perhaps you were not around at the time, I followed this development
closely.

Yes, you do.

When Netscape 6 came out, it was the promise to linux uses for an
internet suite that would rival Microsoft's IE and OE.
When it was released people were horrified... it took ages to load
and was buggy beyond belief. This was the final blow for Netscape...
it opened its source to make the mozilla project but that to was too
slow to load. Out of the mozilla project a small development team
started working on the then called "phoenix" browser, that was the
answer to all the complaints about Netscape and mozilla suites speed.

Netscape 3.04 Gold. P133, HX Chipset and a MIL-NT4 with Service Pack
anyelse. That was the times.
Ie was rant at this time. Ie4 is super-rant.
But ie5 or6 (O.K. not open source) is pretty well and the first faster
IE's.
Netscapes 5 and up were a real horror to me. As Apple, installing w/o
shame into Mirkosoft Windows (9x-ME/NTx.x) and also lame as ie4!

THEREFORE the reason why phoenix (later called firefox because of
legal issues with the name) was its smaller size and speed in
comparison to the Mozilla suite.

see here:
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,105278,00.asp

and I quote:

"The Phoenix browser, which uses a large amount of the Mozilla code,
is "a lean and fast browser" that loads in nearly half the time of
Mozilla 1.1, mozilla.org said."

Thats mozilla.org speaking, ok?

Now go use your cellphone with a cable for the power and a wire for
the data....

As you see I know my technology very well as well as the possibility
for free wireless energy.

Don´t be so angry. I don't think the next energy form will be free
available. You must have Eggs, Bread, Meat, Vegetables, Chickens, Milk,
Hay, Water, Alcoholics, Herbs, Manufacturing, Textiles, Shoes, Wheels,
Irony and so much other things for Exchange. Wood, Fruits, Tobacco,
Drugs (pet nostrum), Cacao, (Oil [secondary]), Stones etc...



Kind Regards,

Daniel Mandic


P.S.: Netscape 8.1 is great!!!

 

[john]

Hello Daniel.... one detail...

There was never a netscape 5
they jumped from 4.7 to 6
just like winamp jumped from 3 to 5


--
Kenny - www.ComputerBoom.com

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

-Arthur C. Clarke
--

Perhaps you were not around at the time, I followed this development
closely.

Yes, you do.

When Netscape 6 came out, it was the promise to linux uses for an
internet suite that would rival Microsoft's IE and OE.
When it was released people were horrified... it took ages to load
and was buggy beyond belief. This was the final blow for Netscape...
it opened its source to make the mozilla project but that to was too
slow to load. Out of the mozilla project a small development team
started working on the then called "phoenix" browser, that was the
answer to all the complaints about Netscape and mozilla suites speed.

Netscape 3.04 Gold. P133, HX Chipset and a MIL-NT4 with Service Pack
anyelse. That was the times.
Ie was rant at this time. Ie4 is super-rant.
But ie5 or6 (O.K. not open source) is pretty well and the first faster
IE's.
Netscapes 5 and up were a real horror to me. As Apple, installing w/o
shame into Mirkosoft Windows (9x-ME/NTx.x) and also lame as ie4!

THEREFORE the reason why phoenix (later called firefox because of
legal issues with the name) was its smaller size and speed in
comparison to the Mozilla suite.

see here:
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,105278,00.asp

and I quote:

"The Phoenix browser, which uses a large amount of the Mozilla code,
is "a lean and fast browser" that loads in nearly half the time of
Mozilla 1.1, mozilla.org said."

Thats mozilla.org speaking, ok?

Now go use your cellphone with a cable for the power and a wire for
the data....

As you see I know my technology very well as well as the possibility
for free wireless energy.

Don´t be so angry. I don't think the next energy form will be free
available. You must have Eggs, Bread, Meat, Vegetables, Chickens, Milk,
Hay, Water, Alcoholics, Herbs, Manufacturing, Textiles, Shoes, Wheels,
Irony and so much other things for Exchange. Wood, Fruits, Tobacco,
Drugs (pet nostrum), Cacao, (Oil [secondary]), Stones etc...



Kind Regards,

Daniel Mandic


P.S.: Netscape 8.1 is great!!!

 

[john]

Its there and it works great...

I must add that I have found Avant more stable than firefox when opening
many pages (more than 20),
and with 20+ pages it takes up less memory than firefox

--
Kenny - www.ComputerBoom.com

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

-Arthur C. Clarke
--