WGA False-Positive - a legally purchased copy reports that it's not genuine

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Stefan said:
Should this issue produce loss of data, damage to the hardware equipment
should I consider contacting my legal advisor?

Don't bother. If you read the MickeyMouse EULA you'll probably come across
a "Disclaimer" that protects MickeyMouse when it releases buggy and
dangerous software.
I've sent an email to Microsoft about this issue via the contact form on
their website.

Do let us know whether you receive anything but a templated form letter.
Is there anything I can do?

Sure. Stop using this crippled toy operating system and start using a real
operating system like Ubuntu.
Is any Microsoft staff reading
this newsgroup?
They can read?
Stefan Neagu
(e-mail address removed)
http://stefan.neagu.googlepages.com/

Love and Kisses,
Doris

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Richard said:
You recently installed an update for your SATA drivers, right. That will
cause this.
What a joke! MickeyMouse sure can be one funny ripoff corporation when it
wants to. Eventually, people, other than the BallmerBumBois, will catch on
and look for an alternative. No response necessary, as we already know what
you'll say. <snort>

Love and Kisses,
Doris

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BallmerBumBois: Frank, Julian, Richard Urban, Jupiter Jones, Harry Krause,
Feliks Dzerzhinsky
Sorry if I missed anyone, place your name here _________________.
 
Michael said:
Did you move the mouse? ;)

Remember this only applies to those Wintards that use a Microsoft Mouse
and "intellipoint" software.

Love and Kisses,
Doris

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Installing: Windows vs Linux ... http://tinyurl.com/ywqmbw
BallmerBumBois: Frank, Julian, Richard Urban, Jupiter Jones, Harry Krause,
Feliks Dzerzhinsky
Sorry if I missed anyone, place your name here _________________.
 
KDE said:
"..should I consider contacting my legal advisor?"

sweet ! YES ! call your $400/hour attorney, and start legal proceedings
against one of the largest corporations in the world, instead of making a
5
min free phone call to fix the problem. God Bless America !

You just don't get it do you? He shouldn't have to make the 5 minute phone
call in the first place. That is plenty of reason to call an attorney.

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Stephan
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Doris said:
Remember this only applies to those Wintards that use a Microsoft Mouse
and "intellipoint" software.

Ya know that reminds me. XP can never appear to remember what keyboard I
have. I actually use an MS Japanese keyboard and at random, when I log into
XP...it may be configured as Japanese. Sometimes it is configured as
Chinese though. On occasion it is also configured as US. It's not system
specific as it happens on two different XP systems.

It's like "Hmmm...let's see...what layout will Windows give me today"
everytime I boot into it.

The physical keyboard actually is nice though. That is one thing I do have
to give credit for, they got that one right.

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Stephan
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Look again, that is the Product ID and not the Product Key.
AFAIK, there is no way for someone to get the key from the Product ID
and thus install Windows using the key.

However I would also never post the Product ID for other reasons.
 
Sure there is, if he wants to throw money down the drain. Fighting
MicroSquish will cost bundles o-Cash, even if he is right, it's a losing
battle.
 
Bill said:
Sure there is, if he wants to throw money down the drain. Fighting
MicroSquish will cost bundles o-Cash, even if he is right, it's a losing
battle.

Yea that is a problem with the US Injustice system. Doesn't matter who is
right or wrong, only matters who has more money.

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I never said that Microsoft's Activation mess was right, or that I wasn't
sympathetic to his situation, I've had to re-activate my own copy twice in
the past 3 months and it is a pain in the A$$. I was simply very amused at
the "knee-jerk" reaction to get a lawyer, spend years and years, and
thousands of dollars, to accomplish absolutely nothing, when a 5 minute call
(although a giant pain) would just solve it.
 
There are Some Illegal Website's Around that allow Pirate's to Decipher the
Product Key that you are Using, If They Obtain Your Product ID, Just FYI.
 
Yes you are right. A 5 minute call in the scheme of things wouldn't be that
big of a deal and it amusing what people would call lawyers over. Humm, I
remember some lady spilling McDonald's coffee in her lap and sued McDonald's
for tons of cash. (Wait a minute, she won that case!)

Sometimes you just have to let-go and get on with life.
 
or the guy that cut his finger opening a can of tuna-fish, or the old lady
that put out her eye opening a bottle of soda pop that she had shaken up.
;-). we had a customer sue my company because the guy borrowed a tape
measure from one of our employees and then cut his finger with it.
 
Stefan said:
Using Windows Vista for 2 years in beta and 3 months of using the RTM I
never had this problem before. I have a legally purchased Windows Vista
Ultimate license and until today it worked; now, the system reports that
"this copy of Windows is not genuine".
I have used this system since February, with no glitch, when I installed it
it activated.
However Aero, ReadyBoost and other features that should have been
deactivated work seamlessly. When I go into Control Panel>System it says:
Windows is activated.
The system is up-to-date with Automatic Updates, permanently connected to
the net(broadband connection;T1 LAN), has AVG and Commodo Firewall.
This system is very important as it stores sensitive corporate information
as well as family photographs, videos and iTunes music library.
I have posted a screenshot of this problem on Flickr:
http://flickr.com/photos/neasteflorin/513358043/
I can provide more information, if needed.
Should this issue produce loss of data, damage to the hardware equipment
should I consider contacting my legal advisor?
I've sent an email to Microsoft about this issue via the contact form on
their website. Is there anything I can do?Is any Microsoft staff reading
this newsgroup?

Stefan Neagu
(e-mail address removed)
http://stefan.neagu.googlepages.com/

Hi Stefan.

You'll need to try to remove the 'critical windows update' KB905474
WGAN. You can google for removal instructions. This is the buggy DRM
from MS causing you this problem.

Yet another example of how MS insults paying customers, and how their
DRM garbage does nothing to stop piracy, but only inconveniences paying
customers.

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You recently installed an update for your SATA drivers, right. That will
cause this.

According to this MS white paper with technical details behind the XP
implementation of WPA (which I assume should be quite similar to Vista's.
I could see it being slightly more restrictive, but come on...), that
activation is based on the below 10 hardware devices.

Display Adapter
SCSI Adapter
IDE Adapter
Network Adapter MAC Address
RAM Amount Range (i.e. 0-64mb, 64-128mb, etc)
Processor Type
Processor Serial Number
Hard Drive Device
Hard Drive Volume Serial Number
CD—ROM / CD-RW / DVD-ROM

I fail to see why a software-only driver should trigger re-activation.

(FYI, here is the white paper: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-
us/library/509c95b4-3071-7e49-888b-b0fc6ce05fd8.aspx#EDAA)

The below is cut & pasted directly from that white paper. MS offers
different scenarios as to hardware changes and what WPA should do with
that.

WARNING: TO EVERYONE THAT CAN THINK FOR THEMSELVES, THE SCENARIO'S/WPA
RESULTS BELOW ARE SO FUNNY THAT YOU MAY END UP HAVING TO CHANGE YOUR
SHORTS.....AS WE'VE ALL SEEN, THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NOT HOW WPA
WORKS..........


Scenario A:

PC One has the full assortment of hardware components listed in Table 1
above. User swaps the motherboard and CPU chip for an upgraded one, swaps
the video adapter, adds a second hard drive for additional storage,
doubles the amount of RAM, and swaps the CD ROM drive for a faster one.

Result: Reactivation is NOT required.

Scenario B:

PC Two has the full assortment of hardware components listed in Table 1
except that it has no network adapter. User doubles the amount of RAM,
swaps the video card and the SCSI controller.

Result: Reactivation is NOT required.



Dockable PCs are treated slightly more leniently. In a dockable PC, if a
network adapter exists and is not changed, 9 or more of the other above
values would have to change before reactivation was required. If no
network adapter exists or the existing one is changed, 7 or more changes
(including the network adapter) will result in a requirement to
reactivate.

Scenario C:

Dockable PC Three has the full assortment of hardware components listed
in Table 1 except that it has no network adapter. User doubles the amount
of RAM, swaps to a bigger hard disk drive, and adds a network adapter.

Result: Reactivation is NOT required.
 
When you install the SATA driver update and reboot, the hard drive is seen
in an entirely different light apparently. There is enough difference for
the operating system to think that it is installed on a new hard drive. The
operating system apparently does not know how to handle this condition -
hence the fact that you are still activated (and will test as such) but the
system fails WGA validation.

I have not found a work around for this. I ended up going back to an image
from the day before I installed this wayward update to bypass the condition.

This will happen even if you install the update obtained directly from
Silicon Image.

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
I don't think there is a problem, my screen looks the same. That logo for
WGA is always there. And it clearly says it's activated.
 
Darkelldar said:
I don't think there is a problem, my screen looks the same. That logo
for WGA is always there. And it clearly says it's activated.

What do you mean? You don't think there is a problem with what?


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"Spoken like a true NixTurd (oops, NixTard)."

"Good poets borrow; great poets steal."
- T. S. Eliot
 
Richard said:
When you install the SATA driver update and reboot, the hard drive is
seen in an entirely different light apparently. There is enough
difference for the operating system to think that it is installed on a
new hard drive. The operating system apparently does not know how to
handle this condition - hence the fact that you are still activated (and
will test as such) but the system fails WGA validation.

I have not found a work around for this. I ended up going back to an
image from the day before I installed this wayward update to bypass the
condition.

This will happen even if you install the update obtained directly from
Silicon Image.

So you're finally finding out that WGA is flawed and only serves to
inconvenience paying customers and does nothing to stop piracy? Or not?

Alias
 
Alias. PLEASE!

I told you three weeks ago that WGA is flawed (in my opinion) and that this
should not happen to ANYONE. You even responded directly to my post.

Can you not remember ***anything***?

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
Richard said:
Alias. PLEASE!

I told you three weeks ago that WGA is flawed (in my opinion) and that
this should not happen to ANYONE. You even responded directly to my post.

Can you not remember ***anything***?

OK, my bad, and I apologize. I must be getting old ...

Alias
 

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