VERY, very slow shutdown

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Ted said:
lol...that's classic Marx Brothers! Thanks very much.
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You're welcome. As it happens, I resaw "Night at the Opera" last night, so
it popped into my memory as soon as I saw your question.
 
First Party: The place where the evening starts.
Second Party: The place you go after the First Party is over.
Third Party: The place you were at after the Second Party but don't
remember the next day.

John
 
In the regedit I see: No Data Type, Reg_Dword etc.

[Start] [Run] [Regedit]
Registry Key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session
Manager\Memory Management
Modify/Create the Value Data Type(s) and Value Name(s) as detailed below.
Data Type: REG_DWORD [Dword Value] // Value Name: ClearPageFileAtShutdown
Setting for Value Data: [0 = Clear Page File Disabled / 1 = Clear Page File
Enabled]
Exit Registry and Reboot
 
Ritter197 said:
In the regedit I see: No Data Type, Reg_Dword etc.

[Start] [Run] [Regedit]
Registry Key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session
Manager\Memory Management Modify/Create the Value Data Type(s) and Value
Name(s) as detailed
below. Data Type: REG_DWORD [Dword Value] // Value Name:
ClearPageFileAtShutdown Setting for Value Data: [0 = Clear Page
File Disabled / 1 = Clear Page File Enabled]
Exit Registry and Reboot
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In other words - you do not see the entry located:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory
Management

Called: ClearPageFileAtShutdown

That is good.
 
I HAD THE SAME PROBLEM A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WITH THE LAPTOP I'M USING NOW.
IT WOULD TAKE EXACTLY 2 MINUTES, 3 SECONDS FOR THE "TURN OFF", "RESTART",
"STANDBY" BUTTON TO COME UP, THEN ONCE PRESSING THE TURN OFF BUTTON, IT WOULD
TAKE EXACTLY 2 MINUTES 42 SECONDS TO COMPLETELY SHUT DOWN MY COMPUTER.
HERE IS HOW I FIXED IT, AND SINCE MY FIX, I'VE HAD ABSOLUTELY NO PROBELMS
WHATSOEVER:
CLICK AND OPEN YOUR CONTROL PANEL.
CLICK AND OPEN "PERFORMANCE AND MAINTENANCE"
IN THE UPPER LEFT HAND PANEL, CLICK "SYSTEM RESTORE"
ON THE LEFT CLICK "SYSTEM RESTORE SETTINGS"
IN THE SETTINGS WINDOW CHECK THE BOX FOR "TURN OFF SYSTEM RESTORE"
NOW, RESTART YOUR COMPUTER.
WHEN IT RESTARTS, IT WILL ASK YOU IF YOU WANT TO TURN SYSTEM RESTORE BACK ON.
THE SYSTEM RESTORE FILE BECOMES CORRUPTED SOMETIMES, AND THIS PROCEDURE
CLEANS IT OUT.
 
1. Don't post in caps. That means you're shouting, and is considered rude.

2. Since System Restore is not active during shutdown, it has no effect
on how quickly a computer shuts down. However, if the hard disk is
almost full, deleting restore points will free up space which can allow
shutdown to proceed faster.
 
I have talked to a lot of HP Techs now and the system still takes the
IMPOSSIBLE time of 9 Minutes and 27 Seconds to turn off.
No viruses, no adware, recent defrag.
 
YES I did download it and install it. Did not do the trick.
Shutdown takes 10 or more minutes.
 
Maybe it's an issue of defective hardware then. In this case you'll need to
call HP and have them replace it for you as it is still under warranty if it
is new.

-Dan
 
LittleMoo said:
Maybe it's an issue of defective hardware then. In this case you'll need
to call HP and have them replace it for you as it is still under warranty
if it is new.

-Dan
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Sorry, I wasn't paying attention very well (not enough coffee yet). I just
read how your computer shuts down fine in safe mode. Why don't you go into
the System Configuration Utitlity - go to Start -> Run, type in msconfig and
press enter. Go to the Startup tab and turn off one thing at a time so that
it doesn't load after the computer starts up. Then once your computer has
shut down properly you will have found your culprit software.

If this doesn't work you can always get a HiJackThis log or an Autoruns log
for us and we can try to figure out if something isn't supossed to be there.

HiJackThis: http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/programs.php#hijackthis
Autoruns: http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/Autoruns.html

-Dan
 
I thank all of you who tried to help. It just did not work.

Here is what I did:

I backed up a lot to another internal harddrive, which I installed.

Then, with some trepidation, I went to HP Restore, the F10 key.

It allowed a restore whith leaving all data files intact (what a great thing
that is, even though I backed it all up). I restored the HP way and all
works fine.

A startup of about 2 minutes and a shutdown of 1 minute.

The Applications I have to re-install, but that is easy, since it kept the
data files.

So, I am now very happy with HP again.

I thought you would want to know this all.
 
Glad to hear that it's working fine again. I was really looking foreward to
hearing what the exact problem was though. But all's well that ends well.

-Dan
 
Ritter197 said:
I have gotten a new 4400+ HP computer, dual core, with WindowsXP. SP#2

It takes sometimes forever (last night I went to bed and in the morning it
still had not shut down)

I have run 3 different programs (Ad-aware, Spybot search and destroy and
Adware away) plus an AV program NOD32. None find a problem.

I have also run a defrag with Diskkeeper 10 two days ago, ( it is also set
to defrag in the background) but it still has this big problem with
shutdown.

My 2.8Ghz computer shuts down almost immediately by comparison, running the
same Windows XP, SP #2 and many more programs.

What are your ideas here ?
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hello r197, you are running way to many anti/ spyware, virus software !
remove all .. is my advise EXCEPT nod 32 thats excellent sortware and remove
diskeeper defrage your own harddrive using maint.s and performances in widow
xp 2 ! click start button.. go to control paneland click on performances and
maintienes and defrag. that way also remove those programs by clicking on
start button go to control panel click on ADD AND REMOVE PROGRAMS . ALL THAT
FREE WARE IS TOO MUCH ! BEST REGUARDS, MICHAEL
 
ruffjustices said:
hello r197, you are running way to many anti/ spyware, virus software
! remove all .. is my advise
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Sorry, but that's very poor advice. He's running only a single anti-virus
program, and that's good. He's running multiple anti-spyware programs and
that's also good.

Note what Eric Howes, who has done extensive testing on Anti-Spyware
products, states:

"No single anti-spyware scanner removes everything. Even the best-performing
anti-spyware scanner in these tests missed fully one quarter of the
"critical" files and Registry entries" See
http://spywarewarrior.com/asw-test-guide.htm
 
i like you to remove all that EXCESS free spyware AND ANIT VIRAL ,
DISKKEEPER and excess software RUNNING SLOWING DOWN YOUR COMPUTER you can
all so check the TASK MANGER AND SEE HOW MANY PROGRAMS ARE RUNNING.. I'AM
RUNNING 59 1% CPU USAGE I HAVE DELL 3100 P4 HT 2.8 GHZ, genrally you want
less than 50 applications running in back ground. mike
 
Ritter197 said:
I have gotten a new 4400+ HP computer, dual core, with WindowsXP.
SP#2

It takes sometimes forever (last night I went to bed and in the
morning it still had not shut down)

I have run 3 different programs (Ad-aware, Spybot search and
destroy and Adware away) plus an AV program NOD32. None find a
problem.

I have also run a defrag with Diskkeeper 10 two days ago, ( it is
also set to defrag in the background) but it still has this big
problem with shutdown.

My 2.8Ghz computer shuts down almost immediately by comparison,
running the same Windows XP, SP #2 and many more programs.

What are your ideas here ?
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i like you to remove all that EXCESS free spyware AND ANIT VIRAL ,
DISKKEEPER and excess software RUNNING SLOWING DOWN YOUR COMPUTER
you can all so check the TASK MANGER AND SEE HOW MANY PROGRAMS ARE
RUNNING.. I'AM RUNNING 59 1% CPU USAGE I HAVE DELL 3100 P4 HT 2.8
GHZ, genrally you want less than 50 applications running in back
ground. mike
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Unfortunately - your advice is based off no knowledge.
Nothing (mentioned by the OP) other than the AntiVirus (NOD32) is actively
running anywhere until it is manually ran by the user.
This means there are no extra processes running in the background.

As far as your generality (# of applications running)... some people
actually utilize their systems. =)

To me - after following the thread in its entirity - the problem is a
hardware one. Of course the only way to actually prove (to the
manufacturer) this would be to make a disk image "as-is", format with
nothing but Windows XP and all patches and see if it runs okay. If it
does.. Start adding things back slowly. If you never get a slowdown -
something was infesting your computer - but it's okay now. If you get the
slowdown immediately - it is hardware or cruddy drivers. At least you have
the full backup.
 
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