Web browser that saves/reads .mht files or equivalent

[Anna Mazzoldi]

Is there any web browser (other than MSIE) that can save web pages in
one file? It's a feature that I use a lot and I haven't seen it in any
of the free browsers I've looked at. (In MSIE this produces .mht files:
I don't mind if the file format is different, only that the function
exists. "Full saves" where all linked files are saved separately are
not portable enough for my purposes.)

Thanks in advance,
Anna

 

[P.]

Is there any web browser (other than MSIE) that can save web pages in
one file? It's a feature that I use a lot and I haven't seen it in any
of the free browsers I've looked at. (In MSIE this produces .mht files:
I don't mind if the file format is different, only that the function
exists. "Full saves" where all linked files are saved separately are
not portable enough for my purposes.)

Tried Scrapbook for Firefox ?
http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/index.php?showtopic=1316

 

[kenny]

Firefox can do it with the MAF extension that includes compatibility with
MHT along with its own compressed format (maf)

http://maf.mozdev.org/



--
Kenfucious said:

Michael Jackson has been vindicated.

The truth is one, you must accept it. Reality is not a point of view, since
if everything was a point a view, then the theory that everything is a point
of view, is just a point a view and not something real.

 

[kenny]

to install it go here:
http://maf.mozdev.org/installation.html

with firefox and press the link:
Latest XPI - 0.5.0 for Linux and Windows

________________________________

latest version is 0.5.0 >>> is the latest one NOT the one here:
https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=212

Kenny



--
Kenfucious said:

Michael Jackson has been vindicated.

The truth is one, you must accept it. Reality is not a point of view, since
if everything was a point a view, then the theory that everything is a point
of view, is just a point a view and not something real.

Firefox can do it with the MAF extension that includes compatibility with
MHT along with its own compressed format (maf)

http://maf.mozdev.org/



--
Kenfucious said:

Michael Jackson has been vindicated.

The truth is one, you must accept it. Reality is not a point of view,
since
if everything was a point a view, then the theory that everything is a
point
of view, is just a point a view and not something real.

 

[badgolferman]

Anna Mazzoldi, 6/22/2005, 9:32:37 AM,

Is there any web browser (other than MSIE) that can save web pages in
one file? It's a feature that I use a lot and I haven't seen it in any
of the free browsers I've looked at. (In MSIE this produces .mht
files: I don't mind if the file format is different, only that the
function exists. "Full saves" where all linked files are saved
separately are not portable enough for my purposes.)

Thanks in advance,
Anna

If this is a feature you like then why use something else? Oh, I know.
It is fashionable to bash IE/OE in this group.

Now I will run before the rotten tomatoes are thrown my way!

 

[Mike Andrade]

Anna Mazzoldi, 6/22/2005, 9:32:37 AM,


If this is a feature you like then why use something else?

If she prefers to surf/browse with something other than IE, why would
she want to switch programs if she finds a site she wants to save?

Oh, I
know. It is fashionable to bash IE/OE in this group.

And just as fashionable to bash the bashers...though common sense
should have suggested the answer to your question before you asked
it.

 

[Fuzzy Logic]

Anna Mazzoldi, 6/22/2005, 9:32:37 AM,


If this is a feature you like then why use something else? Oh, I know.
It is fashionable to bash IE/OE in this group.

Now I will run before the rotten tomatoes are thrown my way!

IE is not as insecure as many people make it out.

Avant (uses IE's rendering engine) can deal with .MHT files and has many of
the features of Firefox and many it doesn't. It can be found at
www.avantbrowser.com and is free.

 

[The Six Million Dollar Man]

IE is not as insecure as many people make it out.

Avant (uses IE's rendering engine) can deal with .MHT files and has many of
the features of Firefox and many it doesn't. It can be found at
www.avantbrowser.com and is free.

It was only a year ago that CERT http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/713878
recommended that people should

"Use a different web browser

There are a number of significant vulnerabilities in technologies
relating to the IE domain/zone security model, local file system (Local
Machine Zone) trust, the Dynamic HTML (DHTML) document object model (in
particular, proprietary DHTML features), the HTML Help system, MIME type
determination, the graphical user interface (GUI), and ActiveX. These
technologies are implemented in operating system libraries that are used
by IE and many other programs to provide web browser functionality. IE
is integrated into Windows to such an extent that vulnerabilities in IE
frequently provide an attacker significant access to the operating system.

It is possible to reduce exposure to these vulnerabilities by using a
different web browser, especially when viewing untrusted HTML documents
(e.g., web sites, HTML email messages). Such a decision may, however,
reduce the functionality of sites that require IE-specific features such
as proprietary DHTML, VBScript, and ActiveX. Note that using a different
web browser will not remove IE from a Windows system, and other programs
may invoke IE, the WebBrowser ActiveX control (WebOC), or the HTML
rendering engine (MSHTML)."

note : the document was updated as late as this January.

 

[Tomguy]

Is there any web browser (other than MSIE) that can save web pages in
one file? It's a feature that I use a lot and I haven't seen it in any
of the free browsers I've looked at. (In MSIE this produces .mht files:
I don't mind if the file format is different, only that the function
exists. "Full saves" where all linked files are saved separately are
not portable enough for my purposes.)

Thanks in advance,
Anna

The program I use for grouping/archiving webpages I've saved to disk is
Local Website Archive. It maintains the links within the saved webpage.

It has a freeware version and a pay version:

http://www.aignes.com/wsarc/

I use it for archiving and burning all my saved webpages to CD-R/DVD-R.

 

[Fuzzy Logic]

It was only a year ago that CERT http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/713878
recommended that people should

"Use a different web browser

There are a number of significant vulnerabilities in technologies
relating to the IE domain/zone security model, local file system (Local
Machine Zone) trust, the Dynamic HTML (DHTML) document object model (in
particular, proprietary DHTML features), the HTML Help system, MIME type
determination, the graphical user interface (GUI), and ActiveX. These
technologies are implemented in operating system libraries that are used
by IE and many other programs to provide web browser functionality. IE
is integrated into Windows to such an extent that vulnerabilities in IE
frequently provide an attacker significant access to the operating
system.

It is possible to reduce exposure to these vulnerabilities by using a
different web browser, especially when viewing untrusted HTML documents
(e.g., web sites, HTML email messages). Such a decision may, however,
reduce the functionality of sites that require IE-specific features such
as proprietary DHTML, VBScript, and ActiveX. Note that using a different
web browser will not remove IE from a Windows system, and other programs
may invoke IE, the WebBrowser ActiveX control (WebOC), or the HTML
rendering engine (MSHTML)."

note : the document was updated as late as this January.

They listed many solutions of which one was use another browser. They also
mentioned:

Apply the patch (867801) referenced in Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-025.

-----------------------------------------------------------

Regardless of the browser you use there will be vulnerabilities. It's
important to find a well supported browser YOU like, learn it's security
features and use them. Keep it, and your operating system, patched and up to
date and use the firewall between your ears when surfing the Internet. No
browser can prevent you from downloading and installing 'free' software with
malware attached. If you visit questionable sites on the net you may get
more than you expected.

 

[The Six Million Dollar Man]

They listed many solutions of which one was use another browser. They also
mentioned:

Apply the patch (867801) referenced in Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-025.

-----------------------------------------------------------

Regardless of the browser you use there will be vulnerabilities. It's
important to find a well supported browser YOU like, learn it's security
features and use them. Keep it, and your operating system, patched and up to
date and use the firewall between your ears when surfing the Internet. No
browser can prevent you from downloading and installing 'free' software with
malware attached. If you visit questionable sites on the net you may get
more than you expected.

Good advice.

The major vulnerability that IE and IE shells have, that no other
browser has is that it is part of Windows. An attack on IE is an attack
on the OS. This is why people should at least try to use an alternative
browser.

"Windows uses chunks of IE all over the operating system, even in
programs in which you wouldn't expect to find a web browser's presence.
For instance these programs all require IE to work:


WINDOWS EXPLORER

When you look at files on your computer, you're actually using IE to
view your own filesystem.


ADD/REMOVE PROGRAMS

When you open this control panel, IE is being used to display the list
of programs you have installed on your PC.


OUTLOOK AND OUTLOOK EXPRESS

Ever viewed an HTML-based email (an email message that looks like a web
page)? Sure you have. Microsoft's email programs use IE to display
HTML-based email.


WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER

WMP uses IE to show information about the songs CDs, and movies you're
listening to or viewing.


WINDOWS HELP AND SUPPORT

If you use Windows Help, you're using IE-it's displaying the text and
pictures you see in front of you.


MSN EXPLORER

Microsoft's ISP service, MSN, offers its own frontend to the Internet,
called MSN Explorer. This is really just a highly customized version of IE.


These are just some of the Microsoft programs that use IE. Lots of other
third-party applications (including AOL, Winamp, Quicken, and Real
Player) use pieces of it-called a DLL, or Dynamic Link Library-as well."*


* don't click on the blue e!
by Scott Granneman
O'Reilly Media Inc
© 2005

page 24

 

[Fuzzy Logic]

Good advice.

The major vulnerability that IE and IE shells have, that no other
browser has is that it is part of Windows. An attack on IE is an attack
on the OS. This is why people should at least try to use an alternative
browser.

A common misconception. All browsers are 'tied' to the OS or they wouldn't
run. It is true that many part of Windows rely on parts of IE to function
(components mentioned in your post cut for brevity). IE interfaces with
the OS the same way any other browser/program does. For a more detailed
discussion:

http://blogs.msdn.com/dmassy/archive/2005/03/22/400689.aspx

 

[The Six Million Dollar Man]

A common misconception. All browsers are 'tied' to the OS or they wouldn't
run. It is true that many part of Windows rely on parts of IE to function
(components mentioned in your post cut for brevity). IE interfaces with
the OS the same way any other browser/program does. For a more detailed
discussion:

http://blogs.msdn.com/dmassy/archive/2005/03/22/400689.aspx

Thanks for the link.

This appears for the most part to be a discussion between Firefox users
and at least one Microsoft employee. After reading several (I didn't
read all, there were too many posts for that) I was struck by the
following samples:

-------------------------------------------------

# re: More secure @ Wednesday, March 23, 2005 9:39 AM

I would agree there are some loopholes on both sides of the arguement,
but recent reports do show IE lagging further in their security over the
past year than firefox did:
http://www.greatreporter.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=362

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# you missed the point @ Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:07 AM

The security of any browser is irrelevant to if it is part of the

operating system.

With IE there are many more ways for me to take over the full machine
because the browser is sprinkled throughout the OS. With Firefox, I get
less
--------------------------------------------------

 

[Ron Lopshire]

<SNIP>

I use Windows XP Home SP2. I can uninstall Firefox and Netscape, both
completely, and still use my system. How do I do that with IE? How do I
get rid of all traces of Active-X and still operate XP?

 

[The Six Million Dollar Man]

<SNIP>

Please note that this very large snip creates the allusion that I made
the above statement. In fact it is Fuzzy Logic that the quote should be
attributed to.

 

[Ron Lopshire]

Please note that this very large snip creates the allusion that I made
the above statement. In fact it is Fuzzy Logic that the quote should be
attributed to.

Sorry Six Million Dollar Man...

I tried to follow the quote hierarchy signs, ">", obviously not very
well. My reply was not meant to be Smart A** toward you or Fuzzy Logic.
I am interested in keeping the rest of my family (wife, kids, grandkids,
etc.) from undoing my efforts at disabling IE, Active-X, Java, etc. I
can obviously do that with anything on which the OS does not depend.

Sorry again,
Ron

 

[The Six Million Dollar Man]

Sorry Six Million Dollar Man...

I tried to follow the quote hierarchy signs, ">", obviously not very
well. My reply was not meant to be Smart A** toward you or Fuzzy Logic.

No need to apologize. I just wanted to point it out because I realize it
isn't always easy to keep everything sorted the way it should be.

I am interested in keeping the rest of my family (wife, kids, grandkids,
etc.) from undoing my efforts at disabling IE, Active-X, Java, etc. I
can obviously do that with anything on which the OS does not depend.

I totally agree with you. Since IE acts like a super-highway from the
internet to the OS for all kinds of malware.

I suspect that your concern is for Java Script, and not Java. If this is
so you may want to try the new "No Script" extension for Mozilla
https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=mozilla&id=722
or for Firefox
https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=firefox&id=722
to give you more control over which sites can or can't run scripts.


HTH

 

[Ron Lopshire]

No need to apologize. I just wanted to point it out because I realize it
isn't always easy to keep everything sorted the way it should be.



I totally agree with you. Since IE acts like a super-highway from the
internet to the OS for all kinds of malware.

I suspect that your concern is for Java Script, and not Java. If this is
so you may want to try the new "No Script" extension for Mozilla
https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=mozilla&id=722

or for Firefox
https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=firefox&id=722

to give you more control over which sites can or can't run scripts.


HTH

Thanks SMDM,

Which is worse, Java or Java Script? I actually have a Java Script clock
on my Web Site which is convenient for determining if and when a
document has been updated.

Ron

 

[Fuzzy Logic]

<SNIP>

I use Windows XP Home SP2. I can uninstall Firefox and Netscape, both
completely, and still use my system. How do I do that with IE? How do I
get rid of all traces of Active-X and still operate XP?

WindowsXP relies on IE/ActiveX to do WindowsUpdate and many other things
mentioned in a previous post. This does not mean that IE is doing something
special in it's interaction with the OS just that the OS uses some of the
same components as IE.

 

[Fuzzy Logic]

No need to apologize. I just wanted to point it out because I realize it
isn't always easy to keep everything sorted the way it should be.

Your family would be better served by teaching them safe Internet practices.
All the protection you put in place can easily be circumvented by simply
saying yes to a simple dialog box on a web site.

I totally agree with you. Since IE acts like a super-highway from the
internet to the OS for all kinds of malware.

Since I support about 600 IE users I can attest to this NOT being the case.
The ONLY malware that's ever made it on to a users machine has been the
result of the user saying yes to some prompt they didn't understand or
downloading 'freeware' that came with extra 'goodies'