Vista is the dinosaur that will become exctinct


K

kraken

The dinosaurs died most likely because of climatologically changes.

Vista and all Vistiod OS's (Vistoid = Vista-like Operating systems that have
grown to monsterous porportions) will die because of economic change.

Vista is too big, bloated and needs too much CPU power to do things that a
far leaner OS could do.

This growth of need for CPU power and disk space will end. When? In the next
5 years.

The reason for this economic change, is the upcoming energy crisis that will
drive technology to become far more efficient.

This means that the new OS's of the future will not need so much CPU power
just to get their big fat behind off the ground (see vista the best
example),
nor so much hard disk space nor display adaptors that consume more power
than a microwave oven.

This also means that the speed of hardware upgrades that you will be able to
do (due to cost) will be further apart, since producing computer parts needs
energy to be made.

Gone will be the days when each new version of windows forces you to throw
out your old computer and buy a new one.
You would never throw a comptuer in the trash... because the costs of
replacing it will be too great.

New systems that will not be dependant so much on local hardware will be
built, so that very little energy will be needed to run these, thus the
desktop OS in its current form will die.

Although chips do have more processing power and use less energy for that
same processing power, the growing prices to produce these products, will
grow so much that new hardware will be costly. The result of this will be a
decline in the advancement of faster more powerful chips...

rather the companies will start to offer more and more GREEN CPUs. OF course
this means that hard disks that thrash all the time, and dislay adaptors
that use 500 watts are out of the question. Thus the whole Vista - SUV style
of computing will end.

It is crazy, but if you go to a computer store now you will fine 1 KW Power
Supply Units. That is 1000 watts.

Just imagine what would happen if you had to BURN OIL next to your computer
just to run it... you would be pouring the oil in that bioler and pouring
and pouring,
just to FEED that energy hugry Vista computer.

Now imagine all the comptuers of all the world that are on now, and how much
OIL they are burning. Its insane.

Sorry, the future will be very different. UNLESS a miracle alternative
source of energy would be revealed to humanity.
 
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Jim

kraken said:
The dinosaurs died most likely because of climatologically changes.

Vista and all Vistiod OS's (Vistoid = Vista-like Operating systems that
have grown to monsterous porportions) will die because of economic change.

Vista is too big, bloated and needs too much CPU power to do things that a
far leaner OS could do.

This growth of need for CPU power and disk space will end. When? In the
next 5 years.

The reason for this economic change, is the upcoming energy crisis that
will drive technology to become far more efficient.

This means that the new OS's of the future will not need so much CPU power
just to get their big fat behind off the ground (see vista the best
example),
nor so much hard disk space nor display adaptors that consume more power
than a microwave oven.

This also means that the speed of hardware upgrades that you will be able
to do (due to cost) will be further apart, since producing computer parts
needs energy to be made.

Gone will be the days when each new version of windows forces you to throw
out your old computer and buy a new one.
You would never throw a comptuer in the trash... because the costs of
replacing it will be too great.

New systems that will not be dependant so much on local hardware will be
built, so that very little energy will be needed to run these, thus the
desktop OS in its current form will die.

Although chips do have more processing power and use less energy for that
same processing power, the growing prices to produce these products, will
grow so much that new hardware will be costly. The result of this will be
a decline in the advancement of faster more powerful chips...

rather the companies will start to offer more and more GREEN CPUs. OF
course this means that hard disks that thrash all the time, and dislay
adaptors that use 500 watts are out of the question. Thus the whole
Vista - SUV style of computing will end.

It is crazy, but if you go to a computer store now you will fine 1 KW
Power Supply Units. That is 1000 watts.

Just imagine what would happen if you had to BURN OIL next to your
computer just to run it... you would be pouring the oil in that bioler and
pouring and pouring,
just to FEED that energy hugry Vista computer.

Now imagine all the comptuers of all the world that are on now, and how
much OIL they are burning. Its insane.

Sorry, the future will be very different. UNLESS a miracle alternative
source of energy would be revealed to humanity.

*YAWN*
 
M

Mike Hall - MVP

kraken said:
The dinosaurs died most likely because of climatologically changes.

Vista and all Vistiod OS's (Vistoid = Vista-like Operating systems that
have grown to monsterous porportions) will die because of economic change.

Vista is too big, bloated and needs too much CPU power to do things that a
far leaner OS could do.

This growth of need for CPU power and disk space will end. When? In the
next 5 years.

The reason for this economic change, is the upcoming energy crisis that
will drive technology to become far more efficient.

This means that the new OS's of the future will not need so much CPU power
just to get their big fat behind off the ground (see vista the best
example),
nor so much hard disk space nor display adaptors that consume more power
than a microwave oven.

This also means that the speed of hardware upgrades that you will be able
to do (due to cost) will be further apart, since producing computer parts
needs energy to be made.

Gone will be the days when each new version of windows forces you to throw
out your old computer and buy a new one.
You would never throw a comptuer in the trash... because the costs of
replacing it will be too great.

New systems that will not be dependant so much on local hardware will be
built, so that very little energy will be needed to run these, thus the
desktop OS in its current form will die.

Although chips do have more processing power and use less energy for that
same processing power, the growing prices to produce these products, will
grow so much that new hardware will be costly. The result of this will be
a decline in the advancement of faster more powerful chips...

rather the companies will start to offer more and more GREEN CPUs. OF
course this means that hard disks that thrash all the time, and dislay
adaptors that use 500 watts are out of the question. Thus the whole
Vista - SUV style of computing will end.

It is crazy, but if you go to a computer store now you will fine 1 KW
Power Supply Units. That is 1000 watts.

Just imagine what would happen if you had to BURN OIL next to your
computer just to run it... you would be pouring the oil in that bioler and
pouring and pouring,
just to FEED that energy hugry Vista computer.

Now imagine all the comptuers of all the world that are on now, and how
much OIL they are burning. Its insane.

Sorry, the future will be very different. UNLESS a miracle alternative
source of energy would be revealed to humanity.


Hardware 'power development' is not driven by the OS. Hardware becomes more
able and the operating system is developed to best make use of it..
 
F

Frank

kraken wrote:


....one of the most ignorant and ill informed diatribes to ever be post here.
Are you really that stupid?
Wait...I think that was a rhetorical question.
Frank
 
K

kraken

tell that to all those people who need to buy new hardware, upgrade their
cpu, ram and hard disks or even buy whole new computers just to use vista

tell that to all those people who need new printers and scanners and other
hardware because the old ones that worked very well before cant work with
vista

and tell that to all those people that learned all this vista resource
hunger and incompatibilities AFTER they spended all their money to buy vista
from the shelf.

dont tell me about the advisor. That is a tool that doesnt do much. In fact
it gives misleading and usless information.
 
J

Jim

kraken said:
tell that to all those people who need to buy new hardware, upgrade their
cpu, ram and hard disks or even buy whole new computers just to use vista

tell that to all those people who need new printers and scanners and other
hardware because the old ones that worked very well before cant work with
vista

and tell that to all those people that learned all this vista resource
hunger and incompatibilities AFTER they spended all their money to buy
vista from the shelf.

dont tell me about the advisor. That is a tool that doesnt do much. In
fact it gives misleading and usless information.

"tell that to all those people who need to buy new hardware, upgrade their
cpu, ram and hard disks or even buy whole new computers just to use vista"

Srike one.
Faster prossesors, system bus speeds and faster memory came BEFORE vista.

"tell that to all those people who need new printers and scanners and other
hardware because the old ones that worked very well before cant work with "

Strike two.
Drivers are software not hardware.

"and tell that to all those people that learned all this vista resource
hunger and incompatibilities AFTER they spended all their money to buy vista
from the shelf."

Strike three....just for the way you spell "spended".
 
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Mike Hall - MVP

kraken said:
tell that to all those people who need to buy new hardware, upgrade their
cpu, ram and hard disks or even buy whole new computers just to use vista

tell that to all those people who need new printers and scanners and other
hardware because the old ones that worked very well before cant work with
vista

and tell that to all those people that learned all this vista resource
hunger and incompatibilities AFTER they spended all their money to buy
vista from the shelf.

dont tell me about the advisor. That is a tool that doesnt do much. In
fact it gives misleading and usless information.


My computer predated Vista by a couple of years. My scanner is eight years
old, my printer is 4 years old.

Each Windows OS upgrade has required more of everything than the previous
release. The computer user has a responsibility to ensure that their
hardware meets or exceeds the minimum specification for their chosen OS.

The Vista advisor is just that. It certainly gives the user more clue than
if it is assumed that everything will be ok.
 
K

kraken

My computer predated Vista by a couple of years. My scanner is eight years
old, my printer is 4 years old.

Your computer has poor performance with vista, or you are not using it to do
much.
As for the peripherals you just got lucky, I thought MVPs read posts in
these newsgroups since many people complain about these 2 problems
Each Windows OS upgrade has required more of everything than the previous
release.

That's what I am trying to tell you. This trend is going to end. Abruptly.
It cannot continue this way.

What will replace this technology is green cpus like this
http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/33544/135/

this means that you will still have processing power, but it will be running
a better OS
that is not power hungry like vista. The OS itself should be invisible to
the user and use almost no reasources.

Most likely candidates are some flavor of linux.
 
S

Spanky deMonkey

Better contact your primary care physician. You can still type. You need
to increase your medication.

Just FYI
 
M

Mike Hall - MVP

kraken said:
Your computer has poor performance with vista, or you are not using it to
do
much.
As for the peripherals you just got lucky, I thought MVPs read posts in
these newsgroups since many people complain about these 2 problems

release.

That's what I am trying to tell you. This trend is going to end. Abruptly.
It cannot continue this way.

What will replace this technology is green cpus like this
http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/33544/135/

this means that you will still have processing power, but it will be
running
a better OS
that is not power hungry like vista. The OS itself should be invisible to
the user and use almost no reasources.

Most likely candidates are some flavor of linux.


My computer does NOT have poor performance, and it isn't any one single
element which draws large chunks of power. It is the collective of all of
the parts.

Flavors of Linux are becoming decidedly top heavy too..
 
F

Frank

kraken said:
tell that to all those people who need to buy new hardware, upgrade their
cpu, ram and hard disks or even buy whole new computers just to use vista

Uhhh...obviously you have no idea what you're talking about. Are you
always this stupid?
Wait...don't answer that...we already know the answer
tell that to all those people who need new printers and scanners and other
hardware because the old ones that worked very well before cant work with
vista

Fukk! Do you have or have you ever used Vista? Are you in a mental
institution? How did you get on-line? Do the authorities know what
you're doing? did you take your eds?
You're a real fool.
Lock yourself up and swallow the key. Do us all this little favor cause
you're a menace to society.
Frank

p.s. you're a capin' crunch relative or wannabe right?
 
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K

kraken

Who said that XP is the best possible OS?

Vista is the worst possible solution, that is for sure!


Listen to this scenario.. one super computer powered by a hydroelectric
plant that can serve 10 million users,
the users connect to this super computer via the internet using very cheap
machines that consist of a keyboard with a cheap low power AMD 500 Mhz chip
inside, a lcd reflective light screen (see the screens used for the 1 laptop
per child of the third world project) and a mouse. Consumption of power?
Under 10 watts per "workstation"
thats 30 -50 times less than what you need now. These machines have no hard
drive at all, only a 10gb flash drive, information is stored non localy. The
cost of this machine would be $50, and the online service with all web
applications is run by google.

This machine is runing a flavor of Linux. Windows died after releasing its
doomsday machine OS called Vista.
 
J

Just.some.guy

Jim said:
"tell that to all those people who need to buy new hardware, upgrade their
cpu, ram and hard disks or even buy whole new computers just to use vista"

Srike one.
Faster prossesors, system bus speeds and faster memory came BEFORE vista.

"tell that to all those people who need new printers and scanners and
other
hardware because the old ones that worked very well before cant work with
"

Strike two.
Drivers are software not hardware.

"and tell that to all those people that learned all this vista resource
hunger and incompatibilities AFTER they spended all their money to buy
vista
from the shelf."

Strike three....just for the way you spell "spended".

Your reply was a spelling critique? That's sad.
 
F

Frank

Jim said:
"tell that to all those people who need to buy new hardware, upgrade their
cpu, ram and hard disks or even buy whole new computers just to use vista"

Srike one.
Faster prossesors, system bus speeds and faster memory came BEFORE vista.

"tell that to all those people who need new printers and scanners and other
hardware because the old ones that worked very well before cant work with "

Strike two.
Drivers are software not hardware.

"and tell that to all those people that learned all this vista resource
hunger and incompatibilities AFTER they spended all their money to buy vista
from the shelf."

Strike three....just for the way you spell "spended".
Nice pitching jim! :)
Frank
 
F

Frank

SilverWS602 said:
So lets just say for sake of argument I have a computer running windows
95/98 that has a pentium 2, 32mb of ram, and a 8gb hdd, and a printer
that does have have xp driver support (I don't thank god)

I want to upgrade to windows xp (cause everyone loves xp and hates
vista, right?).

By your argument:

XP is a waste because I have to upgrade / buy new hardware JUST TO run
a NEW os. XP uses more ram then 95/98, and when it first came out lots
of people had issues upgrading (sound familiar yet?)

Times change, hardware changes, and everyone time a new OS comes out
people b*tch that it's not as good as the pervious one. New OS's take
use of new hardware, and really don't care about the older stuff.

Would you complain if your 5 year old model car wasn't as fast and
couldn't use the parts from the newer, faster model? No, you wouldn't.

hehehe...problem is you're arguing with a mental midget who has access
to his moms computer...LOL!
Frank
 
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NoStop

Mike said:
Hardware 'power development' is not driven by the OS. Hardware becomes
more able and the operating system is developed to best make use of it..
Hardware has always been driven by increasing demands of software. Been
around the computer world long?

Cheers.

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Frank - seek help immediately! Visit ...
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F

Frank

kraken wrote:


....let me tell you a real truth capin' crunch...that cardboard space
ship you built in your mom's basement will never fly...I know that
crushes your ego immensely but as they say...the truth hurts...ouch!
Vista is the very best OS available today...oh I know that too crushes
your fragile little ego but hey...that's life! You're screwed...as once
again the truth hurts...big ouch!!!
Hey...go sit in your little space ship and contemplate your navel...and
always remember...things could will/be worse...LOL!
Frank

oh and one other point...just accept the fact that you are really and
truly not as bright as the rests of us. IOW's, you're pretty stupid!
 
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NoStop

Frank said:
kraken wrote:


...you lost as*hole!
Accept it like a man...LOL!
Idiot!
Frank

How would a turd like Frankie Boy, who doesn't understand computing today,
be able to wrap his injuried brain around the future of computing? The
future is server based running on virtual machines, with lowly client
computers accessing them for web services.

Cheers.

--
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Frank's Corporate Headquarters: Business Sign on his Bedroom Door ...
http://www.gneil.com/images/products/1slN1455.jpg

Frank - seek help immediately! Visit ...
http://www.binsa.org/
 

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