Use Upgrade or OEM or Full version?

T

TJ

We just bought a used computer from someone in Canada.
When we received it, the Windows XP Home Edition was the
French language version!! My French 101 isn't enough to
use the system like this, so I have to go get the English
version. Do I need to get the Full, OEM, or Upgrade
package in order to be compatible with XP having been
previously loaded on the drive(even though it was in a
different language)? And do I need to uninstall the
current XP or can I just stick the CD in and start
reloading? Thanks for your help.
 
Y

Yves Leclerc

Upgrade will not allow the "swap" of language.

OEM is not an option! OEM must be sold with new PC, and you already have a
French version.

Retail is the way to go! Buy booting the CD, you can select to do a fresh
re-install of XP Home.

Y.
 
N

Nico Tomacelli [MSFT]

Hi TJ,

It sounds as if you want to change to the US version of Windows XP. You
will need to either get the full version or the OEM version.

Here is an excellent post from Bruce Chambers in regards to what you get
with the OEM version:

There are some very important reasons that an OEM license costs so
much less than a retail license. OEM licenses are very limited:

1) OEM versions must be sold with a piece of hardware (normally
a motherboard or hard drive, if not an entire PC, although Microsoft
has greatly relaxed the hardware criteria for WinXP) and are
_permanently_ bound to the first PC on which they are installed. An
OEM license, once installed, is not legally transferable to another
computer under any circumstances. This is the main reason some people
avoid OEM versions; if the PC dies or is otherwise disposed of (even
stolen), you cannot re-use your OEM license on a new PC. The only
legitimate way to transfer the ownership of an OEM license is to
transfer ownership of the entire PC.

2) Microsoft provides no free support for OEM versions. If you
have any problems that require outside assistance, your only recourse
is to contact the manufacturer/builder of the PC or the vendor of the
OEM license. This would include such issues as lost a Product Key or
replacing damaged installation media. (Microsoft does make allowances
for those instances when you can prove that the OEM has gone out of
business.) This doesn't mean that you can't download patches and
service packs from Microsoft -- just no free telephone or email
support for problems with the OS.

3) An OEM CD cannot be used to perform an upgrade of an earlier
OS, as it was designed to be installed _only_ upon an empty hard
drive. It can still be used to perform a repair installation (a.k.a.
an in-place upgrade) of an existing WinXP installation.

4) If the OEM CD was designed by a specific manufacturer, such as
eMachines, Sony, Dell, Gateway, etc., it will most likely only install
on the same brand of PC, as an additional anti-piracy feature.
Further, such CDs are severely customized to contain only the minimum
of device drivers, and a lot of extra nonsense, that the manufacturer
feels necessary for the specific model of PC for which the CD was
designed. (To be honest, such CDs should _not_ be available on the
open market; but, if you're shopping someplace like eBay, swap meets,
or computer fairs, there's often no telling what you're buying until
it's too late.) The "generic" OEM CDs, such as are manufactured by
Microsoft and sold to small systems builders, don't have this
particular problem, though, and are pretty much the same as their
retail counterparts, apart from the licensing, support, and upgrading
restrictions.

Hope this information helps you determine which is better for you, Full or
OEM.

Thanks,
Nico Tomacelli
Microsoft Corp.
US - Windows Core:SOLID

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W

Willit

A OEM version is fine , It does not have to be SOLD with a new computer as
was posted. You can buy one from many authorized sellers with a piece of
hardware such as a screw in a ziplock bag or order a cheap cable . here is
XP home for $91.00


http://www.newegg.com/software/
 
G

Guest

This is crap , complete BS

"OEM is not an option! OEM must be sold with new PC, and
you already have a French version."
 
C

CWatters

Don't for get that if you wipe your HD and reinstall winXP you might also
need to reinstall some utilities provided by the maker of the laptop (things
like fancy battery monitors etc)
 
S

Spinner

Who said it was a laptop?


CWatters said:
Don't for get that if you wipe your HD and reinstall winXP you might also
need to reinstall some utilities provided by the maker of the laptop (things
like fancy battery monitors etc)
 
M

Michael Stevens

TJ said:
We just bought a used computer from someone in Canada.
When we received it, the Windows XP Home Edition was the
French language version!! My French 101 isn't enough to
use the system like this, so I have to go get the English
version. Do I need to get the Full, OEM, or Upgrade
package in order to be compatible with XP having been
previously loaded on the drive(even though it was in a
different language)? And do I need to uninstall the
current XP or can I just stick the CD in and start
reloading? Thanks for your help.

Unless the system is very new, I would not consider OEM. You will need
either the Full or OEM version to change the system from French to English,
you cannot upgrade to a different language.

You boot from the CD and do a clean install.
Click on or copy and paste the link below into your web browser address bar.
How to clean install XP.
http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html
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Donald McDaniel

Yves said:
Upgrade will not allow the "swap" of language.

OEM is not an option! OEM must be sold with new PC, and you already
have a French version.

Retail is the way to go! Buy booting the CD, you can select to do a
fresh re-install of XP Home.

Y.

Actually, a "FULL OEM" copy of XP can be, and in most cases is, sold with a
mouse or power cord. Since you will be installing XP "Clean" anyway, you
will save yourself a bundle of money (maybe even $150+ over the "Full
Retail") by purchasing a "FULL OEM" copy. But DO NOT purchase it from
ANYONE on EBay! You will be sorry if you do. Purchase it from a reputable
computer shop. However, you will get no support from Microsoft, or be able
to transfer your OEM license to a different machine.

By the way, a "Retail Upgrade" CD can be used to install XP "clean", IF you
have the CD of Windows 9x somewhere lying around. Between a "Retail
Upgrade" CD and a "Full Retail" CD, I advise the "Upgrade". You will save
$100+ and be able to do anything a "Full Retail" can do, and still be able
to transfer your license to a different computer if you have to.
 
D

Donald McDaniel

Michael said:
Unless the system is very new, I would not consider OEM. You will need
either the Full or OEM version to change the system from French to
English, you cannot upgrade to a different language.

You boot from the CD and do a clean install.
Click on or copy and paste the link below into your web browser
address bar. How to clean install XP.
http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html

Michael, don't forget that an "Upgrade" CD can do a "clean" install if he
has a previous version of Windows 9x.
 

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