Vista MCE (ehSched) wakes PC at 3.00am

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Chris50259

Since I installed a TV card in my Vista Home Premium desktop, the computer
wakes every night at 3.00am to download an updated program guide (using Media
Center). I have investigated this problem and it is being caused by ehSched
running. No amount of twiddling with optimizers, power settings or task
schedules will fix it (it is not even listed as a hidden task). A small
program posted here http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/thread/21568.aspx fixes
the problem temporarily but then it seems that when mcupdate runs, it re-sets
ehSched to 3.00am! Since the computer is located in the bedroom, it wakes me
at 3.00am too!

I understand that stopping mcupdate fixes the problem but that's a bit
drastic since that seems to stop all media center updating!

Whoever in Microsoft thought that waking a computer at 3.00am to carry out a
task that could wait until it was next switched on was a great idea clearly
has a limited grasp of real-world PC use!

Come on you experts - there must be a way to fix this either by stopping
ehSched from waking the PC (so that it runs only when the PC is running - I
am currently having to shut down the PC every night and then ehSched runs at
start-up) or resetting the time it runs permanently.

Thanks in advance

Chris
 
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Curt

In media center, tasks, settings, general, automatic download options, there
is a manual download option.

This might work if you change it to manual.

Curt
 
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Chris50259

Thanks Curt - unfortunately the Event Viewer still shows a scheduled download
at 3.00am! What I really want to do is to keep the scheduled downloads but
either move them to a more convenient time, or, even better to keep them
where they are but stop the event waking the PC!
 
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Curt

Just out of curiousity, when is your optimization scheduled?

general tab under tasks.

Curt
 
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Curt

Also, try taskschd.msc. In the task scheduler library, there is a check box
under conditions for waking the PC. You may have already tried that as well,
I don't know.

the problem is that it may affect your recording schedule if you have the
tv card set to record shows. Under the proerties tag, on the
right hand side of the page, you can reset the time, but if the mcupdate
is changing the time back to 3 am, then this may or may not work.

If under settings, you disable wake, you can still have it download the
guide
from the settings page.

Again, it may or may not work. If mcupdate is the culprit, you can open
an issue with Microsoft.

Curt
 
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Chris50259

Hi Curt,

The only related task I can find in taskschd.msc is mcupdate (not ehSched)
and the box to wake the PC is not checked. This is with "show hidden tasks"
checked. Do you think I should be able to find ehSched - if I could it might
solve my problem!

I don't use the recording scheduler.

I tried to raise an issue with Microsoft but they wanted £46 + VAT for the
privilege of sorting out my problem!

Regards

Chris
 
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Curt

In taskschd.msc, try clicking on task scheduler library, microsoft, then
click
on windows, then media center.

If that doesn't work, then from the main page, double click at the bottom
pane on one of the running tasks there. That may populate the list.

Curt
 
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Chris50259

Hi Curt,
Already tried that - no joy unfortunately. Get mcupdate (plus a couple of
others) but no ehSched.
:-(
 
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Curt

Ok, is there a task that shows your tv card, or something that
has tv in it, or maybe guide? I don't see it in my computer, so it
may be attached to the tv card program.

Curt
 
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Chris50259

Nope. Been through all tasks. The only other that gets close is a DRM
checker.

ehSched is the task I need to alter properties for, but it doesn't show up
anywhere I can find.

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Curt

Well, there has to be a parent task somewhere. When is MCupdate set
to run? If that's at 3, then maybe changing the settinsg for that might
work...

Otherwise, I am at a loss.

Curt
 
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Curt

ehDRMinit is the parent task. Under conditions, is it set to wake the
computer?
If it is deselect it, then in settings run task as soon as possible.

Curt
 
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Chris50259

Hi Curt - I think mcupdate is the parent task - this runs at 20.25 every day
and is not set to wake the computer. When mcupdate runs, it resets the run
time of ehSched to 3.00am (as noted at the start of the thread, I found a
program to change the time of ehSched running - this works but then the time
change is undone once mcupdate runs and ehSched is then reset to 3.00am).

ehDRMinit ran this morning when I switched on the PC (I have to shut it down
every night otherwise it wakes at 3.00am as per the thread title then that
wakes me!) but has no next run time listed. Wake computer is not ticked on
this task either.

Regards

Chris
 
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Curt

Then it's got to be a Microsoft issue. You can go to their
website and try to get help with the issue via the internet.

Maybe someone else knows how to open a ticket. I don't.
But if their update program is doing it and you can't change
it, then they own the issue. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

If there's no way for a user to change it, then we're
wasitng our time.

If they know how to do it, and I am pretty certain that if it can
be done that they would, then I can't see why they'd keep it a secret.
So give them a shout over the net.

Or try microsoft.public.windows.mediacenter They may know.

Good luck Chris.

Curt
 
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Chris50259

Hi Curt,

Thanks for all your suggestions. I have not been able to find a way to get
a support incident raised with Microsoft without going through the "pay us
£65/$130" page!

Actually I think your earlier suggestion of turning off automatic updating
may have worked after all. At the time, I thought it hadn't as the event
viewer was still showing next event for ehSched as 03.00 the following
morning. But it is still showing the same date/time (now 03.00 this morning
past) and it hasn't run since. I will leave the PC on overnight tonight with
fingers crossed. Will post result!

Its not the ideal solution (since it means I have to manually download
updates) but it is a lot better than the PC waking!

Again many thanks for all your time and suggestions.

Chris
 
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Curt

That's great. You can change the time on that to run at a more decent hour
if it works.

Unless MCupdate changes it to 3 am every time it runs, but it's
easy to check.
 
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Chris50259

Hi Curt - to close this off - I'm pleased to report that the PC did not wake
last night. As I said, not the ideal solution as I now have to run the
updates manually (there is still no way I can find to change the time ehSched
runs automatically or to prevent it waking the PC when it runs) but at least
it no longer acts as my 3.00am alarm clock!

Thanks again for you assistance.
 

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