Using W2K as Web server?

[Jem]

I want to set up a web server to:
run a front page web site with W2K server extentions
run .asp pages
run .php pages
run perle script
forums
surveys
flash
streaming video
etc.

What OS do I need or should I use?
Can I use W2K Pro SP1 with server extentions installed?

I read some KB articles and they said that W2K used as a
server can only handle 10 simultaneous connections, and
on average each user uses 3 connections... Does that mean
if I use W2K that only three people can access the stie
at the same time?

It will only be used for a web site.

Just starting out, so I don't know what else to ask, or
what other information I need to give right now...

Any suggestions / advice appreciated...

 

[Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP]]

What you say is true for Windows 2000 Pro (it can only have 10 connections).
Windows 2000 Server and Windows Server 2003 can have "unlimited"
connections, as they are really server OSes

--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.visualwin.com - A Windows Server 2003 visual, step-by-step
tutorial site
Only reply by newsgroup. Any emails I have not authorized are deleted
before I see them.

 

[Guest]

What is my best option if I don't need 'clients' and just
want a 'web server'? Should I just buy the server
application with the least amount of client support and
use it to run my web? Which version of W2K or W2003 is
best for me?

-----Original Message-----
What you say is true for Windows 2000 Pro (it can only have 10 connections).
Windows 2000 Server and Windows Server 2003 can have "unlimited"
connections, as they are really server OSes

--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.visualwin.com - A Windows Server 2003 visual, step-by-step
tutorial site
Only reply by newsgroup. Any emails I have not authorized are deleted
before I see them.

I want to set up a web server to:
run a front page web site with W2K server extentions
run .asp pages
run .php pages
run perle script
forums
surveys
flash
streaming video
etc.

What OS do I need or should I use?
Can I use W2K Pro SP1 with server extentions installed?

I read some KB articles and they said that W2K used as a
server can only handle 10 simultaneous connections, and
on average each user uses 3 connections... Does that mean
if I use W2K that only three people can access the stie
at the same time?

It will only be used for a web site.

Just starting out, so I don't know what else to ask, or
what other information I need to give right now...

Any suggestions / advice appreciated...

.

 

[Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP]]

Anybody accessing your web site is a client...are you only looking for a
local development machine?

--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.visualwin.com - A Windows Server 2003 visual, step-by-step
tutorial site
Only reply by newsgroup. Any emails I have not authorized are deleted
before I see them.

What is my best option if I don't need 'clients' and just
want a 'web server'? Should I just buy the server
application with the least amount of client support and
use it to run my web? Which version of W2K or W2003 is
best for me?

-----Original Message-----
What you say is true for Windows 2000 Pro (it can only have 10 connections).
Windows 2000 Server and Windows Server 2003 can have "unlimited"
connections, as they are really server OSes

--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.visualwin.com - A Windows Server 2003 visual, step-by-step
tutorial site
Only reply by newsgroup. Any emails I have not authorized are deleted
before I see them.

I want to set up a web server to:
run a front page web site with W2K server extentions
run .asp pages
run .php pages
run perle script
forums
surveys
flash
streaming video
etc.

What OS do I need or should I use?
Can I use W2K Pro SP1 with server extentions installed?

I read some KB articles and they said that W2K used as a
server can only handle 10 simultaneous connections, and
on average each user uses 3 connections... Does that mean
if I use W2K that only three people can access the stie
at the same time?

It will only be used for a web site.

Just starting out, so I don't know what else to ask, or
what other information I need to give right now...

Any suggestions / advice appreciated...

.

 

[Guest]

I want to run a web site off the server.
Currently I use a host to run my site.
I want to be able to have students access the page for
assignments, instruction, surves,forums, etc.
I beleive on average, I'll have 50 - 150 students
accessing the site at the same time.

-----Original Message-----
Anybody accessing your web site is a client...are you only looking for a
local development machine?

--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.visualwin.com - A Windows Server 2003 visual, step-by-step
tutorial site
Only reply by newsgroup. Any emails I have not authorized are deleted
before I see them.

What is my best option if I don't need 'clients' and just
want a 'web server'? Should I just buy the server
application with the least amount of client support and
use it to run my web? Which version of W2K or W2003 is
best for me?
visual,
step-by-step as
a

.

 

[Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP]]

Then you'll need a server edition. I, of course, suggest Windows Server
2003 because it's a lot easier and more secure than 2000, but it's really
your call

--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.visualwin.com - A Windows Server 2003 visual, step-by-step
tutorial site
Only reply by newsgroup. Any emails I have not authorized are deleted
before I see them.

I want to run a web site off the server.
Currently I use a host to run my site.
I want to be able to have students access the page for
assignments, instruction, surves,forums, etc.
I beleive on average, I'll have 50 - 150 students
accessing the site at the same time.

-----Original Message-----
Anybody accessing your web site is a client...are you only looking for a
local development machine?

--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.visualwin.com - A Windows Server 2003 visual, step-by-step
tutorial site
Only reply by newsgroup. Any emails I have not authorized are deleted
before I see them.

What is my best option if I don't need 'clients' and just
want a 'web server'? Should I just buy the server
application with the least amount of client support and
use it to run my web? Which version of W2K or W2003 is
best for me?

-----Original Message-----
What you say is true for Windows 2000 Pro (it can only
have 10 connections).
Windows 2000 Server and Windows Server 2003 can
have "unlimited"
connections, as they are really server OSes

--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.visualwin.com - A Windows Server 2003 visual,
step-by-step
tutorial site
Only reply by newsgroup. Any emails I have not
authorized are deleted
before I see them.


message
I want to set up a web server to:
run a front page web site with W2K server extentions
run .asp pages
run .php pages
run perle script
forums
surveys
flash
streaming video
etc.

What OS do I need or should I use?
Can I use W2K Pro SP1 with server extentions installed?

I read some KB articles and they said that W2K used as
a
server can only handle 10 simultaneous connections, and
on average each user uses 3 connections... Does that
mean
if I use W2K that only three people can access the stie
at the same time?

It will only be used for a web site.

Just starting out, so I don't know what else to ask, or
what other information I need to give right now...

Any suggestions / advice appreciated...


.

.

 

[Guest]

OK, I think I got it. One more question though. Since it
will be used as a WEB server and not a client server, can
I use the version with the least amount of clients? I.e.,
students will not log on to this server, only access the
WEB pages; surveys, forums, 'how to', pages etc. I guess
I'll be the only one logging on to load files and do
maintenance.

Thanks, I know some of these questions may seem rather
foolish, but I haven't clue and I've got to get started.

-----Original Message-----
Then you'll need a server edition. I, of course, suggest Windows Server
2003 because it's a lot easier and more secure than 2000, but it's really
your call

--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.visualwin.com - A Windows Server 2003 visual, step-by-step
tutorial site
Only reply by newsgroup. Any emails I have not authorized are deleted
before I see them.

I want to run a web site off the server.
Currently I use a host to run my site.
I want to be able to have students access the page for
assignments, instruction, surves,forums, etc.
I beleive on average, I'll have 50 - 150 students
accessing the site at the same time.

-----Original Message-----
Anybody accessing your web site is a client...are you only looking for a
local development machine?

visual,
step-by-step

tutorial site
Only reply by newsgroup. Any emails I have not authorized are deleted
before I see them.


What is my best option if I don't need 'clients' and just
want a 'web server'? Should I just buy the server
application with the least amount of client support and
use it to run my web? Which version of W2K or W2003 is
best for me?

-----Original Message-----
What you say is true for Windows 2000 Pro (it can only
have 10 connections).
Windows 2000 Server and Windows Server 2003 can
have "unlimited"
connections, as they are really server OSes

--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.visualwin.com - A Windows Server 2003 visual,
step-by-step
tutorial site
Only reply by newsgroup. Any emails I have not
authorized are deleted
before I see them.


message
I want to set up a web server to:
run a front page web site with W2K server extentions
run .asp pages
run .php pages
run perle script
forums
surveys
flash
streaming video
etc.

What OS do I need or should I use?
Can I use W2K Pro SP1 with server extentions installed?

I read some KB articles and they said that W2K

used
as

a
server can only handle 10 simultaneous

connections,
and

on average each user uses 3 connections... Does that
mean
if I use W2K that only three people can access

the
stie

at the same time?

It will only be used for a web site.

Just starting out, so I don't know what else to ask, or
what other information I need to give right now...

Any suggestions / advice appreciated...


.



.

.

 

[Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP]]

Hi,

I think you have some terminology wrong (which is fine, it's a bit confusing
at first)

Client = Someone accessing a resource
Authenticated Client = Someone who logged in to access a resource
Unauthenticated Client = Someone who is accessing a resource anonymously

Whether the students are logging on or accessing it anonymously, they are
still clients, and such you need a server to have more than 10 connections.
However, if they won't be logging on then you don't need CALs (Client Access
Licenses) since they are unauthenticated

--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.visualwin.com - A Windows Server 2003 visual, step-by-step
tutorial site
Only reply by newsgroup. Any emails I have not authorized are deleted
before I see them.

OK, I think I got it. One more question though. Since it
will be used as a WEB server and not a client server, can
I use the version with the least amount of clients? I.e.,
students will not log on to this server, only access the
WEB pages; surveys, forums, 'how to', pages etc. I guess
I'll be the only one logging on to load files and do
maintenance.

Thanks, I know some of these questions may seem rather
foolish, but I haven't clue and I've got to get started.

-----Original Message-----
Then you'll need a server edition. I, of course, suggest Windows Server
2003 because it's a lot easier and more secure than 2000, but it's really
your call

--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.visualwin.com - A Windows Server 2003 visual, step-by-step
tutorial site
Only reply by newsgroup. Any emails I have not authorized are deleted
before I see them.

I want to run a web site off the server.
Currently I use a host to run my site.
I want to be able to have students access the page for
assignments, instruction, surves,forums, etc.
I beleive on average, I'll have 50 - 150 students
accessing the site at the same time.

-----Original Message-----
Anybody accessing your web site is a client...are you
only looking for a
local development machine?

--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.visualwin.com - A Windows Server 2003 visual,
step-by-step
tutorial site
Only reply by newsgroup. Any emails I have not
authorized are deleted
before I see them.


What is my best option if I don't need 'clients' and
just
want a 'web server'? Should I just buy the server
application with the least amount of client support and
use it to run my web? Which version of W2K or W2003 is
best for me?

-----Original Message-----
What you say is true for Windows 2000 Pro (it can only
have 10 connections).
Windows 2000 Server and Windows Server 2003 can
have "unlimited"
connections, as they are really server OSes

--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.visualwin.com - A Windows Server 2003
visual,
step-by-step
tutorial site
Only reply by newsgroup. Any emails I have not
authorized are deleted
before I see them.


message
I want to set up a web server to:
run a front page web site with W2K server extentions
run .asp pages
run .php pages
run perle script
forums
surveys
flash
streaming video
etc.

What OS do I need or should I use?
Can I use W2K Pro SP1 with server extentions
installed?

I read some KB articles and they said that W2K used
as
a
server can only handle 10 simultaneous connections,
and
on average each user uses 3 connections... Does that
mean
if I use W2K that only three people can access the
stie
at the same time?

It will only be used for a web site.

Just starting out, so I don't know what else to
ask, or
what other information I need to give right now...

Any suggestions / advice appreciated...


.



.

.

 

[Guest]

Thanks.
So regardless of whether they log on or not - if they
access the site, I need to buy a server with the ability
to handle 50 clients at one time. Just out of curiosity,
how is a big site like this set up? I mean there could be
thousands of people accessing it at one time...

Anyway, last question for now, Jonathan, which version of
Windows 2003 do I need to set up the Web site with
anonymous authentication for at least 50 students st the
same time?

Guess I want to do what is listed below...

SNIPPED from W2K site...

Configuring Anonymous Authentication
Click Start, point to Programs, point to Administrative
Tools, and then click Internet Services Manager. (In
Windows 2000 Professional, you can start Administrative
Tools from Control Panel.)
Right-click * server name (where server name is the name
of the server), and then click Properties.
In the Master Properties box, click WWW Service (if it is
not already selected), and then click the Edit button
that is next to the Master Properties box.
Click the Directory Security tab.
Under Anonymous access and authentication control, click
Edit.
Under Authenticated access, select the Integrated Windows
authentication check box.
Select the Anonymous access check box, and then click
Edit. Note the user account in the Username box. This
account is used by Windows to authenticate anonymous
users when they browse the Web site.
Click OK, click OK, click OK, and then click OK.
back to the top

Basic Web Site Configuration
Start Internet Services Manager.
In the Tree list, expand * server name (where server name
is the name of the server).
Right-click Default Web Site, and then click Properties.
If you have multiple IP addresses assigned to your
computer, click the IP address that you want to assign to
this Web site in the IP Address box.
If you do not want unlimited connections to the Web site,
click Limited To, and then type the number of concurrent
connections that you want.

NOTE: Windows 2000 Professional is limited to 10
concurrent connections.

Thanks for all your help, and have a nice holiday!

-----Original Message-----
Hi,

I think you have some terminology wrong (which is fine, it's a bit confusing
at first)

Client = Someone accessing a resource
Authenticated Client = Someone who logged in to access a resource
Unauthenticated Client = Someone who is accessing a resource anonymously

Whether the students are logging on or accessing it anonymously, they are
still clients, and such you need a server to have more than 10 connections.
However, if they won't be logging on then you don't need CALs (Client Access
Licenses) since they are unauthenticated

--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.visualwin.com - A Windows Server 2003 visual, step-by-step
tutorial site
Only reply by newsgroup. Any emails I have not authorized are deleted
before I see them.

OK, I think I got it. One more question though. Since it
will be used as a WEB server and not a client server, can
I use the version with the least amount of clients? I.e.,
students will not log on to this server, only access the
WEB pages; surveys, forums, 'how to', pages etc. I guess
I'll be the only one logging on to load files and do
maintenance.

Thanks, I know some of these questions may seem rather
foolish, but I haven't clue and I've got to get started.

-----Original Message-----
Then you'll need a server edition. I, of course, suggest Windows Server
2003 because it's a lot easier and more secure than 2000, but it's really
your call

visual,
step-by-step

tutorial site
Only reply by newsgroup. Any emails I have not authorized are deleted
before I see them.


I want to run a web site off the server.
Currently I use a host to run my site.
I want to be able to have students access the page for
assignments, instruction, surves,forums, etc.
I beleive on average, I'll have 50 - 150 students
accessing the site at the same time.

-----Original Message-----
Anybody accessing your web site is a client...are you
only looking for a
local development machine?

--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.visualwin.com - A Windows Server 2003 visual,
step-by-step
tutorial site
Only reply by newsgroup. Any emails I have not
authorized are deleted
before I see them.


What is my best option if I don't need 'clients' and
just
want a 'web server'? Should I just buy the server
application with the least amount of client

support
and

use it to run my web? Which version of W2K or

W2003
is

best for me?

-----Original Message-----
What you say is true for Windows 2000 Pro (it

can
only

have 10 connections).
Windows 2000 Server and Windows Server 2003 can
have "unlimited"
connections, as they are really server OSes

--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.visualwin.com - A Windows Server 2003
visual,
step-by-step
tutorial site
Only reply by newsgroup. Any emails I have not
authorized are deleted
before I see them.


"Jem" <[email protected]>

wrote
in

message
I want to set up a web server to:
run a front page web site with W2K server extentions
run .asp pages
run .php pages
run perle script
forums
surveys
flash
streaming video
etc.

What OS do I need or should I use?
Can I use W2K Pro SP1 with server extentions
installed?

I read some KB articles and they said that W2K used
as
a
server can only handle 10 simultaneous connections,
and
on average each user uses 3 connections...

Does
that

mean
if I use W2K that only three people can access the
stie
at the same time?

It will only be used for a web site.

Just starting out, so I don't know what else to
ask, or
what other information I need to give right now...

Any suggestions / advice appreciated...


.



.



.

.

 

[Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP]]

Yup that's basically it. The same server that can hold 50 clients can (as
long as the hardware supports it) have thousands. That's how my site
started ;-)

But you're correct - to have more than 5 (since IE uses 2 connections at
once) users simultaneously you'll need a server OS. Which version of
Windows Server 2003 or 2000? Standard.

BTW - By default, IIS allows anonymous access, so you won't need to do
anything special for that

--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.visualwin.com - A Windows Server 2003 visual, step-by-step
tutorial site
Only reply by newsgroup. Any emails I have not authorized are deleted
before I see them.

Thanks.
So regardless of whether they log on or not - if they
access the site, I need to buy a server with the ability
to handle 50 clients at one time. Just out of curiosity,
how is a big site like this set up? I mean there could be
thousands of people accessing it at one time...

Anyway, last question for now, Jonathan, which version of
Windows 2003 do I need to set up the Web site with
anonymous authentication for at least 50 students st the
same time?

Guess I want to do what is listed below...

SNIPPED from W2K site...

Configuring Anonymous Authentication
Click Start, point to Programs, point to Administrative
Tools, and then click Internet Services Manager. (In
Windows 2000 Professional, you can start Administrative
Tools from Control Panel.)
Right-click * server name (where server name is the name
of the server), and then click Properties.
In the Master Properties box, click WWW Service (if it is
not already selected), and then click the Edit button
that is next to the Master Properties box.
Click the Directory Security tab.
Under Anonymous access and authentication control, click
Edit.
Under Authenticated access, select the Integrated Windows
authentication check box.
Select the Anonymous access check box, and then click
Edit. Note the user account in the Username box. This
account is used by Windows to authenticate anonymous
users when they browse the Web site.
Click OK, click OK, click OK, and then click OK.
back to the top

Basic Web Site Configuration
Start Internet Services Manager.
In the Tree list, expand * server name (where server name
is the name of the server).
Right-click Default Web Site, and then click Properties.
If you have multiple IP addresses assigned to your
computer, click the IP address that you want to assign to
this Web site in the IP Address box.
If you do not want unlimited connections to the Web site,
click Limited To, and then type the number of concurrent
connections that you want.

NOTE: Windows 2000 Professional is limited to 10
concurrent connections.

Thanks for all your help, and have a nice holiday!

-----Original Message-----
Hi,

I think you have some terminology wrong (which is fine, it's a bit confusing
at first)

Client = Someone accessing a resource
Authenticated Client = Someone who logged in to access a resource
Unauthenticated Client = Someone who is accessing a resource anonymously

Whether the students are logging on or accessing it anonymously, they are
still clients, and such you need a server to have more than 10 connections.
However, if they won't be logging on then you don't need CALs (Client Access
Licenses) since they are unauthenticated

--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.visualwin.com - A Windows Server 2003 visual, step-by-step
tutorial site
Only reply by newsgroup. Any emails I have not authorized are deleted
before I see them.

OK, I think I got it. One more question though. Since it
will be used as a WEB server and not a client server, can
I use the version with the least amount of clients? I.e.,
students will not log on to this server, only access the
WEB pages; surveys, forums, 'how to', pages etc. I guess
I'll be the only one logging on to load files and do
maintenance.

Thanks, I know some of these questions may seem rather
foolish, but I haven't clue and I've got to get started.


-----Original Message-----
Then you'll need a server edition. I, of course,
suggest Windows Server
2003 because it's a lot easier and more secure than
2000, but it's really
your call

--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.visualwin.com - A Windows Server 2003 visual,
step-by-step
tutorial site
Only reply by newsgroup. Any emails I have not
authorized are deleted
before I see them.


I want to run a web site off the server.
Currently I use a host to run my site.
I want to be able to have students access the page for
assignments, instruction, surves,forums, etc.
I beleive on average, I'll have 50 - 150 students
accessing the site at the same time.

-----Original Message-----
Anybody accessing your web site is a client...are you
only looking for a
local development machine?

--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.visualwin.com - A Windows Server 2003
visual,
step-by-step
tutorial site
Only reply by newsgroup. Any emails I have not
authorized are deleted
before I see them.


What is my best option if I don't need 'clients' and
just
want a 'web server'? Should I just buy the server
application with the least amount of client support
and
use it to run my web? Which version of W2K or W2003
is
best for me?

-----Original Message-----
What you say is true for Windows 2000 Pro (it can
only
have 10 connections).
Windows 2000 Server and Windows Server 2003 can
have "unlimited"
connections, as they are really server OSes

--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.visualwin.com - A Windows Server 2003
visual,
step-by-step
tutorial site
Only reply by newsgroup. Any emails I have not
authorized are deleted
before I see them.


in
message
I want to set up a web server to:
run a front page web site with W2K server
extentions
run .asp pages
run .php pages
run perle script
forums
surveys
flash
streaming video
etc.

What OS do I need or should I use?
Can I use W2K Pro SP1 with server extentions
installed?

I read some KB articles and they said that W2K
used
as
a
server can only handle 10 simultaneous
connections,
and
on average each user uses 3 connections... Does
that
mean
if I use W2K that only three people can access
the
stie
at the same time?

It will only be used for a web site.

Just starting out, so I don't know what else to
ask, or
what other information I need to give right
now...

Any suggestions / advice appreciated...


.



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[Leythos]

Anyway, last question for now, Jonathan, which version of
Windows 2003 do I need to set up the Web site with
anonymous authentication for at least 50 students st the
same time?

Any version of Windows 2000 or 2003 server will support an unlimited
number of ANONYMOUS connects (it really depends on how much hardware and
how much bandwidth you have available).

You can do authenticated connects if you use a program and not the
Windows OS to authenticate them, for free, as most applications do.

 

[James]

i'll probably get beaten up for posting this but you
could also look at some of the alternative's to windows
server and save yourself a fair bit of money.

i was running my personal website from my pc (that was
running W2k) but was frustrated by the simultaneous
connection issues so went the linux route.

something like Red Hat 9 you can setup a webserver
easily - i didn't have any knowledge of Linux before
doing it. i use a distribution called Clarkconnect as a
firewall on an old pc and have a webserver running from
this same pc - works well and best of all it was free.

 

[John N. Peele]

-----Original Message-----
I want to set up a web server to:
run a front page web site with W2K server extentions
run .asp pages
run .php pages
run perle script
forums
surveys
flash
streaming video
etc.

What OS do I need or should I use?
Can I use W2K Pro SP1 with server extentions installed?

I read some KB articles and they said that W2K used as a
server can only handle 10 simultaneous connections, and
on average each user uses 3 connections... Does that mean
if I use W2K that only three people can access the stie
at the same time?

It will only be used for a web site.

Just starting out, so I don't know what else to ask, or
what other information I need to give right now...

Any suggestions / advice appreciated...
.

=======Suggestion========
First thing to think about is that MS-Windows 2000 is a
DeskTop OS. You need to use MS-Windows2000 Server or MS-
Windows2003 Server. MS-Windows2003 Web Server Edition is
probably about perfect for you.
John
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[Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP]]

Except that 2003 Web isn't available thru retail channels and to get it you
need to buy it pre-installed on a Blade Web Server or Volume License (5
copies or more) ;-)

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