what is the difference between firefox 10.0.2 and 3.6.25 for windows?

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I just got curious and tried installing FF 10 to a test
system. In general it's not too bad, but the status bar
is gone and I don't find it in about:config. The only
other problem I found was that the stop button (X)
doesn't seem to have an option to stay on the toolbar.
Hopefully it shows up when relevant, though that seems
like a poor design.

Aside from that, and a few new nags, it seems to be
pretty much the same as FF3. But personally I consider
the lack of a status bar to be an unacceptable flaw. And
I'm not going to use a browser that has to be repaired
from the start with add-ons.

One other interesting note: When I went to mozilla.org
I was unable to find the v. 10 download. Their site gets
more unusable and commercial every time I visit. I just
kept going in circles. They only wanted to offer me the
latest beta! I finally had to give up and go to their FTP
site to get the 10.0.2 installer:

http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/10.0.2/win32/
 
I just got curious and tried installing FF 10 to a test
system. In general it's not too bad, but the status bar
is gone and I don't find it in about:config. The only
other problem I found was that the stop button (X)
doesn't seem to have an option to stay on the toolbar.
Hopefully it shows up when relevant, though that seems
like a poor design.

Aside from that, and a few new nags, it seems to be
pretty much the same as FF3. But personally I consider
the lack of a status bar to be an unacceptable flaw. And
I'm not going to use a browser that has to be repaired
from the start with add-ons.

One other interesting note: When I went to mozilla.org
I was unable to find the v. 10 download. Their site gets
more unusable and commercial every time I visit. I just
kept going in circles. They only wanted to offer me the
latest beta! I finally had to give up and go to their FTP
site to get the 10.0.2 installer:

http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/10.0.2/win32/
 
Mayayana said:
I just got curious and tried installing FF 10 to a test
system. In general it's not too bad, but the status bar
is gone
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The status bar appears when it's needed. If you hover over a link or a
hyper-linked image, the link's URL will appear at the bottom of the
window. While the browser is waiting for a response from a web server,
that information is displayed at the bottom of the window. Most of the
time, that space is used for displaying the contents of the window.
Aside from that, and a few new nags, it seems to be
pretty much the same as FF3.
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It's definitely not. HTML 5 and CSS3 are coming, the latest FF knows
about that, FF3 doesn't. Lots of things that you won't know about til
you need them and find they aren't there.
I'm not going to use a browser that has to be repaired
from the start with add-ons.
Click to expand...

A browser that you can customize with the add-ons that you want.
One other interesting note: When I went to mozilla.org
I was unable to find the v. 10 download.
Click to expand...

You must be blind. There's a huge green download button on the page at
www.mozilla.org/firefox.
 
Tim said:
It's definitely not. HTML 5 and CSS3 are coming, the latest FF knows
about that, FF3 doesn't. Lots of things that you won't know about til
you need them and find they aren't there.
Click to expand...

That's a problem. Who the huckleberry needs these? It's really
annoying the way sites start pushing useless innovations.
You must be blind. There's a huge green download button on the page at
www.mozilla.org/firefox.
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The button's only if you have javascript running. There *is* a link
too, but that's almost invisible (blue on orange).
 
The status bar appears when it's needed. If you hover over a link or a
hyper-linked image, the link's URL will appear at the bottom of the
window. While the browser is waiting for a response from a web server,
that information is displayed at the bottom of the window. Most of the
time, that space is used for displaying the contents of the window.
Click to expand...

I had a similar knee jerk reaction when I saw that the status bar
behavior had changed awhile back, but I quickly grew accustomed to the
fact that it appears when I need it and disappears when it's not
needed. It's actually pretty slick.

The behavior of the Stop/Refresh button also works well.
 
| You must be blind. There's a huge green download button on the page at
| www.mozilla.org/firefox.
|

Yes, and that took me to a big orange page that
offered only a download of the beta. (I don't enable
script. It may be different for people who do. But
the site layout used to be very clear and simple.)
 
|
| The status bar appears when it's needed. If you hover over a link

I see you're right. Thanks. I didn't notice that. It's a
very odd design, though. The URL gets squeezed in
wherever it will fit, in faded gray text that's barely
noticeable.

| > Aside from that, and a few new nags, it seems to be
| >pretty much the same as FF3.
|
| It's definitely not. HTML 5 and CSS3 are coming,

That is a factor for some people. The Web is increasingly
diverging into two streams. On one side are webpages.
On the other side is interactive software. (Many Google
pages these days are almost entirely javascript.)

If one uses gmail, facebook and other highly interactive
sites -- and doesn't care about privacy -- then probably
the newer the browser, the better. If I used the Internet
that way I'd probably switch to Chrome, which is optimized
for that sort of thing.

For normal webpages none of that is very important.
First, because any webmaster who wants their pages seen
has to make sure they work in all common browsers, not
just the latest browser. Second, HTML 5 is little more than
some new media tags and a lot more javascript. It's really
become a catchphrase for "new, spiffy, highly interactive".
The actual HTML 5 spec is not so dramatic. There are
new items like "section" and "aside", but they don't change
the basic layout of pages. Such things can be done with
standard HTML 3/4 tags like DIVs, without the limited support
that HTML 5 has. No one with any sense is going to
use HTML 5-specific code for quite awhile unless they know
they have an audience that is almost completely composed of
people who want the very latest pizzazz, and who are running
a self-updating browser.
 
I have another question a year or more ago when I did an update to FF
I started getting fairly often a lot of :
A script on this page may be busy, or it may have stopped responding.
You can stop the script now, or you can continue to see if the script
will complete.

Script: chrome://browser/content/browser.js:9289

 the end scrip description varies and if I hit run it shows the dialog
box again in a short bit. What is it trying to do and is there a check
box somewhere to stop this and or would that limit my browsing
experience. I am afraid to check the don't show again for fear that it
will just keep trying to run the script and I will freeze up totally.
Does that don not show mean that or that if that particular script or
any script can not run that it will NOT! try to run it and will allow
me to move on. Does it have anything to do with having pop ups turned
off? It happens about one to two times each hour or so of browersing
the web
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To capture a video I always knew how to go to the cache in older
versions of FF and find by date and then the size of file (large) then
copy it out and add dot flv in order to save any videos on you tube or
whatever. And yes I know there are other ways to save a video but my
way was simple for viewing with my FLV player worked fine. With both
the new versions of FF and PM I now see sub folders marked 0 to 9 and
A to whatever. What is this bull! now why does it add folders. Is it a
way to organize the cache for a history? Liked the one level better
and when and why do folders get added? Also at the level of FF cache I
see a folder marked Cache(2) that is past dates and just one level.
somewhere along the line did FF make and use that folder for a bot and
now no more can I delete it?
 
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To capture a video I always knew how to go to the cache in older
versions of FF and find by date and then the size of file (large) then
copy it out and add dot flv in order to save any videos on you tube or
whatever. And yes I know there are other ways to save a video but my
way was simple for viewing with my FLV player worked fine. With both
the new versions of FF and PM I now see sub folders marked 0 to 9 and
A to whatever. What is this bull! now why does it add folders. Is it a
way to organize the cache for a history? Liked the one level better
and when and why do folders get added? Also at the level of FF cache I
see a folder marked Cache(2) that is past dates and just one level.
somewhere along the line did FF make and use that folder for a bot and
now no more can I delete it?
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Although I find the "DownloadHelper" nearly always works for capturing
videos, I've just tried Cache Viewer, and it still seems to be working
under the latest FF, so is presumably managing the multiple caches
(which I didn't know about). Mind, I do have the thing that stops
plugins stopping working at each upgrade (I think it's called Addon
Compatibility Reporter, which is its nominal purpose): IIRR Cache Viewer
would have stopped working ages ago if I hadn't.[/QUOTE]

I just tried to install cache viewer and it say will not work with FF
10.0.2.4428 any other ways to find a file in the cache?
 
what is the difference between firefox 10.0.2 and 3.6.25 for windows?
Click to expand...

One thing the docs won't tell you is that Recently Closed Windows list
still works in version 3. After that, every little window, like a
warning box or an enlargement of an Amazon product-for-sale picture
enters the list and there's no way to get rid ot it.

Do you know where can I get version 3 again??


P&M
 
http://www.oldversion.com/Mozilla-Firefox.htmlhas oodles of versions,
back to a 2 ...
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If mankind minus one were of one opinion, then mankind is no more justified in
silencing the one than the one - if he had the power - would be justifiedin
silencing mankind. -John Stuart Mill, philosopher and economist (1806-1873)
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another good site for old apps is www.oldapps.com really hate when a
company does not allow you to get to old versions flash player comes
to mind you have to get down on two knees to have them guide you to
the url to their older versions even though they say they don't have
them they do you have to get higher up and weed it out of that
superviser!
 
micky said:
One thing the docs won't tell you is that Recently Closed Windows list
still works in version 3. After that, every little window, like a
warning box or an enlargement of an Amazon product-for-sale picture
enters the list and there's no way to get rid ot it.

Do you know where can I get version 3 again??


P&M
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Installers don't work equally well "forward" and "backward".

If you install 10.0.2 over 3.6.25, you would expect the installer to
have logic to carry the profile files forward into the newer version.

But if you install 3.6.25 over 10.0.2, there is a possibility that
the file formats or contents differ in some way. Which means there
is an element of unpredictability (with any software) when
attempting to move backwards. 3.6.25 cannot know, how 10.0.2 is designed.

Paul
 
I should have added that with a large number of windows saved in the
Recently Closed Windows list, that one cannot get rid of,, it quickly
surpasses the default maxium of 5, and if you increase the max to 180,
somewhere abouve 40, it just deletes them all.
Thanks J.P., DJW, and Mayaya for the links.
Installers don't work equally well "forward" and "backward".

If you install 10.0.2 over 3.6.25, you would expect the installer to
have logic to carry the profile files forward into the newer version.

But if you install 3.6.25 over 10.0.2, there is a possibility that
the file formats or contents differ in some way. Which means there
is an element of unpredictability (with any software) when
attempting to move backwards. 3.6.25 cannot know, how 10.0.2 is designed.
Click to expand...

Thanks. I can probably live without any of that stuff, though it
would be nice if I could have both versions installed. Is that
possible, do you think?. (I used to have FireFox and Netscape
installed, both Mozilla, but of course they had different names)
 
micky said:
Thanks. I can probably live without any of that stuff, though it
would be nice if I could have both versions installed. Is that
possible, do you think?. (I used to have FireFox and Netscape
installed, both Mozilla, but of course they had different names)
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I've never tried to do it.

There's always a recipe around somewhere. Look for a few more
recipes before giving it a whirl. (Sometimes, one article
doesn't have all the details that it should, like whether
the recipe still works with Firefox 10 or not.)

http://techrena.net/install-two-versions-firefox-same-pc/

I used this in my search engine

"running two different versions of firefox"

HTH,
Paul
 
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