What is the value proposition for Vista?

[Charlie Wilkes]

It appears that a lot of people are having problems with Vista:

-- Doesn't support legacy software
-- 3d party drivers unavailable or unstable
-- Numerous weird glitches, e.g. -- Vista changed properties for .exe
file extension so user can't run programs, user has to re-validate
license every few days, system blue screens on bad driver and has to
be cleaned up in safe mode, system freezes right after booting up.

Anyone can get a nice-looking, slick, powerful Linux OS for free. But
most people prefer to buy Windows, because it offers superior hardware
compatibility, supports the most popular software titles, and is more
polished/less buggy.

If the consumer marketplace discovers that Vista falls short on the
core benefits that justify paying $$$ for closed source vs. free open
source... will they continue to pay anyway?

Charlie

 

[Richard Urban]

Do you have a question regarding the operation of Vista on your operating
system??

OR - are you just lonely and wasting time?

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

 

[Guest]

Do you have a question regarding the operation of Vista on your operating
system??

OR - are you just lonely and wasting time?

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Charlie seems to forget something, all the people, if not most, posting here
are using Betaversions of Vista and not the finished product.
I suppose that the RTM Vista will have conquered all this "problems".

 

[Alias]

Do you have a question regarding the operation of Vista on your
operating system??

Um, in the title, microsoft.public.windows.vista.general, I don't see
that it says *anything* about "questions" or "problems". Ergo, a comment
is perfectly fine and you are not required to either read it or comment
on it.

OR - are you just lonely and wasting time?

Speak for yourself.

Alias

 

[Alias]

It appears that a lot of people are having problems with Vista:

-- Doesn't support legacy software
-- 3d party drivers unavailable or unstable
-- Numerous weird glitches, e.g. -- Vista changed properties for .exe
file extension so user can't run programs, user has to re-validate
license every few days, system blue screens on bad driver and has to
be cleaned up in safe mode, system freezes right after booting up.

Anyone can get a nice-looking, slick, powerful Linux OS for free. But
most people prefer to buy Windows, because it offers superior hardware
compatibility, supports the most popular software titles, and is more
polished/less buggy.

If the consumer marketplace discovers that Vista falls short on the
core benefits that justify paying $$$ for closed source vs. free open
source... will they continue to pay anyway?

Charlie

I've personally convinced ten people to not buy Vista and to install Ubuntu.

Alias

 

[Brian W]

I've not had any of these problems, even with the Beta releases

 

[Richard Urban]

This newsgroup is not microsoft.public.windows.vista.bulls**t

It gets tiring to see that 10-15 posts out of 20 having nothing to do with
an actual problem.

It seems that you just come here for entertainment. How about being
constructive once in a while?

 

[Alias]

This newsgroup is not microsoft.public.windows.vista.bulls**t

No, it's "general", as in "everything".

It gets tiring to see that 10-15 posts out of 20 having nothing to do
with an actual problem.

Don't read them.

It seems that you just come here for entertainment. How about being
constructive once in a while?

I post constructive messages every day. You, OTOH, are just complaining.

Alias

 

[Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User]

Too funny.. are you going to support them?

I've personally convinced ten people to not buy Vista and to install
Ubuntu.

Alias

 

[Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User]

Charlie

Please tell us which of the Linux range is nice looking and slick..

 

[Alias]

Too funny.. are you going to support them?

As best as I can with help from someone who was using Unix back in the
70s. Do you think I am the only person I know that knows something about
computers?

Alias

 

[michail iakovou yos]

It gets tiring to see that 10-15 posts out of 20 having nothing to do with

an actual problem.

If you don't like it you can chose to not be here.

If ms had made better decisions people would
not be focusing on those mistakes, rather they would be focusing only on
bugs....

And you will only see more of such posts
as it goes on the shelves.. but then it will be mad people who paid for
something
and then found out its full of problems in design, compatibility and
concept.

 

[michail iakovou yos]

no linux is ready to take over the desktop.... and this is coming from
someone
who has used almost all distros available....

But vista has its own set of problems. I have to agree with the OP on the
things
he says about vista.

 

[MICHAEL]

Charlie seems to forget something, all the people, if not most, posting here
are using Betaversions of Vista and not the finished product.

I suppose that the RTM Vista will have conquered all this "problems".

Not hardly, not even close. In fact, I couldn't tell any difference between
RC2 and RTM. Well, there's some new system sounds. I like Vista, but
I think I've just gotten used to it after testing it for so long. I certainly wouldn't
suggest to anyone that they should move to Vista. If what they have is working
good, just wait until SP1 or SP2. WinXP is a fine OS.



-Michael

 

[MICHAEL]

This newsgroup is not microsoft.public.windows.vista.bulls**t

It gets tiring to see that 10-15 posts out of 20 having nothing to do with an actual problem.

It seems that you just come here for entertainment. How about being constructive once in a
while?

How about you *always* leaving that obnoxiously long sig out of
your posts? That would be great.

Thanks.

-Michael

 

[Alias]

no linux is ready to take over the desktop.... and this is coming from
someone
who has used almost all distros available....

Including Ubuntu 6.06?

Alias

 

[Roy Coorne]

No, it's "general", as in "everything".
...

No, it's "general" as "topics not dealt with in other groups in
m.p.w.v.*".

rOy

 

[Roy Coorne]

Alias schrieb:
....

I've personally convinced ten people to not buy Vista and to install
Ubuntu.

....

Working towards an OBE?


rOy

 

[Roy Coorne]

Including Ubuntu 6.06?

I prefer openSUSE 10.2 - especially now after the Microsoft/Sun
agreement;-)


rOy

 

[Roy Coorne]

I think I've just gotten used to it after testing it for so long. I
certainly wouldn't
suggest to anyone that they should move to Vista.
....now.

If what they have is
working
good, just wait until SP1 or SP2. WinXP is a fine OS.

FACK - Roy