VM Sun/MS Which is better???

[Guest]

Have been reading much about virtual machine suppliers Sun/Ms. Would like to know from the "PROs" their opinions about which VM is better and the advantages/disadvantages they possess so that the average computer user (as myself) can get a good idea about which one to download.

 

[Guest]

I don't think Microsoft can use its own version of Java
anymore as part of that law suite compromise and you have
to install Sun's Java and not Microsoft's.

-----Original Message-----
Have been reading much about virtual machine suppliers

Sun/Ms. Would like to know from the "PROs" their opinions
about which VM is better and the advantages/disadvantages
they possess so that the average computer user (as
myself) can get a good idea about which one to download.

 

[Jerry]

Wrong.

Microsoft and Sun signed an agreement to allow the MS JVM continue to be
used till 2009.

 

[Robert Moir]

Have been reading much about virtual machine suppliers Sun/Ms.
Would like to know from the "PROs" their opinions about which VM is
better and the advantages/disadvantages they possess so that the
average computer user (as myself) can get a good idea about which one
to download.

The MS Java machine is somewhat outdated these days, and keeps popping up
with strange and interesting new security holes.

If at all possible I'd use the Sun version. It isn't perfect, but at least
its still being developed.

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Rob Moir, Microsoft MVP for servers & security
Website - http://www.robertmoir.co.uk
Virtual PC 2004 FAQ - http://www.robertmoir.co.uk/win/VirtualPC2004FAQ.html

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[*Vanguard*]

Wrong.

Microsoft and Sun signed an agreement to allow the MS JVM continue to
be used till 2009.

See
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2004/apr04/04-02SunAgreementPR.asp.
If it is indeed a 10-year agreement, wouldn't that mean that Microsoft's
JVM flavor would be available until 2014 (instead of 2009)? Yet
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/ says MS can provide their JVM
until 2007. They have not updated their product lifecycle web page at
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];LifeDevToolFam
which says MS JVM dies as of 30-Sep-2004. Of course, that doesn't
require Microsoft to actually provide a JVM. That just allows to to
provide one *if* they so choose. Microsoft is not really a proponent of
Java as they have always preferred their own technologies.

Note in the article that it says, "The companies have agreed that
Microsoft may continue to provide product support for the Microsoft Java
Virtual Machine that customers have deployed in Microsoft's products."
Well, support is not the same as development. See
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=163637 which says, "Microsoft does not
provide a downloadable version of the Microsoft VM for computers that do
not already have the Microsoft VM installed." As it is now, the JVM
will get updated if and only if it is already installed (and it isn't
available in all configurations of Windows but may get installed with
some applications, like Visual Studio 6). If there is no further
development of the JVM (to match Sun's) then it is basically a defunct
product that merely exists but does not evolve and which users won't
want for much longer and may be unusable for Java apps that require new
features of fixes only available in the Sun JVM.

 

[Jim Byrd]

Hi Frank - Both Java VM's can co-exist on your machine quite nicely. Just
select which one you want to use in Tools|Internet Options|Advanced and
restart all IE browsers. Here, courtesy of Mitch Gallant, MVP Security, is a
tiny utility which allows you to toggle and view status of your current Java
VM vendor associated with IE:
http://www.jensign.com/JavaScience/SelectIEJVM/index.html

A note from Mitch Gallant:

"One note about the JVM Selector utility: If/when you install a new
version of Sun J2SE, you need to manually select to have Sun JVM as default
JVM for IE (in install), or after install via the JavaPlugin control panel.
This generates the necessary win32 registry entries, which must be present
for the utility to know about JavaPlugin. After that, the utility should
work properly."

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Please respond in the same thread.
Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP



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