What about F-Secure?

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hal

I dropped another AV product for F-Secure. I was wondering what other
F-Secure users think of the product. Any problems I should watch for?
How well does it protect against Trojans?

I'm using the new AV 2004 ver. 4.71
 
J

Jeffrey A. Setaro

I dropped another AV product for F-Secure. I was wondering what other
F-Secure users think of the product.

I'm quite happy with it... I've been using on 150 servers &
workstation for roughly five years now with no complaints.
Any problems I should watch for?

The occasional false positive is the only thing I can think of.
How well does it protect against Trojans?

FSAVs Trojan detection is pretty (very) good... As an aside you really
need to stop thinking of anti-virus as "protection" it's not... It is
a risk mitigation tool that's all. If you're expecting FSAV to protect
you you're headed for a fall.

Anti-virus software is by its very nature reactionary and can only
"protect" against what it already knows. Relying on anti-virus
software to protect you from viruses is a little like hiring Willie
Sutton to guard a bank. . . it looks good on the surface but in
reality all it does is offer a false sense of security.

That's not to say you shouldn't use anti-virus software. Anti-virus
software should be a part of your overall defense strategy, but it
should not be a replacement for the zealous practice of Safe Hex.

You really should take a few minutes to read the following pages:
<http://www.claymania.com/prevent.html> &
I'm using the new AV 2004 ver. 4.71

FSAV Client Security 5.52 sr1 here.
 
H

hal

I'm quite happy with it... I've been using on 150 servers &
workstation for roughly five years now with no complaints.


The occasional false positive is the only thing I can think of.


FSAVs Trojan detection is pretty (very) good... As an aside you really
need to stop thinking of anti-virus as "protection" it's not... It is
a risk mitigation tool that's all. If you're expecting FSAV to protect
you you're headed for a fall.

Anti-virus software is by its very nature reactionary and can only
"protect" against what it already knows. Relying on anti-virus
software to protect you from viruses is a little like hiring Willie
Sutton to guard a bank. . . it looks good on the surface but in
reality all it does is offer a false sense of security.

That's not to say you shouldn't use anti-virus software. Anti-virus
software should be a part of your overall defense strategy, but it
should not be a replacement for the zealous practice of Safe Hex.

You really should take a few minutes to read the following pages:
<http://www.claymania.com/prevent.html> &


FSAV Client Security 5.52 sr1 here.

I've been around for 5-6 years, so I know the story pretty well. I just
wanted to make sure that F-Secure could be trusted when really needed.

For about a year I've been using the freebie Kerio firewall and find it
quite sufficient for my needs.

My previous AV was KAVP. I got tired of their bad updates and absolutely
lousy tech support.

Thanks for answering.
 
J

Jan Il

Jeffrey A. Setaro said:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 07:30:47 -0500, (e-mail address removed) wrote: [snip]
As an aside you really
need to stop thinking of anti-virus as "protection" it's not... It is
a risk mitigation tool that's all. If you're expecting FSAV to protect
you you're headed for a fall.

Anti-virus software is by its very nature reactionary and can only
"protect" against what it already knows. Relying on anti-virus
software to protect you from viruses is a little like hiring Willie
Sutton to guard a bank. . . it looks good on the surface but in
reality all it does is offer a false sense of security.

That's not to say you shouldn't use anti-virus software. Anti-virus
software should be a part of your overall defense strategy, but it
should not be a replacement for the zealous practice of Safe Hex.

Careful.....your assessment of what an AV is primarily all about is heresy
in this group. But, as another heretic, I agree with you. :)

Jan :)
 
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null

Jeffrey A. Setaro said:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 07:30:47 -0500, (e-mail address removed) wrote: [snip]

As an aside you really
need to stop thinking of anti-virus as "protection" it's not... It is
a risk mitigation tool that's all. If you're expecting FSAV to protect
you you're headed for a fall.

Anti-virus software is by its very nature reactionary and can only
"protect" against what it already knows. Relying on anti-virus
software to protect you from viruses is a little like hiring Willie
Sutton to guard a bank. . . it looks good on the surface but in
reality all it does is offer a false sense of security.

That's not to say you shouldn't use anti-virus software. Anti-virus
software should be a part of your overall defense strategy, but it
should not be a replacement for the zealous practice of Safe Hex.

Careful.....your assessment of what an AV is primarily all about is heresy
in this group. But, as another heretic, I agree with you. :)

Since when is it heresy in this group?


Art
http://www.epix.net/~artnpeg
 
M

me

Jan said:
Jeffrey A. Setaro said:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 07:30:47 -0500, (e-mail address removed) wrote: [snip]
As an aside you really
need to stop thinking of anti-virus as "protection" it's not... It is
a risk mitigation tool that's all. If you're expecting FSAV to protect
you you're headed for a fall.

Anti-virus software is by its very nature reactionary and can only
"protect" against what it already knows. Relying on anti-virus
software to protect you from viruses is a little like hiring Willie
Sutton to guard a bank. . . it looks good on the surface but in
reality all it does is offer a false sense of security.

That's not to say you shouldn't use anti-virus software. Anti-virus
software should be a part of your overall defense strategy, but it
should not be a replacement for the zealous practice of Safe Hex.

Careful.....your assessment of what an AV is primarily all about is heresy
in this group. But, as another heretic, I agree with you. :)

Jan :)

WAG: Jeffrey'll be thrilled by your approval. :/ <jk>

J
 
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FromTheRafters

Jan Il said:
Jeffrey A. Setaro said:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 07:30:47 -0500, (e-mail address removed) wrote: [snip]
As an aside you really
need to stop thinking of anti-virus as "protection" it's not... It is
a risk mitigation tool that's all. If you're expecting FSAV to protect
you you're headed for a fall.

Anti-virus software is by its very nature reactionary and can only
"protect" against what it already knows. Relying on anti-virus
software to protect you from viruses is a little like hiring Willie
Sutton to guard a bank. . . it looks good on the surface but in
reality all it does is offer a false sense of security.

That's not to say you shouldn't use anti-virus software. Anti-virus
software should be a part of your overall defense strategy, but it
should not be a replacement for the zealous practice of Safe Hex.

Careful.....your assessment of what an AV is primarily all about is heresy
in this group. But, as another heretic, I agree with you. :)

I think that if you were to quiz him, you would find his idea of the
primary function of AV is more in line with "prevention" than with
post infection "cleanup". ;o)
 
J

Jeffrey A. Setaro

Jan Il said:
Jeffrey A. Setaro said:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 07:30:47 -0500, (e-mail address removed) wrote: [snip]
As an aside you really
need to stop thinking of anti-virus as "protection" it's not... It is
a risk mitigation tool that's all. If you're expecting FSAV to protect
you you're headed for a fall.

Anti-virus software is by its very nature reactionary and can only
"protect" against what it already knows. Relying on anti-virus
software to protect you from viruses is a little like hiring Willie
Sutton to guard a bank. . . it looks good on the surface but in
reality all it does is offer a false sense of security.

That's not to say you shouldn't use anti-virus software. Anti-virus
software should be a part of your overall defense strategy, but it
should not be a replacement for the zealous practice of Safe Hex.

Careful.....your assessment of what an AV is primarily all about is heresy
in this group. But, as another heretic, I agree with you. :)

I think that if you were to quiz him, you would find his idea of the
primary function of AV is more in line with "prevention" than with
post infection "cleanup". ;o)

Ding... Ding... Ding... Give that man a cheap cigar. :)
 
J

Jan Il

FromTheRafters said:
Jeffrey A. Setaro said:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 07:30:47 -0500, (e-mail address removed) wrote: [snip]
As an aside you really
need to stop thinking of anti-virus as "protection" it's not... It is
a risk mitigation tool that's all. If you're expecting FSAV to protect
you you're headed for a fall.

Anti-virus software is by its very nature reactionary and can only
"protect" against what it already knows. Relying on anti-virus
software to protect you from viruses is a little like hiring Willie
Sutton to guard a bank. . . it looks good on the surface but in
reality all it does is offer a false sense of security.

That's not to say you shouldn't use anti-virus software. Anti-virus
software should be a part of your overall defense strategy, but it
should not be a replacement for the zealous practice of Safe Hex.

Careful.....your assessment of what an AV is primarily all about is heresy
in this group. But, as another heretic, I agree with you. :)

I think that if you were to quiz him, you would find his idea of the
primary function of AV is more in line with "prevention" than with
post infection "cleanup". ;o)

<G>
 

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