Was XP programmed by Blonds?


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casey.o

Was XP programmed by blonds? I'm being sarcastic, but for good reason.
I thought I'd try some of the generic modem drivers that come with XP,
rather than the driver made for the modem, which is not working.

Everytime I go to the "search for drivers" option, I am asked at least
three times "Do you want ot search the Windows upgrades online?".

Ummmmmm, like DUH ! How in the F--K am I supposed to search *ONLINE*
when I'm setting up a modem? This question is stupider than most blond
jokes..... It kind of makes me wonder if XP (at least parts of it), were
programmed by Blonds?

Actually, Blond Children in Kindergarten !!!!

Dont they catch stuff like this when they test the software? And since
I'm using SP3, dont they fix this sort of thing? They've had over a
decade to fix it.....


I never saw this in Win98. I wonder if they still ask this in Win7 and
Win8?

MS gets the idiot award of the decade for this one..... :)


...... and everytime I try another driver, I got to check "NOT THIS TIME"
three more times....... Arrrrgggghhhhhh.... At least if they had some
setting to turn this off, (like "Dont ask me again").



This needs to have it's own blond joke..... I'll have to think about
this more.....

Kind of like the blond that got pulled over by the cops for swerving all
over the road. The cop asks her if she's been drinking, and she says
"yes". Then he asks her why she's driving drunk. She replies "I had to
drive, because I'm too drunk to walk" !!!
 
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J. P. Gilliver (John)

In message <[email protected]>,
Was XP programmed by blonds? I'm being sarcastic, but for good reason.
I thought I'd try some of the generic modem drivers that come with XP,
rather than the driver made for the modem, which is not working.

Have you found one that works yet?
Everytime I go to the "search for drivers" option, I am asked at least
three times "Do you want ot search the Windows upgrades online?".

Ummmmmm, like DUH ! How in the F--K am I supposed to search *ONLINE*
when I'm setting up a modem? This question is stupider than most blond
jokes..... It kind of makes me wonder if XP (at least parts of it), were
programmed by Blonds?

It does seem daft, doesn't it! Basically it asks that for _any_ piece of
hardware; I agree, it seems daft to ask it for a MoDem, though I would
point out that you could be setting up a dialup MoDem - in case of
emergencies, say - while you still have your broadband connection. (Or
setting up, say, a wireless one while you still have a wired one.)
[]
I never saw this in Win98. I wonder if they still ask this in Win7 and
Win8?

Did '9x _have_ the ability to go check for drivers (for anything) online
itself as part of the (any) new hardware process, or did you have to
hope the driver was included as part of the basic '9x or came on a disc
with the hardware (or have to _yourself_ go and get the driver)?
MS gets the idiot award of the decade for this one..... :)
Well, _maybe_ not.

..... and everytime I try another driver, I got to check "NOT THIS TIME"
three more times....... Arrrrgggghhhhhh.... At least if they had some
setting to turn this off, (like "Dont ask me again").
I agree, that one _is_ extremely irritating!IIRR, you're the poster here who has decided he has to go XP, because
'9x just won't hack current web pages. Don't worry, despite what you
think now, you'll get used to it (and even, though I never thought _I_
would, to like it [it'll always have its irritating quirks, but then so
did '9x, 3.x, DOS, ...). And you'll ask all the same questions (or type
of questions) when you move from XP to 7 or 8: certainly the rest of us
are asking them! (Though mostly in the 7 'group, of course, rather than
here.)
[]
 
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philo 

Was XP programmed by blonds? I'm being sarcastic, but for good reason.
I thought I'd try some of the generic modem drivers that come with XP,
rather than the driver made for the modem, which is not working.

Everytime I go to the "search for drivers" option, I am asked at least
three times "Do you want ot search the Windows upgrades online?".

Ummmmmm, like DUH ! How in the F--K am I supposed to search *ONLINE*
when I'm setting up a modem? This question is stupider than most blond
jokes..... It kind of makes me wonder if XP (at least parts of it), were
programmed by Blonds?

Actually, Blond Children in Kindergarten !!!!

Dont they catch stuff like this when they test the software? And since
I'm using SP3, dont they fix this sort of thing? They've had over a
decade to fix it.....


I never saw this in Win98. I wonder if they still ask this in Win7 and
Win8?



<snip>

When you start the H/W wizard take the advanced option to install manually


BTW: If you uninstall your modem entirely and reboot, Windows may just
do that automatically
 
C

casey.o

Have you found one that works yet?
Not really, but using the default generic 33K modem from XP, I am able
to stay connected, and download. But it's still only half as fast as in
Win98. I did keep a connection for 11 hours, and downloaded several 6
to 10 megs files. But I cant post or receive a message on this
newsgroup at the same time. I get a timeout error from Agent. Oddly
enough, using this driver, it says I'm connected at 115.2k. NO WAY!
My download speed on those downloads has been 2.0 to 4.5kb/sec. I did
hit 5.0 for a few seconds near the beginning. Eventually the speed got
slower, but that was over 11 hours.

In other words, it's semi-usable, but no where close to using Win98.
I'm giving up on it. I'll keep this driver/setting for now, so I can at
least read the newsgorups on this computer, but it's time to get a new
modem. I've spent days fighting with this, and I've had it! Far too
much time has been wasted, that could have been used to do something
worthwhile. And that amount of time does not include the many days I
spent during the last 5 years trying to fix the same damn problem on
Win2000.

Sometimes I think these computers are intended to drive a person insane.
And these modem issues seem to be one of the worst of all. There are so
many possible setting combinations that the numbers are probably in the
billions. One could spend their entire life trying to get a damn modem
to work. NO THANKS! What amazes me, is that no one ever wrote a piece
of software that could just determine and create the proper settings.
Everytime I go to the "search for drivers" option, I am asked at least
three times "Do you want ot search the Windows upgrades online?".

Ummmmmm, like DUH ! How in the F--K am I supposed to search *ONLINE*
when I'm setting up a modem? This question is stupider than most blond
jokes..... It kind of makes me wonder if XP (at least parts of it), were
programmed by Blonds?

It does seem daft, doesn't it! Basically it asks that for _any_ piece of
hardware; I agree, it seems daft to ask it for a MoDem, though I would
point out that you could be setting up a dialup MoDem - in case of
emergencies, say - while you still have your broadband connection. (Or
setting up, say, a wireless one while you still have a wired one.)
[]
I never saw this in Win98. I wonder if they still ask this in Win7 and
Win8?

Did '9x _have_ the ability to go check for drivers (for anything) online
itself as part of the (any) new hardware process, or did you have to
hope the driver was included as part of the basic '9x or came on a disc
with the hardware (or have to _yourself_ go and get the driver)?

Yes, Win9x does have a Windows Update feature. I recall running it
years ago, on dialup, and it took over a day, but it was no where near
the gigabytes needed for XP. As far as other drivers, I think there
might be something like that, but I dont exactly recall. That
computer/install of 98 works so well, I dont want to screw with it.
If it's not broke - dont fix it!

MS gets the idiot award of the decade for this one..... :)
Well, _maybe_ not.

..... and everytime I try another driver, I got to check "NOT THIS TIME"
three more times....... Arrrrgggghhhhhh.... At least if they had some
setting to turn this off, (like "Dont ask me again").
I agree, that one _is_ extremely irritating!IIRR, you're the poster here who has decided he has to go XP, because
'9x just won't hack current web pages. Don't worry, despite what you
think now, you'll get used to it (and even, though I never thought _I_
would, to like it [it'll always have its irritating quirks, but then so
did '9x, 3.x, DOS, ...). And you'll ask all the same questions (or type
of questions) when you move from XP to 7 or 8: certainly the rest of us
are asking them! (Though mostly in the 7 'group, of course, rather than
here.)
[]

I'm sure I'll get a decent connection, but not with this modem. The
drivers claim they are for Win9.x, Me, 2k, and XP, but they only seem to
work on 9x (maybe ME, I never used ME). They DONT work on 2K or XP.
The modem is obsolete, I cant find any drivers newer than 2002. I even
search using rhe chipset numbers. I'll have to get a USR modem, they
seem to be much better supported, although it appears the Sportsters
have problems on XP too, so I'll avoid them.

I WONT be upgrading to Win7 or 8, now or ever!!!! I have no need for MS
bloatware. XP has too much crap, compared to Win98, if you ask me. My
opinion, is that Win98 was the best OS that MS ever made. But I'm
learning to tolerate XP, and with any luck (and a new modem), I'll be
able to use it to go online. But before I was to even consider a new PC
computer with Win7 or 8, I'll buy an Apple computer.
 
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philo 

I'm sure I'll get a decent connection, but not with this modem. The
drivers claim they are for Win9.x, Me, 2k, and XP, but they only seem to
work on 9x (maybe ME, I never used ME). They DONT work on 2K or XP.
The modem is obsolete, I cant find any drivers newer than 2002. I even
search using rhe chipset numbers. I'll have to get a USR modem, they
seem to be much better supported, although it appears the Sportsters
have problems on XP too, so I'll avoid them.

RE: USR modem
I told you that I have one I'd send you free if you pay postage.
Do you want it or do you just want to keep posting complaints all day?
 
C

casey.o

RE: USR modem
I told you that I have one I'd send you free if you pay postage.
Do you want it or do you just want to keep posting complaints all day?

Yes, I'd be very interested. I must have missed your other message.
How do I get a hold of you to arrange to pay postage?
 
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philo 

Yes, I'd be very interested. I must have missed your other message.
How do I get a hold of you to arrange to pay postage?



my gmail addy is philo565

I can burn you a Puppy Linux cd too of you want


The modem I have is a USR 56k fax modem with the power brick
but I don't have the serial cable
 
C

casey.o

my gmail addy is philo565

I can burn you a Puppy Linux cd too of you want


The modem I have is a USR 56k fax modem with the power brick
but I don't have the serial cable

Cool, you'll be getting an email from me. I have a serial cable. I'd
like the CD too. I actually spent an hour doing a clone of XP to a
spare drive, then I copied the installer for puppy to that drive,
plugged in another spare drive, and used the installer for a USB stick,
to install it to the 2nd harddrive. It didn't work. Apparenely it
wanted an actual usb stick. This computer dont have USB booting, so
that would not work. The HD tried to boot to it, but kept saying
something about invalid or corrupt kernel image.... also some bad file
(the big one). I just formatted the drive, and deleted the installer,
and quit after that. I did see the puppy logo on the screen though.
 
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casey.o

I tried out Puppy Linux, but found Linux Mint more to my liking. Wonder why
you like Puppy Linux better, or maybe you prefer a lighterweight distro. I
gave up on Ubuntu (when it changed interfaces to that yukky Unity).
I've never seen any of them work, but I did some research on the web,
and asked a few people online what was the easiest Linux that most
resembled Win98 in look and features, and Puppy seemed to win. It's
also listed very popular on a site called Distrowatch (is that the right
name?). If I can get Puppy to work, I may want to try others.

Also, I have old computers, so I cant run something that sucks
resources. Puppy should easily run on my machines. (all are pentium 3
types). In fact if I recall, it will run on a pentium 1 with a 300mhz
processor and damn little RAM.
 
P

philo 

I've never seen any of them work, but I did some research on the web,
and asked a few people online what was the easiest Linux that most
resembled Win98 in look and features, and Puppy seemed to win. It's
also listed very popular on a site called Distrowatch (is that the right
name?). If I can get Puppy to work, I may want to try others.

Also, I have old computers, so I cant run something that sucks
resources. Puppy should easily run on my machines. (all are pentium 3
types). In fact if I recall, it will run on a pentium 1 with a 300mhz
processor and damn little RAM.



That's correct. Mint will require much better hardware
 
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J

J. P. Gilliver (John)

In message <[email protected]>,
Have you found one that works yet?
Not really, but using the default generic 33K modem from XP, I am able
to stay connected, and download. But it's still only half as fast as in []
enough, using this driver, it says I'm connected at 115.2k. NO WAY!

You are - connected to the MoDem that is. How fast the MoDem is
connecting to the outside world is a different matter (-:!

I do remember this problem - unfortunately, not what the solution is. It
may even be a matter of the actual connection not being available with a
generic driver, though I suspect that's not the case.
[]
In other words, it's semi-usable, but no where close to using Win98.
I'm giving up on it. I'll keep this driver/setting for now, so I can at
least read the newsgorups on this computer, but it's time to get a new
modem. I've spent days fighting with this, and I've had it! Far too

Good luck. I guess you'll just have to _hope_ you get on OK with a "new"
one.

(By the way, how does it show in the "Networking" tab in Task Manager?
I'm still not convinced you're not getting some other download - updates
or something - going on in the background, which of course a different
MoDem would still suffer from.)
[]
to work. NO THANKS! What amazes me, is that no one ever wrote a piece
of software that could just determine and create the proper settings.

They probably did, actually. (And no, I don't know.)
[]
It does seem daft, doesn't it! Basically it asks that for _any_ piece of
hardware; I agree, it seems daft to ask it for a MoDem, though I would
point out that you could be setting up a dialup MoDem - in case of
emergencies, say - while you still have your broadband connection. (Or
setting up, say, a wireless one while you still have a wired one.)
[]
I never saw this in Win98. I wonder if they still ask this in Win7 and
Win8?

Did '9x _have_ the ability to go check for drivers (for anything) online
itself as part of the (any) new hardware process, or did you have to
hope the driver was included as part of the basic '9x or came on a disc
with the hardware (or have to _yourself_ go and get the driver)?

Yes, Win9x does have a Windows Update feature. I recall running it
years ago, on dialup, and it took over a day, but it was no where near
the gigabytes needed for XP. As far as other drivers, I think there
might be something like that, but I dont exactly recall. That
computer/install of 98 works so well, I dont want to screw with it.
If it's not broke - dont fix it!
I wasn't asking about updates, only whether it asked whether it should
go online for drivers.
[]
IIRR, you're the poster here who has decided he has to go XP, because
'9x just won't hack current web pages. Don't worry, despite what you
think now, you'll get used to it (and even, though I never thought _I_
would, to like it [it'll always have its irritating quirks, but then so
did '9x, 3.x, DOS, ...). And you'll ask all the same questions (or type
of questions) when you move from XP to 7 or 8: certainly the rest of us
are asking them! (Though mostly in the 7 'group, of course, rather than
here.)
[]

I'm sure I'll get a decent connection, but not with this modem. The
drivers claim they are for Win9.x, Me, 2k, and XP, but they only seem to
work on 9x (maybe ME, I never used ME). They DONT work on 2K or XP.

When you say "don't work", do you mean fail altogether to load, or just
don't give you the speed you're expecting?
The modem is obsolete, I cant find any drivers newer than 2002. I even

(Shouldn't matter - I don't think dialup has changed much since then.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ITU-T_V-Series_Recommendations says
V.34 (the 33.6 kbit/s standard) is 10/96, and V.90 and V.92 are 1999.
search using rhe chipset numbers. I'll have to get a USR modem, they
seem to be much better supported, although it appears the Sportsters
have problems on XP too, so I'll avoid them.

I WONT be upgrading to Win7 or 8, now or ever!!!! I have no need for MS
bloatware. XP has too much crap, compared to Win98, if you ask me. My
opinion, is that Win98 was the best OS that MS ever made. But I'm
learning to tolerate XP, and with any luck (and a new modem), I'll be
able to use it to go online. But before I was to even consider a new PC
computer with Win7 or 8, I'll buy an Apple computer.
I think you'll find Apple computers have the same frustrations as
Windows ones. Some less so, some more so - in large part because of the
much tighter control: you're much more restricted on what you can do,
which makes it easier for them to make the things you are allowed to do
work better. At much higher cost for the same hardware, of course,
though if you take the Apple shilling, that won't worry you, because of
the style.
 
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Gene Wirchenko

On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 04:38:42 -0600, (e-mail address removed) wrote:

[snip]
Ummmmmm, like DUH ! How in the F--K am I supposed to search *ONLINE*
when I'm setting up a modem? This question is stupider than most blond
jokes..... It kind of makes me wonder if XP (at least parts of it), were
programmed by Blonds?

Setting up a modem does not mean that you do not have an Internet
connection. It probably is that way for most, but it need not be the
case.

[snip]

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko
 
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Bob F

I WONT be upgrading to Win7 or 8, now or ever!!!! I have no need for
MS bloatware. XP has too much crap, compared to Win98, if you ask
me. My opinion, is that Win98 was the best OS that MS ever made.
But I'm learning to tolerate XP, and with any luck (and a new modem),
I'll be able to use it to go online. But before I was to even
consider a new PC computer with Win7 or 8, I'll buy an Apple computer.

For me, Win 2000 and XP were so far more dependable than Win98 that I never had
any desire to go back. I never had your modem problems either. I have a copy of
Win 7, but don't use it because of the removal of one of the video options that
DRM changes resulted in from Vista on, and I have to use old video drivers to
have that option. That option was the setting to have video content
automatically go fullscreen to my TV in addition to the window on the computer.
 

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