What happened to all the MSVP's and good help?

[Sam]

I remember years ago, before we had XP, I would come the Microsoft
newsgroups and get all sorts of great information on problems or Windows
issues. The people really knew their stuff.

But, now, I have posted many times that I have upgraded to XP and I either
received no replies or the *few* that I got never rectified anything . I
have yet to resolve any of XP issues from these XP newsgroups. What a
SHAME!

Where did all the good help go??

 

[Chris Lanier]

The MVP's do a great job posting help all the time.

I took a look at your last question

**? MSVP's or anyone - IE6 and unable to display graphic boxes**
-you say you have installed and uninstalled SP2. SP2 is not out for
Internet Explorer or Windows XP, that could be part of your problem.

You many also try deleting your temporary internet files. also set IE to
always downloaded the page and not use tempory internet files.

 

[Steve]

There are over 1000+ posts to this NG every day. People get busy, and those
that aren't, perhaps are guessing in order to be of some help. Everybody is
trying.

BTW. What problems have you and I will try my best?

PS One question at a time please.

 

[Guest]

There are many, many posts with the same questions coming back again &
again.
No wonder that even the most helpful people start ignoring them after some
time.
People should at least do some reading before to post their question as if
they are the only ones on earth with this problem.
I do find most of the answers to my questions by reading the news group and
by visiting the extremely useful web sites of the MVPs.

 

[mb]

I remember years ago, before we had XP, I would come the Microsoft
newsgroups and get all sorts of great information on problems or Windows
issues. The people really knew their stuff.

But, now, I have posted many times that I have upgraded to XP and I either
received no replies or the *few* that I got never rectified anything . I
have yet to resolve any of XP issues from these XP newsgroups. What a
SHAME!

Where did all the good help go??

Why don't you try to find your oen answers before posting? And stop
complaining, people answering questions here don't get paid for it you know,
it's entirely voluntary. Maybe you should remember that.

 

[Gene K]

Hey the advice is free. Perhaps your problems are not clearly stated, are
posted to the wrong Newsgroup, or the same problem has been posted by many
others and answered so many times that everyone expects you to search it
down yourself. They ain't but so much time in a day. Sometimes problems can
result from multiple causes that sometimes are not obvious to anybody. I am
not an expert nor MVP but when I can I try to assist anyone. That is about
the best you can expect from all.
Gene K

 

[Sam]

I appreciate your efforts. It's unfair to leave the most of the
responsibility to you.
Looks like most everyone else left or is focussing on the other operating
systems. Perhaps that says something about XP? Hmm.

S


: An MVP I ain't. However, if I read a heading, than the message, I'll
reply
: if:
: 1) I know or can determine the answer, and
: 2) if others have not already answered it.
:
: I average five hours a day on here; half the time is devoted to these xp
: groups. I enjoy it but time is limited--for all of us. Look at the
: websites others have up. Kellys Korner is a treasure trove. I have not
had
: the time to really look at the others.
:
: Finally, don't give up. We all honestly hope you find answers and strive
to
: provide them.
:
: Malv
:
:

 

[PA Bear]

What happened to newsgroup posters responding to replies (let alone being
able to find their way back to their posts)? Many knowledgeable posters
here have been discouraged by answering the same questions over and over
again with no feedback whatsoever, and by initial posts lacking the basic
information needed to even begin trying to help.

Help us help you. Read previous posts (and replies) and make a good post to
an appropriate newsgroup:
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
--
HTH...Please post back to this thread

~Robear Dyer (aka PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

 

[Malvern]

Your appreciation is appreciated. But face it; I'm a minnow in a huge tank
here. Just doin' what I can

Malv

 

[Sam]

:
: Why don't you try to find your oen answers before posting? And stop
: complaining, people answering questions here don't get paid for it you
know,
: it's entirely voluntary. Maybe you should remember that.

Don't be a dumb ass. The only reason "I" am posting because none of the
reported fixes using Google and Google Groups have worked. Not everyone is
lazy. Maybe you should remember that.

 

[Sam]

Right, but does the poster have to write in detail everything that he has
done to try to resolve this issue? Or would it be easier for all to have a
suggestion be posted? I think if you look at my original post, you could
decipher that I am not a novice user or maybe you couldn't?

Isn't it safe to assume that in a medium such as this, that there will be
duplicate requests for the same problems and that's the "nature of the
beast". In my case, I have looked back and tried to find a fix, but nothing
has worked. So, again, I post.

FWIW, I have posted comments like "do a search on google, the answer lies
there". I think that would be courteous and fair, don't you?



: What happened to newsgroup posters responding to replies (let alone being
: able to find their way back to their posts)? Many knowledgeable posters
: here have been discouraged by answering the same questions over and over
: again with no feedback whatsoever, and by initial posts lacking the basic
: information needed to even begin trying to help.
:
: Help us help you. Read previous posts (and replies) and make a good post
to
: an appropriate newsgroup:
: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
: --
: HTH...Please post back to this thread
:
: ~Robear Dyer (aka PA Bear)
: MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE)
: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
:
: Sam wrote:
: >> I remember years ago, before we had XP, I would come the Microsoft
: >> newsgroups and get all sorts of great information on problems or
: >> Windows issues. The people really knew their stuff.
: >>
: >> But, now, I have posted many times that I have upgraded to XP and
: >> I either received no replies or the *few* that I got never
: >> rectified anything . I have yet to resolve any of XP issues from
: >> these XP newsgroups. What a SHAME!
: >>
: >> Where did all the good help go??
:

 

[Kelly]

I recall years ago these MS groups had thousands of posts as well, but >
the MSVP's or others would respond much more readily. Now, I look at > the
number of replies and suggestions and it is definitely less >compared to
several years ago.

No, there were never thousands of posts per day for any particular MS
Newsgroup years ago. XP General gets a thousand a day. And the correct
term is: MS-MVP's.
/top10faqs.htm

You could be right . Perhaps I should've posted in the IE 6 newsgroup.
However, I have only seen this issue with Windows XP while my Windows 98
partition has absolutely no problem whatsover. I repaired XP and reinstalled
with no effect. Hence, I posted my question here.

I recall years ago these MS groups had thousands of posts as well, but the
MSVP's or others would respond much more readily. Now, I look at the number
of replies and suggestions and it is definitely less compared to several
years ago.

If I wasn't clear in my previous post- on many web pages, the small gifs or
graphics don't appear. A small placeholder is all that shows or an X. Only
when I <right click, show image> does it appear and subsequenty those
underneath. A good example, but [not limited] to is the following web site
(scroll to the news area):

www.cknw.com


: Hey the advice is free. Perhaps your problems are not clearly stated, are
: posted to the wrong Newsgroup, or the same problem has been posted by many
: others and answered so many times that everyone expects you to search it
: down yourself. They ain't but so much time in a day. Sometimes problems
can
: result from multiple causes that sometimes are not obvious to anybody. I
am
: not an expert nor MVP but when I can I try to assist anyone. That is about
: the best you can expect from all.
: Gene K
:
: mb wrote:
: > : >> I remember years ago, before we had XP, I would come the Microsoft
: >> newsgroups and get all sorts of great information on problems or
: >> Windows issues. The people really knew their stuff.
: >>
: >> But, now, I have posted many times that I have upgraded to XP and
: >> I either received no replies or the *few* that I got never
: >> rectified anything . I have yet to resolve any of XP issues from
: >> these XP newsgroups. What a SHAME!
: >>
: >> Where did all the good help go??
: >>
: >>
: >
: > Why don't you try to find your oen answers before posting? And stop
: > complaining, people answering questions here don't get paid for it
: > you know, it's entirely voluntary. Maybe you should remember that.
:
:

 

[Kelly]

Right, but does the poster have to write in detail everything that he has

done to try to resolve this issue?

Yes, that would be a plus in the right direction.

 

[Kelly]

I'm glad to hear that. But, even with the some of the comments by >MSVP's
one can tell of an "attitude" in their writing. It's no wonder that >people
can't get answers to their questions.

I think the tables are turned here in your case and you are probably right
for the latter.
/top10faqs.htm

 

[Sam]

: > I recall years ago these MS groups had thousands of posts as well, but >
: the MSVP's or others would respond much more readily. Now, I look at >
the
: number of replies and suggestions and it is definitely less >compared to
: several years ago.
:
: No, there were never thousands of posts per day for any particular MS
: Newsgroup years ago. XP General gets a thousand a day. And the correct
: term is: MS-MVP's.

Correction, around a thousand posts handled by MS-MVP's ;-)

 

[Kelly]

Ah, that and more. Thanks for the correction, Sam.

/top10faqs.htm

 

[Sam]

Are you guys and gals actually going to read everything I write and then
reply?? Or instead just move on to another post? I see no point if you are
not going to to reply.

I guess I am different when I reply to people asking questions. I reply and
ask questions, like have you tried this? Then await for a reply back.

Often, in my experience in the XP groups is that if I reply back, no other
solution is given. If you or the MS-MVPS are going to help, then I think
you should follow-through with a follow-up.

Just my 1/2 cents from "my side of the table".

: > Right, but does the poster have to write in detail everything that he
has
: > done to try to resolve this issue?
:
: Yes, that would be a plus in the right direction.
:
:

 

[Kelly]

Sam,

Your subject line made a profound statement and that is what I have replied
to, nothing more, nothing less. If you have ever followed my work then you
wouldn't have to ask, in part:

"I reply and ask questions, like have you tried this? Then await for a
reply "back.

/top10faqs.htm

 

[Jim Macklin]

I am NOT a MS-MVP but I do post what I hope are useful
suggestions. I even ask a question on occasion.

If the poster asks a question without details of what, when,
a problem happens and what steps they have already tried
they are more likely to be ignored or else asked to detail
what and when.
Stuff that is needed to be known to troubleshoot (IMHO)
hardware
software
when does the problem happen, is it the same every time.
did it ever work properly or did it begin to malfunction
[and then what software or hardware was added about that
time]
tell us what you've tried and hasn't worked so we can move
to next step.

Use some form of grammar and words that we can understand
without too many guesses.


| Are you guys and gals actually going to read everything I
write and then
| reply?? Or instead just move on to another post? I see
no point if you are
| not going to to reply.
|
| I guess I am different when I reply to people asking
questions. I reply and
| ask questions, like have you tried this? Then await for a
reply back.
|
| Often, in my experience in the XP groups is that if I
reply back, no other
| solution is given. If you or the MS-MVPS are going to
help, then I think
| you should follow-through with a follow-up.
|
| Just my 1/2 cents from "my side of the table".
|
| | : > Right, but does the poster have to write in detail
everything that he
| has
| : > done to try to resolve this issue?
| :
| : Yes, that would be a plus in the right direction.
| :
| :
|
|

 

[PA Bear]

Yes. Would you work on your car for 2 weeks trying everything/anything to
fix it and then think an unpaid mechanic would try to fix it if you don't
tell him what you'd already done?

If you're talking about "How to creatg XP Boot/Setup Compact Disk (CD)", I'd
beg to differ with you.

And nobody, including you, has the right to act like a petulant child,
insisting that an MVP or anyone else reply to a post.