WGA Questions

[Vagabond Software]

Academic or Retail?

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I have never used an academic version/license of any product.

carl

 

[kurttrail]

I have never used an academic version/license of any product.

Then retail?

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[Vagabond Software]

Then retail?

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Yes. I bought my copy of Office from Amazon and I bought my Visual Studio .NET Enterprise Architect directly from Microsoft.

carl

 

[kurttrail]

Yes. I bought my copy of Office from Amazon and I bought my Visual
Studio .NET Enterprise Architect directly from Microsoft.

Then you paid a lot of money for MS's slightly looser licensing terms.

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[Vagabond Software]

Then you paid a lot of money for MS's slightly looser licensing terms.

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Many people pay extra for the options they desire. I paid just under $300 for Office (Upgrade) and $29 for Visual Studio .NET 2003 Enterprise Edition (Upgrade). First, I defy anyone to provide the same number of licenses for those products at a better price. Paying $329 to install Office Professional and Visual Studio .NET 2003 Enterprise Edition on two computers doesn't seem particularly egregious. In fact, I'd call that one hell of a bargain.

You might be able to come close on the Office Professional with the $169 OEM versions, but you can't touch the Studio.

carl

 

[kurttrail]

Many people pay extra for the options they desire. I paid just under
$300 for Office (Upgrade) and $29 for Visual Studio .NET 2003
Enterprise Edition (Upgrade). First, I defy anyone to provide the
same number of licenses for those products at a better price. Paying
$329 to install Office Professional and Visual Studio .NET 2003
Enterprise Edition on two computers doesn't seem particularly
egregious. In fact, I'd call that one hell of a bargain.

You might be able to come close on the Office Professional with the
$169 OEM versions, but you can't touch the Studio.

That is more than half the price of full retail Office.


And how much did you pay for the qualifying media to install the
upgrades?

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[kurttrail]

That is more than half the price of full retail Office.

I meant OEM is less than half, not more.

And how much did you pay for the qualifying media to install the
upgrades?

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[Vagabond Software]

That is more than half the price of full retail Office.


And how much did you pay for the qualifying media to install the
upgrades?

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That price for Office is about half the retail price and includes a Frontpage 2003 Upgrade, which I had to buy separately. My Office 2000 Premium Edition came with Frontpage 2000 included. IIRC, I paid around $250 for an Office Premium upgrade from Office 95.

The Visual Studio .NET 2003 Enterprise Architect retails for over $1,000, so I don't believe paying $29 for the software is much to complain about. I paid $495 plus some shipping to get the qualifying upgrade. So, altogether, my total purchase price is still well below the retail price.

I don't bother buying OS upgrades because I'm not offered the same licensing/installation options, so it's not worth the retail price. I purchased Windows 95B OEM with a new PC (unassembled). I didn't bother with Windows 98 since it offered no functionality, other than USB, than Windows 95B. In 2000, I went out and bought the full retail version of Windows ME for around $189 or something in that area. I bought an OEM version of Windows 2000 Professional. A friend bought me a full retail version of Windows XP Professional, which I use on my laptop, and I bought another OEM copy of Windows XP Professional for this computer.

Had my friend not purchased XP for me, I would very likely still be using Windows 2000. As you can see, I'm not a "gotta have the latest" kind of buyer. My car is a 1996 and I have no plans on buying another one until this one is no longer useful. I apply the same logic to computer hardware and software.

I still don't know why paying someone the asking price for the fruit of their labor is such a bad thing.

carl

 

[kurttrail]

That price for Office is about half the retail price and includes a
Frontpage 2003 Upgrade, which I had to buy separately. My Office
2000 Premium Edition came with Frontpage 2000 included. IIRC, I paid
around $250 for an Office Premium upgrade from Office 95.

The Visual Studio .NET 2003 Enterprise Architect retails for over
$1,000, so I don't believe paying $29 for the software is much to
complain about. I paid $495 plus some shipping to get the qualifying
upgrade. So, altogether, my total purchase price is still well below
the retail price.

I don't bother buying OS upgrades because I'm not offered the same
licensing/installation options, so it's not worth the retail price.
I purchased Windows 95B OEM with a new PC (unassembled). I didn't
bother with Windows 98 since it offered no functionality, other than
USB, than Windows 95B. In 2000, I went out and bought the full
retail version of Windows ME for around $189 or something in that
area. I bought an OEM version of Windows 2000 Professional. A
friend bought me a full retail version of Windows XP Professional,
which I use on my laptop, and I bought another OEM copy of Windows XP
Professional for this computer.

Had my friend not purchased XP for me, I would very likely still be
using Windows 2000. As you can see, I'm not a "gotta have the
latest" kind of buyer. My car is a 1996 and I have no plans on
buying another one until this one is no longer useful. I apply the
same logic to computer hardware and software.

I still don't know why paying someone the asking price for the fruit
of their labor is such a bad thing.

I didn't say that. I believe all consumers should pay for their
software, that is a "fair return" to the copyright owner. And I believe
once the individual non-commercial consumer pays that "fair return,"
they have the right to "fairly use" their software in the privacy of
their homes. Post-sale commercial-use shrinkwrap licenses be damned.
If a copyright owner wants to deny individuals of their "fair use"
rights, then they shouldn't sell the software to them, because no
copyright owner has any business or right to know how their copyrighted
material is being used in the privacy of anybodies home!

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