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Al Dykes
What are the nntp newsgroups for Vista? My ISP will carry anything
they can get to but sometimes they need to get asked.
Thanks
they can get to but sometimes they need to get asked.
Thanks
M
Malke
Al said:
Why not use Microsoft's servers for MS public newsgroups? The server
name is msnews.microsoft.com and no username or password are required.
Here are the Vista newsgroups:
microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
microsoft.public.windows.vista.administration_account
microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
microsoft.public.windows.vista.mail
microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
microsoft.public.windows.vista.print_fax_scan
microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
Malke
A
Al Dykes
Does msnews.microsoft.com talk to my trn3/nntp setup?
Life is much too short to read Usenet news via a gui interface or the
dumb client-centric client/server model that PC news readers implement
or to go to multiple servers daily.
I'll give it a try unless someone says it's futile.
G
Gordon
Al Dykes said:
M
Malke
Al said:
I think you're misunderstanding news servers. There are many news
servers in the world, all of them using the NNTP protocol. Most news
servers provided by ISP's offer quite a few public newsgroups. My ISP
contracts with Giganews which offers thousands of groups. There are also
private news servers owned by companies which host public newsgroups to
support those companies' products. Most big companies run their own news
servers such as Microsoft, Novell, Corel, to name a few. The newsgroups
hosted on private (company) news servers may or may not be carried by
your ISP's news server.
When you want to connect to a news server, you need the server address
and if a username/password is required. For instance, as I said the
Microsoft news server is msnews.microsoft.com and no username/password
is required. I have no idea what "trn3/nntp setup" means, but all you
need to do is open your newsreader and create a new server account.
Malke
A
Al Dykes
thanks
trn3 *is* my newsreader.
P
Paul Johnson
Al said:
Consider checking the newsgroups list on nntp://msnews.microsoft.com, which
has a full microsoft.* feed.
nntp://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.vista.general would be
this newsgroup's Vista equivalent, though you should also check the rest of
m.p.w.vista.* for a possibly more relevant group.
A
Al Dykes
Thanks, My ISP has already started getting the vista groups from
MS. (Yes we run our own news server.)
K
Ken Blake, MVP
Al said:
My recommendation is get Microsoft newsgroups directly from Microsoft's
server, as recommened above, rather than from the server provided by your
ISP. You get messages more quickly, you have less riskof dropped messages
etc.
I don't know anything about the newsreader you use, but most newsreaders can
easily handle multiple servers. I use Windows Mail (called Outlook Express
in Windows XP and earlier) and I use five different news servers with it.
R
Rock
When going through an ISP's news server there can be time delays and other
propagation problems. That's why for best results with the MS newsgroups
set up a separate news account for the MS server.
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Al Dykes
My wristwatch time is MUCH more valuable than some undefined delay in
the pipeline. I can blow through 100x as much usenet posting on a
Unix shell-based news reader than I can in a PC-centric package like
Thunderbird or OE becuase the client-server rigidity of the PC. I
avoid web-based chat groups for day-to-day use although the new WEB
2.0/ajax stuff is getting pretty good on a fast ethernet connection.
Think of trn and related readers as the emacs of news readers; fast,
text based, kbd-centric and extremely potent of you know it. It's
only been around in some version for 20 years. I'd be more productive
with trn on a 9600 dial-up than with TB/OE on a broadband connection.
Besides, I got an answer to this post in minutes from one of you guys,
via our news server feeds (both ways) and that is normal unless there
is a problem somewhere. I think everything will continue to be fine.
However I get this stuff, thanks for all the bits.
R
Rock
I'm not sure I understand your response. I didn't recommend any particular
newsreader and certainly I didn't recommend the web interface. I suggested
you access the MS news server directly with your nntp newsreader. But
whatever you want to do.
P
Paul Johnson
Rock said:
) In Simplified Microsoft English: His site is pulling articles just fineand he'd rather not deal with the connection lag between articles pulling
them directly from Microsoft when they're propagating fine to a more
responsive news server on his local network. I can't say I blame him, I
have a similar setup locally as well.