WEP problem, I think?

[Muddle]

I've two 98SE and one XP Home on an existing 80211.b network and I am trying
to add an XP Media Center Edition laptop to the Network.
I think my problem is I need to set it to 64 bit wep, however I can't find
the setting to switch from 128 bit wep to 64 bit. It's not in the same
place as the XP Home laptop. SSID, key and channel are set right.
The Media Center sees the wireless network and connection is good, however
the Linksys router won't assign it an IP address.
Where is the setting on a Media Center Edition computer for 64 bit wep?

 

[Muddle]

I've two 98SE and one XP Home on an existing 80211.b network and I am trying
to add an XP Media Center Edition laptop to the Network.
I think my problem is I need to set it to 64 bit wep, however I can't find
the setting to switch from 128 bit wep to 64 bit. It's not in the same
place as the XP Home laptop. SSID, key and channel are set right.
The Media Center sees the wireless network and connection is good, however
the Linksys router won't assign it an IP address.
Where is the setting on a Media Center Edition computer for 64 bit wep?

This is the problem, if I disable all encryption on the router and the Media
Center Edition Computer I get connected.
How do I set 64 bit wep?

 

[Muddle]

This is the problem, if I disable all encryption on the router and the Media
Center Edition Computer I get connected.
How do I set 64 bit wep?

I've already talked to the idiots at geek squad, who want to charge me $50
dollars to fix a computer that is supposed to conform to IEEE 80211.b specs.

 

[Chuck]

I've already talked to the idiots at geek squad, who want to charge me $50
dollars to fix a computer that is supposed to conform to IEEE 80211.b specs.

Do you want help here, or just to babble? Maybe you could state the symptoms,
and what you THINK is the problem, and ask what the solution is.

WEP, 64 or 128 bit, simply isn't enough security.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/wep-just-isnt-enough-protection.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/wep-just-isnt-enough-protection.html

And it's only part of a properly designed WiFi network.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/11/setting-up-wifi-lan.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/11/setting-up-wifi-lan.html

Start with WPA please, and set it up properly. Then ask for help with the
problem, with a bit more detail provided.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html

 

[AJR]

Chuck - I consider you "authorities" and always read your posts and replies.
However I do not recall you making a remark like "Do you want help here, or
just to babble? " previously.

 

[Chuck]

Chuck - I consider you "authorities" and always read your posts and replies.
However I do not recall you making a remark like "Do you want help here, or
just to babble? " previously.

Well, that's a good point. It's Friday, and I'm just recovering from post
Christmas flu / stress.

All that aside, 3 posts in a row by one OP is pretty close to babble. There are
occasionally trolls here, and sometimes they will babble. But since the OP is
probably not a troll, I did provide to him some serious advice.

It is good to state the symptoms, and what one thinks is the problem. But don't
suggest WEP as the only solution. Let's see if we can find the proper solution,
and that starts from understanding the issues. So if the OP (who uses such a
cute name which is maybe in keeping with his intention to use WEP) returns,
maybe he'll accept my apology for an insensitive introduction.

But following the links is a good idea.

 

[Muddle]

I want to know where is the setting to switch from 128 bit to 64 bit wep in
Windows Media Center Edition!
Nothing more and nothing less!

specs.

Do you want help here, or just to babble? Maybe you could state the symptoms,
and what you THINK is the problem, and ask what the solution is.

WEP, 64 or 128 bit, simply isn't enough security.

 

[Chuck]

I want to know where is the setting to switch from 128 bit to 64 bit wep in
Windows Media Center Edition!
Nothing more and nothing less!

There's no selection at the client end. If the router is setup for 128 bit WEP,
then the client has to provide that, or no connection.

Make sure that you have only one WiFi client manager running, having more than
one running will cause problems like yours.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/01/stabilise-your-wifi-use-only-one-wifi.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/01/stabilise-your-wifi-use-only-one-wifi.html

 

[Muddle]

There's no selection at the client end. If the router is setup for 128 bit WEP,
then the client has to provide that, or no connection.

Make sure that you have only one WiFi client manager running, having more than
one running will cause problems like yours.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/01/stabilise-your-wifi-use-only-one-wifi
..html>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/01/stabilise-your-wifi-use-only-one-wifi.
html

The router [IS] set to 64 bit WEP and every other machine on this network
has a setting one can alter for 64 bit, 128 bit or disabled including the
Windows XP machines.
Windows Media Center Edition has no WEP encryption level connection settings
which one can change and defaults to 128 bit. I've actually tested a bunch
of them from different manufs. and everyone of them has no setting on the
properties/advanced tab to switch it to 64 bit and none of them appear to be
able to connect to a router set up for 64 bit.
I'm a little paranoid, however not as much as ten dozen neighbors of mine
who have no security on their wireless network at all. All I want to say,
to war drivers, is don't knock on my door. If you want to download
nefarious material from the internet, the pickings are a bit easier two
houses down.
To set up 128 bit wep on a 98 or 98se machine one has to copy down the
generated keys and type them in without error every time they're changed or
the network burps. It's a royal pain!

 

[Muddle]

I

am

<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/wep-just-isnt-enough-protection.html

with

the

<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.htm
l

http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html

wep

in

There's no selection at the client end. If the router is setup for 128 bit WEP,
then the client has to provide that, or no connection.

Make sure that you have only one WiFi client manager running, having

more

than
one running will cause problems like yours.

<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/01/stabilise-your-wifi-use-only-one-wifi

.html>

http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/01/stabilise-your-wifi-use-only-one-wifi.

html

The router [IS] set to 64 bit WEP and every other machine on this network
has a setting one can alter for 64 bit, 128 bit or disabled including the
Windows XP machines.
Windows Media Center Edition has no WEP encryption level connection settings
which one can change and defaults to 128 bit. I've actually tested a bunch
of them from different manufs. and everyone of them has no setting on the
properties/advanced tab to switch it to 64 bit and none of them appear to be
able to connect to a router set up for 64 bit.
I'm a little paranoid, however not as much as ten dozen neighbors of mine
who have no security on their wireless network at all. All I want to say,
to war drivers, is don't knock on my door. If you want to download
nefarious material from the internet, the pickings are a bit easier two
houses down.
To set up 128 bit wep on a 98 or 98se machine one has to copy down the
generated keys and type them in without error every time they're changed or
the network burps. It's a royal pain!

Thanks, that's all I wanted, unless it doesn't work.
I wondered about that goofy intel wireless manager in the taskbar, because
all it did was open the same advanced settings you can't change. For future
reference what did or would you enter into any search engine to get those
results. I spent hours searching with various keywords and found nothing.
Your a good man Charlie Brown.

 

[Chuck]

wrote:

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 11:54:52 -0600, "Muddle"
<[email protected]>
wrote:



I've two 98SE and one XP Home on an existing 80211.b network and

I

am
trying
to add an XP Media Center Edition laptop to the Network.
I think my problem is I need to set it to 64 bit wep, however I can't
find
the setting to switch from 128 bit wep to 64 bit. It's not in the
same
place as the XP Home laptop. SSID, key and channel are set right.
The Media Center sees the wireless network and connection is good,
however
the Linksys router won't assign it an IP address.
Where is the setting on a Media Center Edition computer for 64 bit
wep?

This is the problem, if I disable all encryption on the router and the
Media
Center Edition Computer I get connected.
How do I set 64 bit wep?


I've already talked to the idiots at geek squad, who want to charge me
$50
dollars to fix a computer that is supposed to conform to IEEE 80211.b
specs.

Do you want help here, or just to babble? Maybe you could state the
symptoms,
and what you THINK is the problem, and ask what the solution is.

WEP, 64 or 128 bit, simply isn't enough security.


<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/wep-just-isnt-enough-protection.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/wep-just-isnt-enough-protection.html

And it's only part of a properly designed WiFi network.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/11/setting-up-wifi-lan.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/11/setting-up-wifi-lan.html

Start with WPA please, and set it up properly. Then ask for help

with

the
problem, with a bit more detail provided.


<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.htm
l

http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html

I want to know where is the setting to switch from 128 bit to 64 bit

wep

in
Windows Media Center Edition!
Nothing more and nothing less!

There's no selection at the client end. If the router is setup for 128 bit WEP,
then the client has to provide that, or no connection.

Make sure that you have only one WiFi client manager running, having

more

than
one running will cause problems like yours.

<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/01/stabilise-your-wifi-use-only-one-wifi

.html>

http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/01/stabilise-your-wifi-use-only-one-wifi.

html

The router [IS] set to 64 bit WEP and every other machine on this network
has a setting one can alter for 64 bit, 128 bit or disabled including the
Windows XP machines.
Windows Media Center Edition has no WEP encryption level connection settings
which one can change and defaults to 128 bit. I've actually tested a bunch
of them from different manufs. and everyone of them has no setting on the
properties/advanced tab to switch it to 64 bit and none of them appear to be
able to connect to a router set up for 64 bit.
I'm a little paranoid, however not as much as ten dozen neighbors of mine
who have no security on their wireless network at all. All I want to say,
to war drivers, is don't knock on my door. If you want to download
nefarious material from the internet, the pickings are a bit easier two
houses down.
To set up 128 bit wep on a 98 or 98se machine one has to copy down the
generated keys and type them in without error every time they're changed or
the network burps. It's a royal pain!

Thanks, that's all I wanted, unless it doesn't work.
I wondered about that goofy intel wireless manager in the taskbar, because
all it did was open the same advanced settings you can't change. For future
reference what did or would you enter into any search engine to get those
results. I spent hours searching with various keywords and found nothing.
Your a good man Charlie Brown.

Well, the focus of this forum is networking Windows XP computers. You won't
find a lot of depth here, re WiFi issues like yours. There is also a Microsoft
WiFi forum, but there you may not find width.

Try the DSL Reports WiFi forum, where you will find both depth and width of
knowledge, and good attitude. If they can't help, you're truly out of luck.
<http://www.dslreports.com/forum/wlan>
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/wlan

 

[Muddle]

and
I in
the 64
bit charge
me

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<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.ht m

http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.htm l

I want to know where is the setting to switch from 128 bit to 64 bit wep
in
Windows Media Center Edition!
Nothing more and nothing less!

There's no selection at the client end. If the router is setup for 128
bit WEP,
then the client has to provide that, or no connection.

Make sure that you have only one WiFi client manager running, having more
than
one running will cause problems like yours.

<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/01/stabilise-your-wifi-use-only-one-wif i
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/01/stabilise-your-wifi-use-only-one-wifi ..

html



The router [IS] set to 64 bit WEP and every other machine on this network
has a setting one can alter for 64 bit, 128 bit or disabled including the
Windows XP machines.
Windows Media Center Edition has no WEP encryption level connection settings
which one can change and defaults to 128 bit. I've actually tested a bunch
of them from different manufs. and everyone of them has no setting on the
properties/advanced tab to switch it to 64 bit and none of them appear

to
be

able to connect to a router set up for 64 bit.
I'm a little paranoid, however not as much as ten dozen neighbors of mine
who have no security on their wireless network at all. All I want to say,
to war drivers, is don't knock on my door. If you want to download
nefarious material from the internet, the pickings are a bit easier two
houses down.
To set up 128 bit wep on a 98 or 98se machine one has to copy down the
generated keys and type them in without error every time they're

changed
or

the network burps. It's a royal pain!

Thanks, that's all I wanted, unless it doesn't work.
I wondered about that goofy intel wireless manager in the taskbar, because
all it did was open the same advanced settings you can't change. For future
reference what did or would you enter into any search engine to get those
results. I spent hours searching with various keywords and found nothing.
Your a good man Charlie Brown.

Well, the focus of this forum is networking Windows XP computers. You won't
find a lot of depth here, re WiFi issues like yours. There is also a Microsoft
WiFi forum, but there you may not find width.

Try the DSL Reports WiFi forum, where you will find both depth and width of
knowledge, and good attitude. If they can't help, you're truly out of luck.
<http://www.dslreports.com/forum/wlan>
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/wlan

The correct answer appears to be Windows Media Center Edition doesn't
support WEP security as implemented on this Linksys router. To secure an
802.11b network one must disable wep and build a MAC address table of
wireless clients that are allowed to connect to that 802.11b router.
I have SBC/AT&T DSL and 80211.b is about ten times faster than the speed
provided by my dsl provider. When SBC/AT&T gives me a 54 meg up/down fat
pipe for $19.95 a month I'll upgrade my network.