WGA Does it work?

[Joey]

I have a few friends that have pirated copies of Win XP Pro and they can
actually pass the Windows Genuine Advantage test. I thought this was
suppose to detect piracy. What is Microsoft going to do about this?

I am a little angry that I paid full retail price and my friends did
not. I suppose I paid to kept my morals and conscience in place.

 

[Shenan Stanley]

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I have a few friends that have pirated copies of Win XP Pro and they
can actually pass the Windows Genuine Advantage test. I thought this
was suppose to detect piracy. What is Microsoft going to do about
this?

Microsoft has done all they can do at this time. The "pirated" copies your
friends have are unreported numbers - thus it passes the tests. It is
software after all - if there is a way to protect it, there is a way to get
around that protection on stand-alone software installs.

I am a little angry that I paid full retail price and my friends did
not. I suppose I paid to kept my morals and conscience in place.

Your morals and conscience mustn't be as strong as you imply, as you didn't
do what your friends did but you choose to allow your friends to do it.
*grin*

 

[Beck]

I have a few friends that have pirated copies of Win XP Pro and they can
actually pass the Windows Genuine Advantage test. I thought this was
suppose to detect piracy. What is Microsoft going to do about this?

I am a little angry that I paid full retail price and my friends did not.
I suppose I paid to kept my morals and conscience in place.

Don't feel angry that your friends are thieves, you never know, one day
Microsoft will find a way to detect them and install 10,000 virus on their
machines... okay thats a bit extreme, but they might detect them and disable
update functionality.

 

[kurttrail]

I have a few friends that have pirated copies of Win XP Pro and they
can actually pass the Windows Genuine Advantage test. I thought this
was suppose to detect piracy. What is Microsoft going to do about
this?
I am a little angry that I paid full retail price and my friends did
not. I suppose I paid to kept my morals and conscience in place.

Sounds like your jealous. What does it matter to you what your friends
do, or what MS is doing to stop them? It's not like MS is gonna drop
the price of their software if all piracy stopped tomorrow.

All WGA does is add another layer of useless BULLSH*T that can go wrong.

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[Richard Urban]

And if the price of Windows XP was dropped to $24.95 tomorrow there would
still be people stealing it - because they CAN!

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[Alias]

And if the price of Windows XP was dropped to $24.95 tomorrow there would
still be people stealing it - because they CAN!

Nothing will stop the stealing but lowering the price will reduce it
considerably, both for Windows and music CDs. But MS, Adobe, Symantec, the
recording industry, etc. want it both ways: no stealing and high prices.

You tell me who the highway robber is ...

Alias

 

[Richard Urban]

AutoCAD at $3500.00 per desktop! That is without the necessary add-ins you
may need.

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[Kenny S]

You can design a spaceship with autocad, its one of the most complex and
accurate programs.

 

[Richard Urban]

And it won't run with an underlying operating system. By itself, it is
nothing - and worthless.

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[Richard Urban]

correction! Sorry (-:

And it won't run **withOUT** an underlying operating system. By itself, it
is
nothing - and worthless.
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Richard Urban

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[Shenan Stanley]

AutoCAD at $3500.00 per desktop! That is without the necessary
add-ins you may need.

You can design a spaceship with autocad, its one of the most complex
and accurate programs.

And it won't run with an underlying operating system. By itself, it is
nothing - and worthless.

* Richard, I believe, meant to say:
"... And without underlying operating system, it (AutoCAD) will not run. By
itself, it (AutoCAD) is nothing - and worthless."

 

[Richard Urban]

The time warp strikes again (-;

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[kurttrail]

Richard Urban wrote: /n

And if the price of Windows XP was dropped to $24.95 tomorrow there
would still be people stealing it - because they CAN!

Your point?

The piracy rate in the western world is lower today than in 1994, before
almost every in the west had there own PCs, yet all of the colluding members
of the BSA Trust does nothing but whine and complain about how piracy is
gonna kill them. Name one member of the BSA that went out of business due
to piracy of there product!

Name ONE!

In Asia, piracy is a big deal, but we in the west pay for their piracy in
the price we pay for our software. No corporation is losing money due to
piracy, and their paying customers pay twice. First they pay for piracy as
part of the price of software, and then they pay again by having to jump
through BS copy-protection hoops that don't stop piracy one iota, and all it
really does is become another thing that can and will go wrong with
software!

People have been stealing since the beginning, and no technology is ever
gonna stop it, so treating everybody, including the paying customer like a
potential criminal is just an exercise in futility.

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[kurttrail]

Richard Urban wrote: /n

AutoCAD at $3500.00 per desktop! That is without the necessary
add-ins you may need.

AutoCAD is not the average consumer software product, and it is TOTALLY
disengenuous of you to even attempt to compare it to Windows.

Shame on you! You know better than that!

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[kurttrail]

Richard Urban wrote: /n

correction! Sorry (-:

And it won't run **withOUT** an underlying operating system. By
itself, it is
nothing - and worthless.

So? What does that have to do with what Alias wrote about Windows price and
piracy?

Or are you just trying to change the subject because you know you are full
of sh*t with your piracy arguments when it comes to the software that is
used by the average consumer?

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[Richard Urban]

I was not comparing it to Windows. I was comparing it to highway robbery!


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[Richard Urban]

The point is Kurt, people steal because they want to. The price is not a
part of the equation. People don't even send in $4.95 for a good little
shareware applet that they find to be useful and keep on their computer.

It's ingrained in the human psyche to get something for nothing. Then they
puff their chests out and claim they "beat the system". Well, some systems
fight back!

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Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

 

[Alias]

Now there's a software worth pirating!

Alias

AutoCAD at $3500.00 per desktop! That is without the necessary add-ins you
may need.

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Regards,

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

 

[kurttrail]

Richard Urban wrote: /n

I was not comparing it to Windows. I was comparing it to highway
robbery!

LOL! They really aren't tying to sell AutoCAD to the average consumer, but
to commerical entities. For what it is and what it does, it is rather
cheaply priced.

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[kurttrail]

Richard Urban wrote: /n

The point is Kurt, people steal because they want to. The price is
not a part of the equation. People don't even send in $4.95 for a
good little shareware applet that they find to be useful and keep on
their computer.
It's ingrained in the human psyche to get something for nothing. Then
they puff their chests out and claim they "beat the system". Well,
some systems fight back!

Than is just ONE reason why some people don't pay for the software they use.
They are many that "pirate" Windows because of its pricing, so cutting the
price would inevitably take a bite out of piracy.

Then you got the false "piracy" of BS rules trying to steal peoples rights
to "fair use." No software company has yet proven that they have the right
to strip an individual of their "fair use" yet they claim that it is piracy.
So there is another way to help lower the piracy rate even more! Either
prove they have the right, in a real court of law, or give up their
unsubstantiated claim that an individual installing legally purchased
software on more than one computer for their own private non-commercial use
is piracy!

Fight piracy by those two means, then you will have bought piracy down to
those that will do it any way.

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