Use on two home computers

[Safetystu]

I want to install Windows XP on two home computers (mine &
my wife's). It appears that activation will only allow its
use on one. Do I have to buy a second copy of XP to put it
on the second computer or is there a way to use one copy
and activate it on both?

 

[David]

Legally you need a second copy or product key.
But it can be done.

 

[Norm]

You really only need one copy but you do require 2 licenses. You cannot use
the same product key on 2 computers, it just will not work.

 

[Guest]

http://www.microscum.com/ heres how

 

[kurttrail]

"By the act of scrolling and/or replying this post on your computer, you
agree that I am your everlasting Lord & Saviour. Breach of this term
will result in you burning in hell for ever and ever! Amen!"

I want to install Windows XP on two home computers (mine &
my wife's). It appears that activation will only allow its
use on one. Do I have to buy a second copy of XP to put it
on the second computer or is there a way to use one copy
and activate it on both?

http://microscum.com/mmpafaq/

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"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

 

[kurttrail]

"By the act of scrolling and/or replying this post on your computer, you
agree that I am your everlasting Lord & Saviour. Breach of this term
will result in you burning in hell for ever and ever! Amen!"

Legally you need a second copy or product key.
But it can be done.

Actually there are no laws or court decisions that would make installing
software on more than one computer illegal. It is a breach of MS's
shrinkwrap license terms, but those terms have yet to be proven legally
enforceable on private individuals.

"Any individual may reproduce a copyrighted work for a "fair use"; the
copyright owner does not possess the exclusive right to such a use." -
U. S. Supreme Court.

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"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
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[kurttrail]

"By the act of scrolling and/or replying this post on your computer, you
agree that I am your everlasting Lord & Saviour. Breach of this term
will result in you burning in hell for ever and ever! Amen!"

You really only need one copy but you do require 2 licenses. You
cannot use the same product key on 2 computers, it just will not work.

Oh yes it will! If it has been more than 120 days since that copy was
last activated, the new activation should go smoothly over the internet,
and if it has been less than 120 days, then all the OP has to do is do a
phone activation and tell the PA phone rep that they did a major
upgrade.

I really enjoy reading all you morons PA FUD!

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"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
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[Alan]

Hello Kurt,

In the past, I have said to you that your whining about the same issues over
and over was becoming tiresome.

However, after reading the information that's contained within the
http://microscum.com/mmpafaq/
link, I compliment on your using your anger in a constructive and useful
manner.

And in case you are not sure, I am not being sarcastic.

Alan

 

[kurttrail]

Hello Kurt,

In the past, I have said to you that your whining about the same
issues over and over was becoming tiresome.

However, after reading the information that's contained within the
http://microscum.com/mmpafaq/
link, I compliment on your using your anger in a constructive and
useful manner.

And in case you are not sure, I am not being sarcastic.

Alan

Believe me, I get rather tired of it too! But I'm really not all that
angry, though I know I sound it. It's a personality flaw. It's more
that I feel very passionate about what I believe, but it comes out
sounding angry when I defend my beliefs, especially when confronted by
irrational arguments.

Most people that know me in the real world usually think I'm an a**hole,
but an a**hole they really like. It's something I'm working on, and I
am mellowing somewhat with age. There still is some hope that I'll just
be a "nice guy" before I hit my death bed, but I wouldn't put any money
on it! ;-)

Thanks for your kind words, Alan.

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"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

 

[david_kelsey]

Thanks for the website, Kurt - it seems to be very well argued, and I hope
you will be proved right in court sometime, unlikely as it appears at the
moment. Do you think the same reasoning applies in the UK? Here a
distinction is drawn between copyright and other types of protection, in
that an infringement of copyright occurs literally when someone copies a
piece of original work, usually a drawing or other artwork. It is a
defence, I believe, to argue that you have not copied anything, if indeed
you have not. When you buy a piece of software, you are not 'copying' it,
merely buying it, so it is difficult to see how copyright law can apply.
Surely every computer program written in the last ten years must copy code
previously written by someone else, even if not by intent. Pity the
originator of, say, the 'print' instruction can't sue Microsoft and every
other software house for infringement of copyright, since that would indeed
be copying.

David Kelsey

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

Installation on two computers would require that you own two
licenses.

As it has *always* been with *all* Microsoft operating systems,
it's necessary (to be in compliance with both the EULA and copyright
laws, if not technically) to purchase one WinXP license for each
computer on which it is installed. The only way in which WinXP
licensing differs from that of earlier versions of Windows is that
Microsoft has finally added a copy protection and anti-theft
mechanism, Product Activation, to prevent (or at least make more
difficult) multiple installations using a single license.

Microsoft does sell additional licenses (without the installation
media) for retail editions of WinXP at 15% off the MSRP, but you'd
actually save money by simply buying an additional copy of the OS from
almost any retail outlet.

Additional Licenses for Windows XP Home Edition
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/howtobuy/addlic.asp

Additional Licenses for Windows XP Professional
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/howtobuy/addlic.asp


Bruce Chambers

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[kurttrail]

Thanks for the website, Kurt - it seems to be very well argued, and I
hope you will be proved right in court sometime, unlikely as it
appears at the moment. Do you think the same reasoning applies in
the UK? Here a distinction is drawn between copyright and other
types of protection, in that an infringement of copyright occurs
literally when someone copies a piece of original work, usually a
drawing or other artwork. It is a defence, I believe, to argue that
you have not copied anything, if indeed you have not. When you buy a
piece of software, you are not 'copying' it, merely buying it, so it
is difficult to see how copyright law can apply. Surely every
computer program written in the last ten years must copy code
previously written by someone else, even if not by intent. Pity the
originator of, say, the 'print' instruction can't sue Microsoft and
every other software house for infringement of copyright, since that
would indeed be copying.

That's kinda happening to MS right now with browser plug-in patents,
here in the US. I almost feel sorry for them! ;-)

I don't know much about UK Copyright laws, but if you buy with cash, and
don't register your copy with MS, and "The only information required to
activate is an installation ID (and, for Office XP and Office XP family
products such as Visio 2002, the name of the country in which the
product is being installed),"* and "Activation is completely
anonymous,"** what can MS reasonably & logically prove? It's not like
you live in France, where you're guilty until proven innocent. ;-)

The real danger of the combination of web commerce & copy-protection is
the eroding of the right to anonymously purchase & privately use retail
products through technology controlled by the whim of corporatate
elites, not by the soverign laws, and civil authorities of our
respective nations, as is the tradition of both our countries. The
Foxes will rule the Hen House, instead of our duly-elected
representative governments.

* - http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/basics/activation/mpafaq.asp#details

** - http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/basics/activation/apolicy.asp

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Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
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http://microscum.com
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

 

[kurttrail]

"By the act of scrolling this post on your computer, and/or printing or
replying to this post, you agree that I am your everlasting Lord &
Saviour. Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell for
ever and ever! Amen!"

Bruce Chambers wrote:

As it has *always* been with *all* Microsoft operating systems,
it's necessary (to be in compliance with both the EULA and copyright
laws, if not technically) to purchase one WinXP license for each
computer on which it is installed.

Just ask Bruce what exact "copyright laws" he's talking about. He'll
either ignore you, or avoid stating a specific copyright law like it was
the plague!

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Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

 

[Alex Nichol]

I want to install Windows XP on two home computers (mine &
my wife's). It appears that activation will only allow its
use on one. Do I have to buy a second copy of XP to put it
on the second computer or is there a way to use one copy
and activate it on both?

Windows licensing has always required that you buy a separate copy for
each machine. That is precisely why the activation system was brought
in - to stop you from doing this

 

[Ken Blake]

In

I want to install Windows XP on two home computers (mine &
my wife's). It appears that activation will only allow its
use on one. Do I have to buy a second copy of XP to put it
on the second computer or is there a way to use one copy
and activate it on both?

Yes, you can buy extra licenses (see
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/howtobuy/addlic.asp). But
it's not generally a good deal. The problem is that Microsoft
sells additional licenses at only a small savings over the list
price. You're almost certainly better off just buying a complete
second copy from a discount source.