Vista XP no joy

[Twig]

*banging head on desk*

We never find networking easy.

I'm running Vista Home Premium.
The husband is running XP.

We have a network hub. I'm hooked into it. The cable modem is hooked into
it. The husband's computer is hooked into it. All via network connections.

He and I both can access the internet so that indicates that the hardware is
working.

At one point our computers could see each other on the network. They no
longer can. I had computer issues and ended up reinstalling Vista. I don't
know if it stopped working before that or not. His computer has not changed
at all since then so I believe the problem is on my end.

Both computers are on the workgroup named 1234 (original, eh?) and it's a
private network

I have all the following "on"
Network Discovery
File sharing
Public folder sharing
Printer sharing
Password protected sharing
Media sharing

I have several directories on my box that are "shared" as does my husband.

I "connect" to the workgroup and can see only my computer.
The husband "connects" to the workgroup and can see only his computer.
Both can see the internet.

For troubleshooting purposes I have:

Turned off McAfee Firewall and turned on Windows Firewall.

Turned off both firewalls.

I have tried to connect by typing \\jodyjvr (the name of his computer) in
the "search" bar when you open the start menu. If I press enter after
typing it nothing happens eventually I get a Network Error that says Windows
cannot acess \\jodyjvr. I click Diagnose in that window and I get a
Windows Network Diagnostics window that says that says that network
diagnostics pinged the remote host but did not receive a response.
Resetting the network adapter didn't make any difference.

I have made an account for him on my computer that has the same user name
and password as he uses to access his computer.

I have deleted the account for him.

I don't know what else to do.

I have doublechecked his settings to ensure he didn't change them without
telling me. He hasn't.

What else should I check?

Thanks.

 

[JerryM \(ID\)]

Are both computers using the same protocol?

 

[Papa]

I know advanced college students who must rely on their university IT
department to enable and keep running their internet and intranet
connections. Those in private businesses do the same, i.e., rely on experts
in their IT department. People who have home networks are really behind the
eightball for networking because networking is extraordinarily (and in my
opinion unnecessarily) complex. I have managed to establish and maintain my
home network, but I have a degree in computer science and years of
experience.

Someday networking will be "User Friendly", but that day is not here yet.

 

[Keith D]

I have all the following "on"
Network Discovery
File sharing
Public folder sharing
Printer sharing
Password protected sharing
Media sharing

I Think most have turned off!!!! password protection

For troubleshooting purposes I have:

Turned off McAfee Firewall and turned on Windows Firewall.

Turned off both firewalls.

not sure about McAFee but third party firewalls
have proved to be a pain in the A

i have similar setup mine was cured by MS tech help line
first i had to do was totally delete programme with third party firewall

apparently !!!!????? turning them off does not help
they still run inbackground

also you may wish to check your router
some dont like Vista

this may ??? help your cause as its got 30 day free trial
you cant really loose out

http://www.networkmagic.com/download/

you will need to install and run in both computers

cheers for now

Keith D.

 

[Twig]

As in setting the computers both to use Microsoft Windows Network in the
network properties? If so, I don't know. I know that's what he's using and
I could tell you if I were using that if I had Win2k on my computer, but I
can't find any of that junk in Vista. Everytime I find it, I lose it.
(Don't get me started on nothing being all together! *laugh*)

Are both computers using the same protocol?

 

[Twig]

Found it! I have Client for Microsoft Networks and File and Printer Sharing
for Microsoft Networks checked as well at QoS Packet Scheduler, Internet
Protocol Version 6 and 4, and then LLTD stuff.

I didn't see anything about TCP/IPv4 or TCP/IPv6 on the XP machine but
that's as foreign to me as Vista.

Thanks

Are both computers using the same protocol?

 

[Guest]

Lesley -

<<.....What else should I check?>>

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/evaluate/vista_fp.mspx

That reference should help a lot; I found it by running thru the threads
around here. You are having a very common issue in these threads; Vista is
not home network plug&play out of the box. Your story is very similar to my
experience except I never touched the settings in McAfee (on a Gateway w/V.
Ult.) I finally got the network working just by fiddling with XPs and Vista
network settings. Now networking is sweet.

Except the one thing remaining that is probably fixable & I don't know how
yet is that I have to turn on XPs first; once they recognize each other, I
turn on the Vista and it joins in right away & file sharing works. If I turn
the Vista on first, no computer can ever file share w/the others. Sort of
like the king won't let the lower peasants into court once he's there.

T

 

[Twig]

Thanks for the link. I've printed it out and I'll go down the list.
Networks don't seem to like me. We had issues getting it to work when I was
running Win2K. I don't know how I got it to work then but when I did, it
stayed working. Now that I'm on Vista, I have to start all over again.
*sigh*

 

[Twig]

Thanks. I'll take a look at Network Magic. I *will* beat this if it's the
last thing I do.

 

[Kirk]

I've been using Network Magic for quite some time now, even prior to going
to Ultimate RC1 and RC2 when both my home machines were XPSP2. Now that I'm
full Ultimate and my wife is XPSP2 I find it almost indispensible. It has
helped me resolve some networking problems associated with Vista and XP.
She's wireless and I'm connected directly. Nice and easy setup and
maintenance.

 

[Twig]

It certainly wasn't the most graceful solution.

I used the router compatibility page and found that my router passed all the
tests except for the Universal PnP but the site says that just means I won't
be able to use the advanced networking features of Vista, but that it should
work as well as it did on the old computer.

I still couldn't get a connection. So I downloaded Network Magic. It
couldn't "see" my router. GRRRRR. Since the husband's birthday is Sunday
and he's always wanted to go wireless, I got a new wireless router.

Vista automatically saw it. We were connected. WOOHOO!

Thanks for all the suggestions.

 

[Karl Froelich [MS]]

What kind of router did you have; and what did you replace it with?

K.

It certainly wasn't the most graceful solution.

I used the router compatibility page and found that my router passed all
the tests except for the Universal PnP but the site says that just means I
won't be able to use the advanced networking features of Vista, but that
it should work as well as it did on the old computer.

I still couldn't get a connection. So I downloaded Network Magic. It
couldn't "see" my router. GRRRRR. Since the husband's birthday is Sunday
and he's always wanted to go wireless, I got a new wireless router.

Vista automatically saw it. We were connected. WOOHOO!

Thanks for all the suggestions.

 

[Twig]

The old one (used successfully with a Win2K/XP network) was really an
ethernet switch. Netgear's FS 605v2.

The new one (for the Vista/Xp network) is a Netgear wireless router, model
WGR614v6

What kind of router did you have; and what did you replace it with?

K.

 

[...winston]

UPnP is not necessary to network.
Many routers have an option to enable UPnP, if enabled you may pass the
test(takes awhile to complete that single test since a variety of ports are
created, tested, then removed).

...winston

It certainly wasn't the most graceful solution.

I used the router compatibility page and found that my router passed all
the tests except for the Universal PnP but the site says that just means I
won't be able to use the advanced networking features of Vista, but that
it should work as well as it did on the old computer.

I still couldn't get a connection. So I downloaded Network Magic. It
couldn't "see" my router. GRRRRR. Since the husband's birthday is Sunday
and he's always wanted to go wireless, I got a new wireless router.

Vista automatically saw it. We were connected. WOOHOO!

Thanks for all the suggestions.