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Shane Nokes
Really?
I live near campus and can check this story out.
What division did you work for and who was your PM?
I live near campus and can check this story out.
What division did you work for and who was your PM?
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Shane Nokes
No, just smarter than you 
Adam Albright said:
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Zim Babwe
What story do you need to check out and why? Don't believe me? I don't
care, and I'm not going to give out personal information on the web anyway.
care, and I'm not going to give out personal information on the web anyway.
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Shane Nokes
I don't need personal information.
I'm just asking who your PM was.
Heck even your MS alias would work.
That or heck even if you could possibly tell me what building Steptoe is in,
or perhaps where the Millennium Group building is in relation to the other
campus buildings.
That way no personally identifiable information is being passed on.
Also I wouldn't say it's a matter of disbelief, more one of skepticism due
to the way you say certain things.
It just doesn't sound like you've ever been on the inside.
I'm just asking who your PM was.
Heck even your MS alias would work.
That or heck even if you could possibly tell me what building Steptoe is in,
or perhaps where the Millennium Group building is in relation to the other
campus buildings.
That way no personally identifiable information is being passed on.
Also I wouldn't say it's a matter of disbelief, more one of skepticism due
to the way you say certain things.
It just doesn't sound like you've ever been on the inside.
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Frankster
john said:
UA can tell you if something you are running and that is in its database is
NOT compatible. Believe it. But it cannot tell you if any given piece of
software/hardware in the universe IS compatible. So don't expect that.
-Frank
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john
Frankster said:
Right, if UA says something is NOT compatible, you CAN believe it.
And if it says a piece of hardware IS compatible, you can NOT believe it.
That was -exactly- my point. It was also my experience. 4 times
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"If you can't make it good, at least make it look good."
- Bill Gates
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Greg
Actually I believe until recently (maybe even now?) the space shuttles were
still using Commodore 64s to run some of their processing tasks! They're
probably still more reliable than Vista would be!
still using Commodore 64s to run some of their processing tasks! They're
probably still more reliable than Vista would be!
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John Locke
Worse yet...on reentry !!
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Frankster
Ah... but... it never ever tells you anything IS compatible. Never. Don't
think for one minute that just because it doesn't show on the bad list that
it is okay. It just means it might be okay. But... not okay is definitely
not okay.
-Frank
think for one minute that just because it doesn't show on the bad list that
it is okay. It just means it might be okay. But... not okay is definitely
not okay.
-Frank
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Shane Nokes
A relative of mine worked for NASA as a computer engineer for quite
sometime.
The shuttles use custom built hardware with custom-built OS'es.
They've never used Commodores *rolls eyes*
sometime.
The shuttles use custom built hardware with custom-built OS'es.
They've never used Commodores *rolls eyes*
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Shane Nokes
Wow I was tired when posting that, grammar errors galore 
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john
Frankster said:
....right, which is why it's just a marketing tool.
they package it however, to be somethign much more "official".
Users are being told left and right here to use this thing.
look at the software lists for a minute:
Microsoft released TWO Vista-Compatible Logo Lists (for software
compatibility)
(http://support.microsoft.com/kb/933305)
There's the "Certified for Windows Vista" List, then there's the "Works with
Windows Vista" List.
The first one pretty much guarantees it will work in Vista, while the second
only IMPLIES that it MIGHT.
RE: the Upgrade Advisor, you said "...it never ever tells you anything IS
compatible..."
OK, but it definitely DOES tell you "...No Issues were detected for these
devices..."
Saying "we didn't see anything" is not the same as "it will work", I agree.
But where I come from we have a saying, "Not telling the whole truth is the
same thing as lying"
iow, Marketing.
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Adam Albright
That was obvious a joke.
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Frankster
Ah... but... it never ever tells you anything IS compatible. Never. Don't
Well, I disagree. I think it is better than nothing. The fact of the matter
is that the responsibility for any OS change rests with the owner. Period,
pretty much. Some of us have been through many OS changes (not only MS).
Some of us haven't. The ones that have been through many OS changes already
know this. The ones that haven't, don't.
-Frank
Well, I disagree. I think it is better than nothing. The fact of the matter
is that the responsibility for any OS change rests with the owner. Period,
pretty much. Some of us have been through many OS changes (not only MS).
Some of us haven't. The ones that have been through many OS changes already
know this. The ones that haven't, don't.
-Frank
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Frankster
However, I can also assure you that MS has made tremendous inroads into
Under controlled conditions, the MS OS is fine. They keyword is controlled.
This means no non-MS software other than mission-specific custom software.
-Frank
Under controlled conditions, the MS OS is fine. They keyword is controlled.
This means no non-MS software other than mission-specific custom software.
-Frank
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Frankster
No change in my statement. Changing an OS is a major risk. Always was and
always will be. Just becuase your situation worked out does not mean there
was not major risk.
-Frank
always will be. Just becuase your situation worked out does not mean there
was not major risk.
-Frank
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David R. Norton, MVP Shell/User
Adam Albright said:
Yeah, everyone knows NASA uses TRS-80s....
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Nina DiBoy
Shane said:
I thought the shuttles ran on 08086 or 286 hardware? I could totally be
wrong, just something I read somewhere.
--
Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html
Most recent idiotic quote added to KICK (Klassic Idiotic Caption Kooks):
"DRM is not added to anything in Vista."
"Good poets borrow; great poets steal."
- T. S. Eliot
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Shane Nokes
That would be computers inside of Mission Control.
The shuttles have always been custom-built from the ground up.
As for people saying it's a joke I realize that, but on here people post all
kinds of erroneous crap.
It's really exhausting trying to correct it all
The shuttles have always been custom-built from the ground up.
As for people saying it's a joke I realize that, but on here people post all
kinds of erroneous crap.
It's really exhausting trying to correct it all
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john
Shane Nokes said:..people post all kinds of erroneous crap.
It's really exhausting trying to correct it all
I think I speak for us all when I say that you're doing a fantastic job.
I can't imagine these NG's sustaining themselves without all the hard work
and dedication of guys like you.
We appreciate it.
Really.