Upgrading to XP w/SP2 from 98SE, via boot of CD

[gcmom7]

I am trying to upgrade to XP w/SP2 from 98SE, via boot of CD. The XP Setup
doesn't recognize a previous Windows OS on my comp, so it asked me to insert
a CD of it. I did, that of my 98SE Install CD. It recognized it, then asked
me to say yes to the usual agreement stuff, then searched for and found
partitions.....of which there was only one in the list.---that of Partition
(C . It said to highlight where I wanted the XP Upgrade to install, I
highlighted the one and only Partition listed there, that of (C, and it
then warned me that if I install the XP there, I will lose the original OS
located there. That's what I want, right?? It's 98SE....so, I'm upgrading it.
Anyway, I didn't want to finish the install until I had a proper answer and
confirmation to this question of mine.
LOL~ Thanks for your help and prompt replies. Appreciate it.

 

[Nepatsfan]

I am trying to upgrade to XP w/SP2 from 98SE, via boot of CD. The XP Setup
doesn't recognize a previous Windows OS on my comp, so it asked me to insert
a CD of it. I did, that of my 98SE Install CD. It recognized it, then asked
me to say yes to the usual agreement stuff, then searched for and found
partitions.....of which there was only one in the list.---that of Partition
(C . It said to highlight where I wanted the XP Upgrade to install, I
highlighted the one and only Partition listed there, that of (C, and it
then warned me that if I install the XP there, I will lose the original OS
located there. That's what I want, right?? It's 98SE....so, I'm upgrading it.
Anyway, I didn't want to finish the install until I had a proper answer and
confirmation to this question of mine.
LOL~ Thanks for your help and prompt replies. Appreciate it.

If you're aim in upgrading is to preserve your installed applications and data,
you're going about this the wrong way. You should start the upgrade from within
Windows 98. With Windows 98 running, put the CD in the drive. If it doesn't
autoplay, go into My Computer, open your CD drive, and click on setup.exe. This
should launch the installation process. You want to select the Upgrade option
when asked.

By booting from the CD you'll end up with a fresh installation of XP, but you'll
then have to reinstall all your programs and restore your data. This isn't a bad
approach, but first make sure you've backed up all your important files.

Here are some web sites you may find helpful.

How to prepare to upgrade Windows 98 or Windows Millennium Edition to Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;316639

Upgrading to Windows XP
http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpupgrad.htm

Good luck

Nepatsfan

 

[gcmom7]

I am trying to upgrade to XP w/SP2 from 98SE, via boot of CD. The XP Setup
doesn't recognize a previous Windows OS on my comp, so it asked me to insert

[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]

confirmation to this question of mine.
LOL~ Thanks for your help and prompt replies. Appreciate it.

If you're aim in upgrading is to preserve your installed applications and data,
you're going about this the wrong way. You should start the upgrade from within
Windows 98. With Windows 98 running, put the CD in the drive. If it doesn't
autoplay, go into My Computer, open your CD drive, and click on setup.exe. This
should launch the installation process. You want to select the Upgrade option
when asked.

By booting from the CD you'll end up with a fresh installation of XP, but you'll
then have to reinstall all your programs and restore your data. This isn't a bad
approach, but first make sure you've backed up all your important files.

Here are some web sites you may find helpful.

How to prepare to upgrade Windows 98 or Windows Millennium Edition to Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;316639

Upgrading to Windows XP
http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpupgrad.htm

Good luck

Nepatsfan

Well, I was told that I wouldn't lose anything....that it would just upgrade.
(it's only an Upgrade XP CD with SP2.), even if I booted from the CD. The
reason I've had to boot from the CD is because when I do it thru 98SE on my
regular desktop, it won't go thru the Dynamic Update that XP Upgrade has on
it. It can't reach the website for some odd reason. (though I have cable
internet and it is on constantly.) Then, once I click 'install w/o the
Dynamic Update' (not exactly the same words there, but you get the gist), it
hangs up (no blue screen though) and I have to exit the program. I've tried
it, too, from the Check the Compatibility route, and the same thing happens.
It was suggested that I try it from the boot of the CD instead. I have a
Compaq Deskpro, Intel Pentium III, Desktop w/383 MB RAM, 32-bit file system. -
--- Microsoft site is of not much help, as it refuses to recognize 98SE
anymore and give any info on it....but, to install the XP Upgrade, I need Min.
Hard Drive space of 1.5 GB ( I have 11.8GB Used, with 6.76 GB available) , I
need Min. 64 MB Ram size (I have 383 MB Ram), it needs Min. Processor size of
Intel Pentium 233 MHz ( I have Intel Pentium III 995MHz---determined at
pcpitstop.com, which I use regularly---at least until they quit recognizing
98SE, too)

Any suggestions??

 

[gcmom7]

I am trying to upgrade to XP w/SP2 from 98SE, via boot of CD. The XP Setup
doesn't recognize a previous Windows OS on my comp, so it asked me to insert

[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]

confirmation to this question of mine.
LOL~ Thanks for your help and prompt replies. Appreciate it.

If you're aim in upgrading is to preserve your installed applications and data,
you're going about this the wrong way. You should start the upgrade from within
Windows 98. With Windows 98 running, put the CD in the drive. If it doesn't
autoplay, go into My Computer, open your CD drive, and click on setup.exe. This
should launch the installation process. You want to select the Upgrade option
when asked.

By booting from the CD you'll end up with a fresh installation of XP, but you'll
then have to reinstall all your programs and restore your data. This isn't a bad
approach, but first make sure you've backed up all your important files.

Here are some web sites you may find helpful.

How to prepare to upgrade Windows 98 or Windows Millennium Edition to Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;316639

Upgrading to Windows XP
http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpupgrad.htm

Good luck

Nepatsfan

Another problem with trying to get support at microsoft.com is that nearly
every link that is supposed to take you to info about upgrading to XP
eventually gets you to some page that tells you that Microsoft doesn't
support or recognize 98SE. Well, duhhhhh, ....that's why I'm trying to
upgrade to XP. (and apparently I'm running late in the stage to do so with
support from them)
I even downloaded the XP Upgrade Advisor by itself from their website. (they
actually did have this part).
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/upgrading/advisor.mspx However, once
I downloaded and started it, it wouldn't connect to the Microsoft Support
site,.......mainly, I do believe, because their site no longer recognizes
98SE. Arrggh~ And, I can't seem to find a place on their website to reach
someone to 'talk to' in an online window.(like I did when I first ordered the
system last year.) Note: I didn't put the system on the comp then,
because I had several high school students and a college student who had
reports and such on there, and I didn't want to take the chance on losing
them at the time. However, it has become pertinent to upgrading to XP now, at
least, so that a particular online class program can be reached via our comp.


Any more suggestions?? I may have to end up seeing if I can exchange the XP
Upgrade CD for a Vista, I guess. Hmmm...don't know if they'll let me do that,
though.

Bottom line is this: I need to know if I will actually be able to upgrade
my system to XP, from my 98SE, with my XP w/SP2 Upgrade(only, I think. That's
what it states on the CD, anyway.) CD, via a boot from the CD itself, will I
definitely lose all programs and current settings. ???

 

[Jim]

I am trying to upgrade to XP w/SP2 from 98SE, via boot of CD. The XP
Setup
doesn't recognize a previous Windows OS on my comp, so it asked me to
insert

[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]

confirmation to this question of mine.
LOL~ Thanks for your help and prompt replies. Appreciate it.

If you're aim in upgrading is to preserve your installed applications and
data,
you're going about this the wrong way. You should start the upgrade from
within
Windows 98. With Windows 98 running, put the CD in the drive. If it
doesn't
autoplay, go into My Computer, open your CD drive, and click on setup.exe.
This
should launch the installation process. You want to select the Upgrade
option
when asked.

By booting from the CD you'll end up with a fresh installation of XP, but
you'll
then have to reinstall all your programs and restore your data. This isn't
a bad
approach, but first make sure you've backed up all your important files.

Here are some web sites you may find helpful.

How to prepare to upgrade Windows 98 or Windows Millennium Edition to
Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;316639

Upgrading to Windows XP
http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpupgrad.htm

Good luck

Nepatsfan

Well, I was told that I wouldn't lose anything....that it would just
upgrade.
(it's only an Upgrade XP CD with SP2.), even if I booted from the CD. The
reason I've had to boot from the CD is because when I do it thru 98SE on
my
regular desktop, it won't go thru the Dynamic Update that XP Upgrade has
on
it. It can't reach the website for some odd reason. (though I have cable
internet and it is on constantly.) Then, once I click 'install w/o the
Dynamic Update' (not exactly the same words there, but you get the gist),
it
hangs up (no blue screen though) and I have to exit the program. I've
tried
it, too, from the Check the Compatibility route, and the same thing
happens.
It was suggested that I try it from the boot of the CD instead. I have a
Compaq Deskpro, Intel Pentium III, Desktop w/383 MB RAM, 32-bit file
system. -
--- Microsoft site is of not much help, as it refuses to recognize 98SE
anymore and give any info on it....but, to install the XP Upgrade, I need
Min.
Hard Drive space of 1.5 GB ( I have 11.8GB Used, with 6.76 GB available) ,
I
need Min. 64 MB Ram size (I have 383 MB Ram), it needs Min. Processor size
of
Intel Pentium 233 MHz ( I have Intel Pentium III 995MHz---determined at
pcpitstop.com, which I use regularly---at least until they quit
recognizing
98SE, too)

Any suggestions??

Backup everything that you cannot afford to lose. However, your system does
seem a bit
underpowered for running XP so be prepared for serious performance loses. I
didn't say
that it won't run; it just cannot run very fast (certainly not as fast as
98SE).
Jim

 

[Nepatsfan]

I am trying to upgrade to XP w/SP2 from 98SE, via boot of CD. The XP Setup
doesn't recognize a previous Windows OS on my comp, so it asked me to insert

[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]

confirmation to this question of mine.
LOL~ Thanks for your help and prompt replies. Appreciate it.

If you're aim in upgrading is to preserve your installed applications and
data,
you're going about this the wrong way. You should start the upgrade from
within
Windows 98. With Windows 98 running, put the CD in the drive. If it doesn't
autoplay, go into My Computer, open your CD drive, and click on setup.exe.
This
should launch the installation process. You want to select the Upgrade option
when asked.

By booting from the CD you'll end up with a fresh installation of XP, but
you'll
then have to reinstall all your programs and restore your data. This isn't a
bad
approach, but first make sure you've backed up all your important files.

Here are some web sites you may find helpful.

How to prepare to upgrade Windows 98 or Windows Millennium Edition to Windows
XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;316639

Upgrading to Windows XP
http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpupgrad.htm

Good luck

Nepatsfan

Another problem with trying to get support at microsoft.com is that nearly
every link that is supposed to take you to info about upgrading to XP
eventually gets you to some page that tells you that Microsoft doesn't
support or recognize 98SE. Well, duhhhhh, ....that's why I'm trying to
upgrade to XP. (and apparently I'm running late in the stage to do so with
support from them)
I even downloaded the XP Upgrade Advisor by itself from their website. (they
actually did have this part).
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/upgrading/advisor.mspx However, once
I downloaded and started it, it wouldn't connect to the Microsoft Support
site,.......mainly, I do believe, because their site no longer recognizes
98SE. Arrggh~ And, I can't seem to find a place on their website to reach
someone to 'talk to' in an online window.(like I did when I first ordered the
system last year.) Note: I didn't put the system on the comp then,
because I had several high school students and a college student who had
reports and such on there, and I didn't want to take the chance on losing
them at the time. However, it has become pertinent to upgrading to XP now, at
least, so that a particular online class program can be reached via our comp.


Any more suggestions?? I may have to end up seeing if I can exchange the XP
Upgrade CD for a Vista, I guess. Hmmm...don't know if they'll let me do that,
though.

Bottom line is this: I need to know if I will actually be able to upgrade
my system to XP, from my 98SE, with my XP w/SP2 Upgrade(only, I think. That's
what it states on the CD, anyway.) CD, via a boot from the CD itself, will I
definitely lose all programs and current settings. ???

Let's get the easy stuff out of the way first. You can forget about putting
Vista on your computer. As currently configured, your system doesn't meet the
minimum requirements to install any version of Vista.

Next, as Jim pointed out in his post, while your system meets the minimum
requirements to run XP, it's not going to set any records for speed. Sluggish
would be how I'd describe the performance you can expect. You may not want to
here this, but your system is at the borderline of where I'd consider installing
Windows XP. Even then, I'd do a clean install of XP. It's a lot of work since it
means reinstalling all your programs and restoring your backed up data, but it
will pay off in the long run. Also, it's my opinion that putting any money into
this system by upgrading components would be a waste. You could spend half of
what a new system would cost and achieve a minimal boost in performance.

Now, back to your current problem. Since your XP Upgrade CD is a retail product,
you should be able to get no-charge support from Microsoft for any installation
questions. I can't speak from first hand experience since I've never had the
need to contact them, but you might want to give it a shot. Take a look at this
web site for more info.

Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Help and Support
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&prid=3219&gprid=37013

That said, I tried to recreate the problems you ran into during your attempts at
upgrading Windows 98 to Windows XP. First, I installed Windows 98 along with a
few programs on my test system. Once I had Windows 98 configured properly, I put
an XP Home Edition upgrade CD in the drive and started the upgrade process. On
my first attempt, I ran into the same problem you did with Dynamic Update. It
reported back that it couldn't contact the Microsoft server. When I chose to
skip this step, the update continued. I shut down the update process and ran it
a second time. This time the Dynamic Update process went along as expected. You
might want to try running the update from within Windows 98 a number of times to
see if you can get past the Dynamic Update problem. If it keeps failing, try
shutting down your antivirus program and disconnecting from the internet.

Next, I restarted the computer and booted from the XP upgrade CD to confirm that
it would result in a clean installation of XP. I chose to use the existing
C:\Windows folder. As expected, the programs that were installed under Windows
98 were no longer available from the Start menu in XP. They were still on the
hard drive in the Program Files folder, but would not run.

The bottom line is that if you boot from the CD and install XP, you will not
have access to your old programs and data files such as your email messages. If
you can't get the upgrade to run from Windows 98, your only option may be to
back up your files and perform a clean installation of XP.

Good luck

Nepatsfan

 

[gcmom7 via WindowsKB.com]

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what it states on the CD, anyway.) CD, via a boot from the CD itself, will I
definitely lose all programs and current settings. ???

Let's get the easy stuff out of the way first. You can forget about putting
Vista on your computer. As currently configured, your system doesn't meet the
minimum requirements to install any version of Vista.

Next, as Jim pointed out in his post, while your system meets the minimum
requirements to run XP, it's not going to set any records for speed. Sluggish
would be how I'd describe the performance you can expect. You may not want to
here this, but your system is at the borderline of where I'd consider installing
Windows XP. Even then, I'd do a clean install of XP. It's a lot of work since it
means reinstalling all your programs and restoring your backed up data, but it
will pay off in the long run. Also, it's my opinion that putting any money into
this system by upgrading components would be a waste. You could spend half of
what a new system would cost and achieve a minimal boost in performance.

Now, back to your current problem. Since your XP Upgrade CD is a retail product,
you should be able to get no-charge support from Microsoft for any installation
questions. I can't speak from first hand experience since I've never had the
need to contact them, but you might want to give it a shot. Take a look at this
web site for more info.

Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Help and Support
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&prid=3219&gprid=37013

That said, I tried to recreate the problems you ran into during your attempts at
upgrading Windows 98 to Windows XP. First, I installed Windows 98 along with a
few programs on my test system. Once I had Windows 98 configured properly, I put
an XP Home Edition upgrade CD in the drive and started the upgrade process. On
my first attempt, I ran into the same problem you did with Dynamic Update. It
reported back that it couldn't contact the Microsoft server. When I chose to
skip this step, the update continued. I shut down the update process and ran it
a second time. This time the Dynamic Update process went along as expected. You
might want to try running the update from within Windows 98 a number of times to
see if you can get past the Dynamic Update problem. If it keeps failing, try
shutting down your antivirus program and disconnecting from the internet.

Next, I restarted the computer and booted from the XP upgrade CD to confirm that
it would result in a clean installation of XP. I chose to use the existing
C:\Windows folder. As expected, the programs that were installed under Windows
98 were no longer available from the Start menu in XP. They were still on the
hard drive in the Program Files folder, but would not run.

The bottom line is that if you boot from the CD and install XP, you will not
have access to your old programs and data files such as your email messages. If
you can't get the upgrade to run from Windows 98, your only option may be to
back up your files and perform a clean installation of XP.

Good luck

Nepatsfan

Thank you for your response. Before I received it last night, I read on
Microsoft's site that if it the install program stopped responding, to try to
wait 10-15 mins to see if it would start up again. I tried this---within the
regular set-up of my comp, via 98SE....not via a boot from the CD-----and it
did indeed start responding again after about just 5-7 mins of stopping
responding. Since the program wasn't reaching the Microsoft update site (as
you discovered, too), I had disconnected my cable internet. After the Dynamic
Update couldn't reach the website, I clicked the 'go on ahead and install'
section, too. (I had done that before, too.....but, after it stopped
responding, of course, I exited the program, rather than trying to wait 10-20
mins, as Microsoft site suggested.) However, when the install tonight got to
analyzing the computer, (it started out telling me that it would take 83 mins
approx for the install------or thereabouts), it stopped telling me that at
about 78 mins., though the program wasn't hanging up, at least not to the
point that it said that when I did Cntrl, Alt, Del to check. The small
multicolored squares at the bottom right of the program's screen, too, never
stopped moving across and across--showing the program was still responding.
The Intro to XP never stopped running over----the screens that tell you all
about what's going to be available both on and with XP. After about an hour,
though, being "stuck" at 78 mins and about 2/3 of the way thru analyzing the
comp, though it still showed the program as 'responding', I then gave up, by
Cntl, Alt, Del and ending the Update process. It asked if I wanted to do that,
I said yes, and then it told me it would spend time 'un-doing' what it'd done
already, it did, and then the program closed as asked. I restarted the comp,
then tried the entire thing again------this time hooking it up to the
internet again, though it can't reach that site anyway. I went thru just what
you mentioned, saying no to the Dynamic Update after the first try, and it
went on again as I just described-----hitting the same hang-up for about 5-6
mins, then responding again. Once again, it stopped at about 2/3 of the
analyzing of the comp, at about 78 mins left in the installation--it said,
and even though I left it on and watched it for about another hour, whilst
the program never stopped responding-----Intro screens still moved, the
bottom-right squares still moved across and across, and Cntl, Alt, Del never
indicated the program wasn't responding.......I then went to bed,leaving it
on all night, occasionally looking at it when I awoke a few times--to find it
doing the same ol' responding (supposedly), and as of this morning when I got
up, it still hadn't moved any further on its graph of analyzing the comp, nor
of the 78 mins time left.

I did read at Microsoft that I could put the FAT32 into that NTSB, but, of
course, that was suggested to be done after I found the XP program to be
working with the comp for a few days AFTER the installation of it, because
one can't change that back. I was hoping that perhaps that might help the
comp not run in the sluggish manner that both you and Jim suggest it to
probably doing once it's installed.
I just can't seem to get it installed. LOL~ I guess I'll try to get ahold
of Microsoft and see what they say about the installation of it right now. I
still don't understand why my comp specs seem to be enough for what is
suggested to have a min. of for XP, and why you and Jim don't seem to think
that will be good enough......though, don't get me wrong, ....I trust that....
..I just don't get it. ha~ I did find at Microsoft last night that I wouldn't
have enough on my comp, at this point, to do Vista.

BTW, would adding an external hard drive add enough comp specs to do Vista? I
know you both suggest a new comp, but those are considerably more in cost as
to what I could afford to do right now. ;-0
Thanks for your help here....

 

[gcmom7 via WindowsKB.com]

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Nepatsfan

Thank you for your response. Before I received it last night, I read on
Microsoft's site that if it the install program stopped responding, to try to
wait 10-15 mins to see if it would start up again. I tried this---within the
regular set-up of my comp, via 98SE....not via a boot from the CD-----and it
did indeed start responding again after about just 5-7 mins of stopping
responding. Since the program wasn't reaching the Microsoft update site (as
you discovered, too), I had disconnected my cable internet. After the Dynamic
Update couldn't reach the website, I clicked the 'go on ahead and install'
section, too. (I had done that before, too.....but, after it stopped
responding, of course, I exited the program, rather than trying to wait 10-20
mins, as Microsoft site suggested.) However, when the install tonight got to
analyzing the computer, (it started out telling me that it would take 83 mins
approx for the install------or thereabouts), it stopped telling me that at
about 78 mins., though the program wasn't hanging up, at least not to the
point that it said that when I did Cntrl, Alt, Del to check. The small
multicolored squares at the bottom right of the program's screen, too, never
stopped moving across and across--showing the program was still responding.
The Intro to XP never stopped running over----the screens that tell you all
about what's going to be available both on and with XP. After about an hour,
though, being "stuck" at 78 mins and about 2/3 of the way thru analyzing the
comp, though it still showed the program as 'responding', I then gave up, by
Cntl, Alt, Del and ending the Update process. It asked if I wanted to do that,
I said yes, and then it told me it would spend time 'un-doing' what it'd done
already, it did, and then the program closed as asked. I restarted the comp,
then tried the entire thing again------this time hooking it up to the
internet again, though it can't reach that site anyway. I went thru just what
you mentioned, saying no to the Dynamic Update after the first try, and it
went on again as I just described-----hitting the same hang-up for about 5-6
mins, then responding again. Once again, it stopped at about 2/3 of the
analyzing of the comp, at about 78 mins left in the installation--it said,
and even though I left it on and watched it for about another hour, whilst
the program never stopped responding-----Intro screens still moved, the
bottom-right squares still moved across and across, and Cntl, Alt, Del never
indicated the program wasn't responding.......I then went to bed,leaving it
on all night, occasionally looking at it when I awoke a few times--to find it
doing the same ol' responding (supposedly), and as of this morning when I got
up, it still hadn't moved any further on its graph of analyzing the comp, nor
of the 78 mins time left.

I did read at Microsoft that I could put the FAT32 into that NTSB, but, of
course, that was suggested to be done after I found the XP program to be
working with the comp for a few days AFTER the installation of it, because
one can't change that back. I was hoping that perhaps that might help the
comp not run in the sluggish manner that both you and Jim suggest it to
probably doing once it's installed.
I just can't seem to get it installed. LOL~ I guess I'll try to get ahold
of Microsoft and see what they say about the installation of it right now. I
still don't understand why my comp specs seem to be enough for what is
suggested to have a min. of for XP, and why you and Jim don't seem to think
that will be good enough......though, don't get me wrong, ....I trust that....
.I just don't get it. ha~ I did find at Microsoft last night that I wouldn't
have enough on my comp, at this point, to do Vista.

BTW, would adding an external hard drive add enough comp specs to do Vista? I
know you both suggest a new comp, but those are considerably more in cost as
to what I could afford to do right now. ;-0
Thanks for your help here....

I've been reading online again----please help me to understand this possible
solution. If I were to purchase an External Hard Drive, connect it to my comp,
then do the following with my students' 'papers', projects, pic files, my
document file, and other stuff of mine, would that work to save it all to put
on the comp again, once I did a Clean Install of the Windows XP SP2 that I
have? Also, would I have to remove the Hard Drive from my comp to do the
Clean Install, then connect it again after that? Or would it matter? ***(BTW,
I have most of the programs that I need on original CD's, and the others can
be downloaded again.---I have the codes to do so still, for the ones I've
purchased. Some were free.)****

Making backup copies manually
Regardless of what version of Windows you use, you can manually make a backup
copy of any file or folder by following these steps:

1.
Right-click the file or folder that you want to back up, and then click Copy
from the menu.

2.
Now, in My Computer, you can right-click the disk or external hard drive
where you want to store the backup copy, and then click Paste from the menu.

 

[Nepatsfan]

I am trying to upgrade to XP w/SP2 from 98SE, via boot of CD. The XP
Setup
doesn't recognize a previous Windows OS on my comp, so it asked me to
insert

[quoted text clipped - 51 lines]

Nepatsfan

Thank you for your response. Before I received it last night, I read on
Microsoft's site that if it the install program stopped responding, to try to
wait 10-15 mins to see if it would start up again. I tried this---within the
regular set-up of my comp, via 98SE....not via a boot from the CD-----and it
did indeed start responding again after about just 5-7 mins of stopping
responding. Since the program wasn't reaching the Microsoft update site (as
you discovered, too), I had disconnected my cable internet. After the Dynamic
Update couldn't reach the website, I clicked the 'go on ahead and install'
section, too. (I had done that before, too.....but, after it stopped
responding, of course, I exited the program, rather than trying to wait 10-20
mins, as Microsoft site suggested.) However, when the install tonight got to
analyzing the computer, (it started out telling me that it would take 83 mins
approx for the install------or thereabouts), it stopped telling me that at
about 78 mins., though the program wasn't hanging up, at least not to the
point that it said that when I did Cntrl, Alt, Del to check. The small
multicolored squares at the bottom right of the program's screen, too, never
stopped moving across and across--showing the program was still responding.
The Intro to XP never stopped running over----the screens that tell you all
about what's going to be available both on and with XP. After about an hour,
though, being "stuck" at 78 mins and about 2/3 of the way thru analyzing the
comp, though it still showed the program as 'responding', I then gave up, by
Cntl, Alt, Del and ending the Update process. It asked if I wanted to do that,
I said yes, and then it told me it would spend time 'un-doing' what it'd done
already, it did, and then the program closed as asked. I restarted the comp,
then tried the entire thing again------this time hooking it up to the
internet again, though it can't reach that site anyway. I went thru just what
you mentioned, saying no to the Dynamic Update after the first try, and it
went on again as I just described-----hitting the same hang-up for about 5-6
mins, then responding again. Once again, it stopped at about 2/3 of the
analyzing of the comp, at about 78 mins left in the installation--it said,
and even though I left it on and watched it for about another hour, whilst
the program never stopped responding-----Intro screens still moved, the
bottom-right squares still moved across and across, and Cntl, Alt, Del never
indicated the program wasn't responding.......I then went to bed,leaving it
on all night, occasionally looking at it when I awoke a few times--to find it
doing the same ol' responding (supposedly), and as of this morning when I got
up, it still hadn't moved any further on its graph of analyzing the comp, nor
of the 78 mins time left.

I did read at Microsoft that I could put the FAT32 into that NTSB, but, of
course, that was suggested to be done after I found the XP program to be
working with the comp for a few days AFTER the installation of it, because
one can't change that back. I was hoping that perhaps that might help the
comp not run in the sluggish manner that both you and Jim suggest it to
probably doing once it's installed.
I just can't seem to get it installed. LOL~ I guess I'll try to get ahold
of Microsoft and see what they say about the installation of it right now. I
still don't understand why my comp specs seem to be enough for what is
suggested to have a min. of for XP, and why you and Jim don't seem to think
that will be good enough......though, don't get me wrong, ....I trust that....
.I just don't get it. ha~ I did find at Microsoft last night that I wouldn't
have enough on my comp, at this point, to do Vista.

BTW, would adding an external hard drive add enough comp specs to do Vista? I
know you both suggest a new comp, but those are considerably more in cost as
to what I could afford to do right now. ;-0
Thanks for your help here....

I've been reading online again----please help me to understand this possible
solution. If I were to purchase an External Hard Drive, connect it to my comp,
then do the following with my students' 'papers', projects, pic files, my
document file, and other stuff of mine, would that work to save it all to put
on the comp again, once I did a Clean Install of the Windows XP SP2 that I
have? Also, would I have to remove the Hard Drive from my comp to do the
Clean Install, then connect it again after that? Or would it matter? ***(BTW,
I have most of the programs that I need on original CD's, and the others can
be downloaded again.---I have the codes to do so still, for the ones I've
purchased. Some were free.)****

Making backup copies manually
Regardless of what version of Windows you use, you can manually make a backup
copy of any file or folder by following these steps:

1.
Right-click the file or folder that you want to back up, and then click Copy
from the menu.

2.
Now, in My Computer, you can right-click the disk or external hard drive
where you want to store the backup copy, and then click Paste from the menu.

OK, let's clear up some things from your earlier post. First off, Vista is not
an option as far as your current configuration goes. Adding an external drive
won't change that.

Next, the minimum requirements that Microsoft lists for Windows XP are just
that, minimums. Yes, your components exceed the minimums, but install an
antivirus program, open a web site, and launch your email program and your
computer could get bogged down. As I said before, your computer will run XP, but
it will struggle from time to time with various tasks. A program which requires
a lot of RAM will slow your system to a crawl. Also, while NTFS is a more
efficient file system than FAT32, it's not going to produce a noticeable
increase in the speed of your computer.

Moving on, I suspect the reason you saw the upgrade process stuck is that
Windows XP had a problem with one of your hardware devices. Keep in mind that
when installing or upgrading an operating system, the only items that should be
connected to the computer are the keyboard, mouse, and monitor. You should also
uninstall any antivirus or firewall programs that are running under Windows 98.
They, or equivalent XP versions, can be reinstalled once the upgrade is
complete.

If you've decided to bite the bullet and go with a clean installation of XP, you
not only have to back up your important files, you need to confirm that they can
be restored. While XP includes a feature on the installation CD that will help
you back up and restore your old files, I'm a firm believer in the approach
you've outlined. I prefer to copy the actual files so they exist in their native
format. While an external hard drive can be used for this purpose, I prefer to
burn the files to a CD or DVD. Whatever approach you take, make sure you can
open the files you've backed up. You don't want to complete the installation of
XP and find that the files you thought were backed up can't be opened. Also, if
you go with the external hard drive, disconnect it during the installation.

Good luck

Nepatsfan

 

[gcmom7 via WindowsKB.com]

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where you want to store the backup copy, and then click Paste from the menu.
[/b]

OK, let's clear up some things from your earlier post. First off, Vista is not
an option as far as your current configuration goes. Adding an external drive
won't change that.

Next, the minimum requirements that Microsoft lists for Windows XP are just
that, minimums. Yes, your components exceed the minimums, but install an
antivirus program, open a web site, and launch your email program and your
computer could get bogged down. As I said before, your computer will run XP, but
it will struggle from time to time with various tasks. A program which requires
a lot of RAM will slow your system to a crawl. Also, while NTFS is a more
efficient file system than FAT32, it's not going to produce a noticeable
increase in the speed of your computer.

Moving on, I suspect the reason you saw the upgrade process stuck is that
Windows XP had a problem with one of your hardware devices. Keep in mind that
when installing or upgrading an operating system, the only items that should be
connected to the computer are the keyboard, mouse, and monitor. You should also
uninstall any antivirus or firewall programs that are running under Windows 98.
They, or equivalent XP versions, can be reinstalled once the upgrade is
complete.

If you've decided to bite the bullet and go with a clean installation of XP, you
not only have to back up your important files, you need to confirm that they can
be restored. While XP includes a feature on the installation CD that will help
you back up and restore your old files, I'm a firm believer in the approach
you've outlined. I prefer to copy the actual files so they exist in their native
format. While an external hard drive can be used for this purpose, I prefer to
burn the files to a CD or DVD. Whatever approach you take, make sure you can
open the files you've backed up. You don't want to complete the installation of
XP and find that the files you thought were backed up can't be opened. Also, if
you go with the external hard drive, disconnect it during the installation.

Good luck

Nepatsfan

To let you know more of what I use on my comp, and do, I figured I'd give you
this info.... I don't use Outlook on my comp, so it doesn't take up any room
on my comp. I took that off, cuz I prefer Hotmail and Yahoo online. My
antivirus also doesn't have all that extra stuff that ones like Norton and
McAfee have----it's just the free AVG that I've used for 7 years now. So, it
doesn't take up as much room as Norton or McAfee, or other similar programs.

As for when I tried upgrading last night again and it not really completing
(it basically 'hung up', though nothing seemed to indicate that), I did turn
off everything, including the antivirus program, while upgrading. All that I
had running, other than the Upgrade program, was Systray and Explorer. As for
firewalls, I didn't have the AVG running, so that one was off. I do have a
router between the comp and the cable internet connection; it was hooked up
during the installation. I also had the printer still hooked up, though it
was turned off. (though that probably didn't make any difference, I'm
guessing...lol) I was thinking of running the Upgrade program again later
today with the printer and router, as well as the cable internet connection,
un-connected.

I was happy to see that you were a firm believer in the hard drive plan,
rather than the XP Upgrade's backup plan. Ha~ I get some 'points'. ~grin~
I'm not certain if I can download documents to cd's with my comp. I'll have
to try it out first, before picking up an external hard drive. (I'm certain I
can't do DVD's, as I don't have that type of program here.) We usually just
use the floppy disk, or have even just emailed our documents (for the
students' school) to a comp email at school, where they print them off there.
Plus, it will depend, too, on how many MB's of info we have to save.

I'll let you know here how things proceed....thanks again for your help and
time. I appreciate it much.

 

[Nepatsfan]

I am trying to upgrade to XP w/SP2 from 98SE, via boot of CD. The XP
Setup

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where you want to store the backup copy, and then click Paste from the menu.
[/b]

OK, let's clear up some things from your earlier post. First off, Vista is not
an option as far as your current configuration goes. Adding an external drive
won't change that.

Next, the minimum requirements that Microsoft lists for Windows XP are just
that, minimums. Yes, your components exceed the minimums, but install an
antivirus program, open a web site, and launch your email program and your
computer could get bogged down. As I said before, your computer will run XP,
but
it will struggle from time to time with various tasks. A program which
requires
a lot of RAM will slow your system to a crawl. Also, while NTFS is a more
efficient file system than FAT32, it's not going to produce a noticeable
increase in the speed of your computer.

Moving on, I suspect the reason you saw the upgrade process stuck is that
Windows XP had a problem with one of your hardware devices. Keep in mind that
when installing or upgrading an operating system, the only items that should
be
connected to the computer are the keyboard, mouse, and monitor. You should
also
uninstall any antivirus or firewall programs that are running under Windows
98.
They, or equivalent XP versions, can be reinstalled once the upgrade is
complete.

If you've decided to bite the bullet and go with a clean installation of XP,
you
not only have to back up your important files, you need to confirm that they
can
be restored. While XP includes a feature on the installation CD that will help
you back up and restore your old files, I'm a firm believer in the approach
you've outlined. I prefer to copy the actual files so they exist in their
native
format. While an external hard drive can be used for this purpose, I prefer to
burn the files to a CD or DVD. Whatever approach you take, make sure you can
open the files you've backed up. You don't want to complete the installation
of
XP and find that the files you thought were backed up can't be opened. Also,
if
you go with the external hard drive, disconnect it during the installation.

Good luck

Nepatsfan

To let you know more of what I use on my comp, and do, I figured I'd give you
this info.... I don't use Outlook on my comp, so it doesn't take up any room
on my comp. I took that off, cuz I prefer Hotmail and Yahoo online. My
antivirus also doesn't have all that extra stuff that ones like Norton and
McAfee have----it's just the free AVG that I've used for 7 years now. So, it
doesn't take up as much room as Norton or McAfee, or other similar programs.

As for when I tried upgrading last night again and it not really completing
(it basically 'hung up', though nothing seemed to indicate that), I did turn
off everything, including the antivirus program, while upgrading. All that I
had running, other than the Upgrade program, was Systray and Explorer. As for
firewalls, I didn't have the AVG running, so that one was off. I do have a
router between the comp and the cable internet connection; it was hooked up
during the installation. I also had the printer still hooked up, though it
was turned off. (though that probably didn't make any difference, I'm
guessing...lol) I was thinking of running the Upgrade program again later
today with the printer and router, as well as the cable internet connection,
un-connected.

I was happy to see that you were a firm believer in the hard drive plan,
rather than the XP Upgrade's backup plan. Ha~ I get some 'points'. ~grin~
I'm not certain if I can download documents to cd's with my comp. I'll have
to try it out first, before picking up an external hard drive. (I'm certain I
can't do DVD's, as I don't have that type of program here.) We usually just
use the floppy disk, or have even just emailed our documents (for the
students' school) to a comp email at school, where they print them off there.
Plus, it will depend, too, on how many MB's of info we have to save.

I'll let you know here how things proceed....thanks again for your help and
time. I appreciate it much.

You're welcome. Don't hesitate to post back if you have any other questions.

Good luck

Nepatsfan

 

[mook]

Personal experience: XP SP2 (Home) runs fine on a P3 800MHz-1GHz, 512M, 80M
HD in 2 40MB partitions. Some things (Movie Maker, heavy graphics/games) of
course don't work well or at all, but overall it's a useful machine for
ordinary purposes (OpenOffice, Canvas, basic web stuff). I wouldn't want it
for an -only- computer but it's fine for a secondary. It's an upgrade from
Win98SE and 1) starts up more quickly in XP than it did in 98, and 2)
actually seems to run more quickly for most things. So as long as you don't
have your expectations too high your P3 995 should work fine. The 233 would
certainly be underpowered though, and 64MB RAM is simply not enough. You DO
want to push the RAM up to at least 512MB and the HD to at least 60 MB
(80-120 would be better); can you cannibalize a couple of old boxes to
assemble one good one?

Recommend, too, that you back up all your data and do the clean-install
upgrade which is what you had started to do at the beginning. Let Setup wipe
the disk and, if it's bigger than 60-80 MB format with NTFS rather than
FAT32. Then reinstall everything. My experience is that the in-place 98SE
upgrade works but no matter how hard you try with disk cleanup and defrag
beforehand in 98SE things end up scattered all over the disk in ways that
XP's defrag just can't reas4semble, and mysterious problems do arise. So
schedule a weekend to hack on the box, make sure all the hardware is in good
shape, and go for it from scratch.

-Just a Plain Olde User...

I am trying to upgrade to XP w/SP2 from 98SE, via boot of CD. The XP Setup
doesn't recognize a previous Windows OS on my comp, so it asked me to insert

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confirmation to this question of mine.
LOL~ Thanks for your help and prompt replies. Appreciate it.

If you're aim in upgrading is to preserve your installed applications and data,
you're going about this the wrong way. You should start the upgrade from within
Windows 98. With Windows 98 running, put the CD in the drive. If it doesn't
autoplay, go into My Computer, open your CD drive, and click on setup.exe. This
should launch the installation process. You want to select the Upgrade option
when asked.

By booting from the CD you'll end up with a fresh installation of XP, but you'll
then have to reinstall all your programs and restore your data. This isn't a bad
approach, but first make sure you've backed up all your important files.

Here are some web sites you may find helpful.

How to prepare to upgrade Windows 98 or Windows Millennium Edition to Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;316639

Upgrading to Windows XP
http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpupgrad.htm

Good luck

Nepatsfan

Well, I was told that I wouldn't lose anything....that it would just upgrade.
(it's only an Upgrade XP CD with SP2.), even if I booted from the CD. The
reason I've had to boot from the CD is because when I do it thru 98SE on my
regular desktop, it won't go thru the Dynamic Update that XP Upgrade has on
it. It can't reach the website for some odd reason. (though I have cable
internet and it is on constantly.) Then, once I click 'install w/o the
Dynamic Update' (not exactly the same words there, but you get the gist), it
hangs up (no blue screen though) and I have to exit the program. I've tried
it, too, from the Check the Compatibility route, and the same thing happens.
It was suggested that I try it from the boot of the CD instead. I have a
Compaq Deskpro, Intel Pentium III, Desktop w/383 MB RAM, 32-bit file system. -
--- Microsoft site is of not much help, as it refuses to recognize 98SE
anymore and give any info on it....but, to install the XP Upgrade, I need Min.
Hard Drive space of 1.5 GB ( I have 11.8GB Used, with 6.76 GB available) , I
need Min. 64 MB Ram size (I have 383 MB Ram), it needs Min. Processor size of
Intel Pentium 233 MHz ( I have Intel Pentium III 995MHz---determined at
pcpitstop.com, which I use regularly---at least until they quit recognizing
98SE, too)

Any suggestions??