What is the consensus? Avoid SP1?

[Trevor]

I guess I'm hearing that SP1 should not be installed right now.

Is that what everyone is more or less saying?

My experience so far is bad.

Zone Alarm quit working and my NIC card quit working.
My Dell is only 5 months old....drivers should NOT be an issue
especially since I'm using a brand name Intel Nic .

Why would MS put SP1 up on their webpage if they knew it still has
major issues?

I don't get it....for now...I'm trying to figure out how to uninstall
it.

Grrrr..



Respectfully,

Trev

 

[PaulB]

I doubt you will get a consensus. I installed SP1 on two different computers
with no problem once I updated the drivers that were considered a problem. I
do find it a little faster. The changes to search (prompted by a potential
law suit) I don't like but there seem to be enough work-arounds on the WEB.

 

[John Barnett MVP]

I have installed on my machine (machine is 3 months old) and it installed
fine. Previous to that I installed it on my old machine (4 years old)
running Vista Ultimate and it installed fine on that too. Perhaps I am one
of the lucky ones, but even when beta testing SP1 my experience of problems
was virtually nil.

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[Don]

I guess I'm hearing that SP1 should not be installed right now.

Is that what everyone is more or less saying?

My experience so far is bad.

Zone Alarm quit working and my NIC card quit working.
My Dell is only 5 months old....drivers should NOT be an issue
especially since I'm using a brand name Intel Nic .

Why would MS put SP1 up on their webpage if they knew it still has
major issues?

I don't get it....for now...I'm trying to figure out how to uninstall
it.

Grrrr..



Respectfully,

Trev

I installed it yesterday morning, for my Vista Ultimate 64 bit, so far seems
to be working well for me.

 

[poppop3x]

I Installed it the first day. startup and shutdown are quicker. Web sites
show up quicker and no problems yet. cross my fingers lol

 

[Robert]

I installed on two seperate machines at the same time - office and home
office. Never do that again. Neither one will reboot, neither one can be
repaired with the VISTA ultimate disk, neither one will work with system
restore, which ran for 24 hours before the black screen with crazy
characters. Just did a complete reinstall of the OS and ALL programs, files
and settings 2 weeks ago. I get to do it all over again. Don't install
without a major backup. Also, the free SP1 link for Microsoft help hasn't
worked and I've tried it on 4 computers - unknown application error.

 

[PaulB]

Could be but all my explorer windows open faster.

 

[Robert]

I installed SP1 on 2 different machines this week. Neither runs now. Black
screen with useless codes - different on each. One at the home office, one
at the office. No power outages. Can't repair with VISTA Ultimate disk.
Can't roll back with system restore after it ran for 24 hours straight! And
I just installed new disks, reinstalled clean OS, apps, files and settings.
I get to do it all over again. And the free SP1 link returns the error,
"application error, try again in a few minutes." I've been trying on 4
different computers for days.

 

[Bri]

Hi, I installed on two windows machines yesterday and they are both unstable
now, I have had to reinstall on one pc and it looks like on two, driver
issues on both machines, all restore points deleted, microsoft have really
nackerd windows with this SP1.
Another disillusiond windows USER!
I installed SP1 on 2 different machines this week. Neither runs now. Black
screen with useless codes - different on each. One at the home office, one
at the office. No power outages. Can't repair with VISTA Ultimate disk.
Can't roll back with system restore after it ran for 24 hours straight! And
I just installed new disks, reinstalled clean OS, apps, files and settings.
I get to do it all over again. And the free SP1 link returns the error,
"application error, try again in a few minutes." I've been trying on 4
different computers for days.

 

[GeraldF]

I guess I'm hearing that SP1 should not be installed right now.

Is that what everyone is more or less saying?

Gopher it!
No problems here, no benefit either.
In the future you will have to be there.

 

[Don]

No problems here. The update went smoothly after I installed the most
recent drivers for my fingerprint reader.

I have only run across one issue, I think. I googled it, and not a lot of
info on it yet, but appears to be related to the Nvidia video drivers.

I am running the Nvidia 169.25 Vista 64 bit drivers, for my 8800 GTS video
card.

After SP1, I do not appear to be able to force vsync on , for 3d game (
FSX). Previously , I could.
Perhaps this is something that will be fixed in a future driver update...

Other than that, I have had no issues at all with SP1, seems to be working
very well.

 

[kevpan815]

I guess I'm hearing that SP1 should not be installed right now.

Is that what everyone is more or less saying?

My experience so far is bad.

Zone Alarm quit working and my NIC card quit working.
My Dell is only 5 months old....drivers should NOT be an issue
especially since I'm using a brand name Intel Nic .

Why would MS put SP1 up on their webpage if they knew it still has
major issues?

I don't get it....for now...I'm trying to figure out how to uninstall
it.

Grrrr..



Respectfully,

Trev

The Consensus Is 2 Either Stay With Windows XP Service Pack 2 (Avoid
Windows XP Service Pack 3 Release Candidate 2 As Well), 2 Re-Format Your
Computer And Convert Over 2 Open Source Linux Ubuntu 7.10 Release 2 Web,
And/Or 2 Re-Format Your Computer And Convert Over 2 Open Source Linux
Ubuntu 8.04 Long Term Support Official Beta, Just FYI.

 

[Don]

The Consensus Is 2 Either Stay With Windows XP Service Pack 2 (Avoid
Windows XP Service Pack 3 Release Candidate 2 As Well), 2 Re-Format Your
Computer And Convert Over 2 Open Source Linux Ubuntu 7.10 Release 2 Web,
And/Or 2 Re-Format Your Computer And Convert Over 2 Open Source Linux
Ubuntu 8.04 Long Term Support Official Beta, Just FYI.

Not hardly.

I installed Vista Ultimate 64 bit app 3 weeks ago, dual booting with XP Pro
Service Pack 2.

Rarely do I even boot into XP anymore, Vista 64 smokes it., I am very
pleased. And I was one who held off all this time, due to some things I was
reading, and of course, wanted to wait till I had 64 bit drivers available
for all my periphs I use regularly.

 

[Dave]

Downloaded the big file, took 42 minutes to install on my desktop.
No problems really. It swapped my primary/secondary monitors, but that was
easy to correct.
Took about 80 minutes to install on my wife's laptop.
No problems.

 

[Kayman]

I guess I'm hearing that SP1 should not be installed right now.

You're not hearing the full story.

Is that what everyone is more or less saying?

No, only the inexperienced.

My experience so far is bad.

It'd better if you review your software apps.

Zone Alarm quit working and my NIC card quit working.
My Dell is only 5 months old....drivers should NOT be an issue
especially since I'm using a brand name Intel Nic .
http://zonealarm.donhoover.net/uninstall.html

Why would MS put SP1 up on their webpage if they knew it still has
major issues?

The issue is your choice of installing ZA (aka Illusion ware).

I don't get it....for now...I'm trying to figure out how to uninstall
it.

No need. If you rid yourself of ZA activate the build-in fw apps.

You are not going to find anything better than the Vista FW and Vista in
itself due to the advanced features the FW and Vista are using.

"Personal Firewalls" are mostly snake-oil.
http://www.samspade.org/d/firewalls.html

Jesper's Blogs-
At Least This Snake Oil Is Free.
http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2007/07/19/at-least-this-snake-oil-is-free.aspx
Windows Firewall: the best new security feature in Vista?
http://blogs.technet.com/jesper_johansson/archive/2006/05/01/426921.aspx

Exploring The Windows Firewall.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2007/06/VistaFirewall/default.aspx
"If you try to block outbound connections from a computer that’s already
compromised, how can you be sure that the computer is really doing what you
ask? The answer: you can’t. Outbound protection is security theater—it’s a
gimmick that only gives the impression of improving your security without
doing anything that actually does improve your security. This is why
outbound protection didn’t exist in the Windows XP firewall and why it
doesn’t exist in the Windows Vista™ firewall."

Tap into the Vista firewall's advanced configuration features
http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10877-6098592.html
"...once you discover the secret of accessing its advanced configuration
settings via the MMC snap-in, you'll find it to be far more configurable
and functional. At last, Windows comes with a sophisticated personal
firewall that can be used to set up outbound rules as well as inbound, with
the ability to customize rules to fit your precise needs."
Or
Configure Vista Firewall to support outbound packet filtering
http://searchwindowssecurity.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid45_gci1247138,00.html
Or
Vista Firewall Control (Free versions available).
Protects your applications from undesirable network incoming and outgoing
activity, controls applications internet access.
http://sphinx-soft.com/Vista/

 

[Mike Hall - MVP]

I guess I'm hearing that SP1 should not be installed right now.

Is that what everyone is more or less saying?

My experience so far is bad.

Zone Alarm quit working and my NIC card quit working.
My Dell is only 5 months old....drivers should NOT be an issue
especially since I'm using a brand name Intel Nic .

Why would MS put SP1 up on their webpage if they knew it still has
major issues?

I don't get it....for now...I'm trying to figure out how to uninstall
it.

Grrrr..



Respectfully,

Trev

Some will have similar issues that people had with XP SP2 update. It pays to
ensure that the machine is as 'clean' as possible (ref malware and spyware)

There is apparently a fix for the Zonealarm issue, known before SP1 was
piped to the public and addressed by the ZoneAlarm authors.

Go to Control Panel > System > Device Manager. Open up the Network adapter
section, right click on the adapter, and select the option to update the
driver..

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[David B. Mathews]

Where did you find new drivers for your fingerprint reader? Mine is the
Microsoft reader and 2.01 is the latest I have found and they have been out
for at least 6 months?
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[David B. Mathews]

It has made my computer a whole lot better than before. Nothing big but
just a lot of little things.
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[DarkSentinel]

I guess I'm hearing that SP1 should not be installed right now.

Is that what everyone is more or less saying?

My experience so far is bad.

Zone Alarm quit working and my NIC card quit working.
My Dell is only 5 months old....drivers should NOT be an issue
especially since I'm using a brand name Intel Nic .

Why would MS put SP1 up on their webpage if they knew it still has
major issues?

I don't get it....for now...I'm trying to figure out how to uninstall
it.

Grrrr..

Zero problems. Bout 35-40 mins total. One reboot. Boots a bit faster.
Explorer and proggies open a bit faster. Just improved slightly what was
already running perfect.

 

[Alias]

Zero problems. Bout 35-40 mins total. One reboot. Boots a bit faster.
Explorer and proggies open a bit faster. Just improved slightly what was
already running perfect.

Nothing runs *perfectly*, even your grammar. Telling someone who is
having problems that your computer is running "perfect" doesn't help much.

Alias