Unable to Share on Vista.

G

Guest

I just installed Vista Home Basic, with a clean install. Everything works,
and it is up and running.

I have found that the Networking options are hard to figure out to say the
least.

First let me say I have set my network up completely. I am able to access
all the files, drives and printers that are on my other machines. (1 is XP
Home SP2, 2 are MAC OSX) On the Vista machine I am able to access everything
on the network. Edit, copy, delete anything I want on the other machines.

Now on the Vista machine I am not able to share anything.

In the NETWORK AND SHARING CENTER I have turned on Network discovery, File
Sharing, Printer Sharing, Media Sharing, I have turned off Password protected
sharing.

When I right click on a drive and go to SHARING, the drives properties open
to the sharing tab. The box to share the drive is grayed out, and I am not
able to turn sharing for that drive on. If I go into the Advanced Sharing,
and check the Share this folder box at the top, the Add and Remove buttons
are grayed out.

I have not been able to share anything on the Vista machine. I can access
the network from the Vista machine, and see and do what I want. From the XP
machine I can see the Vista machine, but nothing is shared.

I spent a few hours with Tech support in a chat, and then a few more hours
on a phone call. After that they gave me a case # and told me a tech would
call me after they researched the problem.

I received a call from Microsoft today, and they said that this was not an
option in VISTA HOME BASIC, that networking is restricted in this version.

Is this correct? If not, how do I go about sharing a file/drive on my Vista
machine?
 
J

Jon

Jay In Denver said:
I just installed Vista Home Basic, with a clean install. Everything works,
and it is up and running.

I have found that the Networking options are hard to figure out to say the
least.

First let me say I have set my network up completely. I am able to access
all the files, drives and printers that are on my other machines. (1 is XP
Home SP2, 2 are MAC OSX) On the Vista machine I am able to access
everything
on the network. Edit, copy, delete anything I want on the other machines.

Now on the Vista machine I am not able to share anything.

In the NETWORK AND SHARING CENTER I have turned on Network discovery, File
Sharing, Printer Sharing, Media Sharing, I have turned off Password
protected
sharing.

When I right click on a drive and go to SHARING, the drives properties
open
to the sharing tab. The box to share the drive is grayed out, and I am not
able to turn sharing for that drive on. If I go into the Advanced Sharing,
and check the Share this folder box at the top, the Add and Remove buttons
are grayed out.

I have not been able to share anything on the Vista machine. I can access
the network from the Vista machine, and see and do what I want. From the
XP
machine I can see the Vista machine, but nothing is shared.

I spent a few hours with Tech support in a chat, and then a few more hours
on a phone call. After that they gave me a case # and told me a tech would
call me after they researched the problem.

I received a call from Microsoft today, and they said that this was not an
option in VISTA HOME BASIC, that networking is restricted in this version.

Is this correct? If not, how do I go about sharing a file/drive on my
Vista
machine?


You're in the right place once you've clicked on Advanced Sharing.

After clicking the 'Share this folder' you click on Permissions and add the
user (who needs to have an account both on your Vista machine and your XP
machine) that you want to add, eg with full control permissions.
[/QUOTE]
 
G

Guest

I have set up a user as EVERYONE with full control, Change and Read checked
under Allow.

After I click add, and OK, I am taken back to the Advanced Sharing screen
and the Add and Remove boxes are stilled grayed out.

After I have added a user to permissions, I still can not activate Sharing
You're in the right place once you've clicked on Advanced Sharing.

After clicking the 'Share this folder' you click on Permissions and add the
user (who needs to have an account both on your Vista machine and your XP
machine) that you want to add, eg with full control permissions.
[/QUOTE]
 
J

Jon

I think if you have 'Password protected sharing' turned off then access is
via the Guest account, so try enabling that account via User Accounts.

If that doesn't work, then try turning on 'Password protected sharing', with
the permissions you've setup. Works here anyhow with 'Password protected
sharing' turned on.

--
Jon


Jay In Denver said:
I have set up a user as EVERYONE with full control, Change and Read checked
under Allow.

After I click add, and OK, I am taken back to the Advanced Sharing screen
and the Add and Remove boxes are stilled grayed out.

After I have added a user to permissions, I still can not activate Sharing
[/QUOTE]
 
G

Guest

I have not been able to turn on any sharing options under vista, not even the
shared/public folder.
 
G

Guest

I have tried turning the Password protected sharing on, and trying again.
When that option is on or off in the Network and Sharing Center, the boxes
for Sharing are still grayed out.
 
J

Jon

Might be the fact that you are trying to share the root of a drive. I'd
practice first with say a folder on your desktop and see if you can get that
working as a first step.


This is would be the rough sequence I would follow to share a folder on my
Vista desktop, with 'Password protected sharing' / 'File sharing' / 'Network
discovery' /.. on...

Assuming an account say 'Jon' (with an account on both computers, same
password etc).....

Right-click folder to be shared on desktop > Properties > Sharing > Advanced
Sharing
Check 'Share this folder'

Click Permissions > Add.. > Advanced > Find Now... > Click on the username,
say 'Jon'> ok > ok
Click on that user's name in the 'Share permissions' box at the top, and in
the lower box check 'Full control'
[I'd leave 'Everyone' at read only]

Ok > ok

Following that the icon on the desktop should change to reflect the sharing
feature.



If not, then these are some other considerations.....

...Same workgroup name on the Vista computer and the XP computer?
...Try disconnecting from the Internet, if connected and trying the same
sequence
...fsmgmt.msc is a useful tool. Start > Run > fsmgmt.msc
...Check ALL firewall settings eg check the exceptions tab in Windows
Firewall. 'File and printer sharing' checked etc
...The 'net' command may be useful too. Start > Run > cmd eg 'net share' on
both computers.
...Check the properties of each relevant connection in 'Network Connections'
 
G

Guest

Thank you for the suggestions, they are the same that level 1 tech support
gave me.

Even if I select just a folder, I still can not change the settings to
Share. I have no options available to share a drive, folder, file within
Vista. When I go into Sharing, Advanced Sharing and click the box Share this
folder, I can not ADD it, the ADD button is grayed out. So when I click OK,
it never shares it because I can't click ADD.

The WorkGroup is correct. I am able to share all the drives and files from
Vista that are hosted on my network, so the Workgroup and network is set up
correctly. I have to be able to add something in Vista to share for the other
computers to see it, and my Share options are grayed out.

I am using the firewall that came with Vista, and the file sharing is
checked to allow an exception.



Jon said:
Might be the fact that you are trying to share the root of a drive. I'd
practice first with say a folder on your desktop and see if you can get that
working as a first step.


This is would be the rough sequence I would follow to share a folder on my
Vista desktop, with 'Password protected sharing' / 'File sharing' / 'Network
discovery' /.. on...

Assuming an account say 'Jon' (with an account on both computers, same
password etc).....

Right-click folder to be shared on desktop > Properties > Sharing > Advanced
Sharing
Check 'Share this folder'

Click Permissions > Add.. > Advanced > Find Now... > Click on the username,
say 'Jon'> ok > ok
Click on that user's name in the 'Share permissions' box at the top, and in
the lower box check 'Full control'
[I'd leave 'Everyone' at read only]

Ok > ok

Following that the icon on the desktop should change to reflect the sharing
feature.



If not, then these are some other considerations.....

...Same workgroup name on the Vista computer and the XP computer?
...Try disconnecting from the Internet, if connected and trying the same
sequence
...fsmgmt.msc is a useful tool. Start > Run > fsmgmt.msc
...Check ALL firewall settings eg check the exceptions tab in Windows
Firewall. 'File and printer sharing' checked etc
...The 'net' command may be useful too. Start > Run > cmd eg 'net share' on
both computers.
...Check the properties of each relevant connection in 'Network Connections'

--
Jon


Jay In Denver said:
I have tried turning the Password protected sharing on, and trying again.
When that option is on or off in the Network and Sharing Center, the boxes
for Sharing are still grayed out.
 
G

Guest

Thank you for the suggestions, they are the same that level 1 tech support
gave me.

Even if I select just a folder, I still can not change the settings to
Share. I have no options available to share a drive, folder, file within
Vista. When I go into Sharing, Advanced Sharing and click the box Share this
folder, I can not ADD it, the ADD button is grayed out. So when I click OK,
it never shares it because I can't click ADD.

The WorkGroup is correct. I am able to share all the drives and files from
Vista that are hosted on my network, so the Workgroup and network is set up
correctly.

I have to change a setting within VISTA to allow sharing. A file, folder, or
drive. If I can't do this, no other machine on my network will see it. Right
now on my XP machine, or MAC, I can see the Vista machine, there is just
NOTHING shared. All options to share anything are grayed out.


I am using the firewall that came with Vista, and the file sharing is
checked to allow an exception.




Jon said:
Might be the fact that you are trying to share the root of a drive. I'd
practice first with say a folder on your desktop and see if you can get that
working as a first step.


This is would be the rough sequence I would follow to share a folder on my
Vista desktop, with 'Password protected sharing' / 'File sharing' / 'Network
discovery' /.. on...

Assuming an account say 'Jon' (with an account on both computers, same
password etc).....

Right-click folder to be shared on desktop > Properties > Sharing > Advanced
Sharing
Check 'Share this folder'

Click Permissions > Add.. > Advanced > Find Now... > Click on the username,
say 'Jon'> ok > ok
Click on that user's name in the 'Share permissions' box at the top, and in
the lower box check 'Full control'
[I'd leave 'Everyone' at read only]

Ok > ok

Following that the icon on the desktop should change to reflect the sharing
feature.



If not, then these are some other considerations.....

...Same workgroup name on the Vista computer and the XP computer?
...Try disconnecting from the Internet, if connected and trying the same
sequence
...fsmgmt.msc is a useful tool. Start > Run > fsmgmt.msc
...Check ALL firewall settings eg check the exceptions tab in Windows
Firewall. 'File and printer sharing' checked etc
...The 'net' command may be useful too. Start > Run > cmd eg 'net share' on
both computers.
...Check the properties of each relevant connection in 'Network Connections'

--
Jon


Jay In Denver said:
I have tried turning the Password protected sharing on, and trying again.
When that option is on or off in the Network and Sharing Center, the boxes
for Sharing are still grayed out.
 
G

Guest

You can set up networking in Basic. Here's a good place to research this:
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/b27b71d8-4098-47c8-ad95-05f51e49cd121033.mspx Or go to the online help site and look for Networking.
I agree that this is hard to figure out. I got my network working, but it is
not like it was set up before. All your old shares on the other machines have
to be deleted and set up again. And the shares on the Vista computer all wind
up in the Public folder. You have to be signed in as administrator to set up
networking. Do not try sharing any system folders, root drives, Documents &
Settings, etc.
 
J

Jon

I've had a few too many glasses of wine to write anything remotely
worthwhile tonight, but I'll perhaps review your post again tomorrow, time
permitting.

One parting thought - it may be the 'case of the 2 adds'. The sequence of
instructions I gave in my last post doesn't involve the 'add' button you are
referring to, but the one on the following screen, when you press
'Permissions'.

--
Jon


Jay In Denver said:
Thank you for the suggestions, they are the same that level 1 tech support
gave me.

Even if I select just a folder, I still can not change the settings to
Share. I have no options available to share a drive, folder, file within
Vista. When I go into Sharing, Advanced Sharing and click the box Share
this
folder, I can not ADD it, the ADD button is grayed out. So when I click
OK,
it never shares it because I can't click ADD.

The WorkGroup is correct. I am able to share all the drives and files from
Vista that are hosted on my network, so the Workgroup and network is set
up
correctly.

I have to change a setting within VISTA to allow sharing. A file, folder,
or
drive. If I can't do this, no other machine on my network will see it.
Right
now on my XP machine, or MAC, I can see the Vista machine, there is just
NOTHING shared. All options to share anything are grayed out.


I am using the firewall that came with Vista, and the file sharing is
checked to allow an exception.




Jon said:
Might be the fact that you are trying to share the root of a drive. I'd
practice first with say a folder on your desktop and see if you can get
that
working as a first step.


This is would be the rough sequence I would follow to share a folder on
my
Vista desktop, with 'Password protected sharing' / 'File sharing' /
'Network
discovery' /.. on...

Assuming an account say 'Jon' (with an account on both computers, same
password etc).....

Right-click folder to be shared on desktop > Properties > Sharing >
Advanced
Sharing
Check 'Share this folder'

Click Permissions > Add.. > Advanced > Find Now... > Click on the
username,
say 'Jon'> ok > ok
Click on that user's name in the 'Share permissions' box at the top, and
in
the lower box check 'Full control'
[I'd leave 'Everyone' at read only]

Ok > ok

Following that the icon on the desktop should change to reflect the
sharing
feature.



If not, then these are some other considerations.....

...Same workgroup name on the Vista computer and the XP computer?
...Try disconnecting from the Internet, if connected and trying the same
sequence
...fsmgmt.msc is a useful tool. Start > Run > fsmgmt.msc
...Check ALL firewall settings eg check the exceptions tab in Windows
Firewall. 'File and printer sharing' checked etc
...The 'net' command may be useful too. Start > Run > cmd eg 'net share'
on
both computers.
...Check the properties of each relevant connection in 'Network
Connections'

--
Jon


Jay In Denver said:
I have tried turning the Password protected sharing on, and trying
again.
When that option is on or off in the Network and Sharing Center, the
boxes
for Sharing are still grayed out.

:

I think if you have 'Password protected sharing' turned off then
access
is
via the Guest account, so try enabling that account via User Accounts.

If that doesn't work, then try turning on 'Password protected
sharing',
with
the permissions you've setup. Works here anyhow with 'Password
protected
sharing' turned on.

--
Jon


message
I have set up a user as EVERYONE with full control, Change and Read
checked
under Allow.

After I click add, and OK, I am taken back to the Advanced Sharing
screen
and the Add and Remove boxes are stilled grayed out.

After I have added a user to permissions, I still can not activate
Sharing
on Vista.


:


message
I just installed Vista Home Basic, with a clean install.
Everything
works,
and it is up and running.

I have found that the Networking options are hard to figure out
to
say
the
least.

First let me say I have set my network up completely. I am able
to
access
all the files, drives and printers that are on my other machines.
(1
is
XP
Home SP2, 2 are MAC OSX) On the Vista machine I am able to access
everything
on the network. Edit, copy, delete anything I want on the other
machines.

Now on the Vista machine I am not able to share anything.

In the NETWORK AND SHARING CENTER I have turned on Network
discovery,
File
Sharing, Printer Sharing, Media Sharing, I have turned off
Password
protected
sharing.

When I right click on a drive and go to SHARING, the drives
properties
open
to the sharing tab. The box to share the drive is grayed out, and
I
am
not
able to turn sharing for that drive on. If I go into the Advanced
Sharing,
and check the Share this folder box at the top, the Add and
Remove
buttons
are grayed out.

I have not been able to share anything on the Vista machine. I
can
access
the network from the Vista machine, and see and do what I want.
From
the
XP
machine I can see the Vista machine, but nothing is shared.

I spent a few hours with Tech support in a chat, and then a few
more
hours
on a phone call. After that they gave me a case # and told me a
tech
would
call me after they researched the problem.

I received a call from Microsoft today, and they said that this
was
not
an
option in VISTA HOME BASIC, that networking is restricted in this
version.

Is this correct? If not, how do I go about sharing a file/drive
on
my
Vista
machine?


You're in the right place once you've clicked on Advanced Sharing.

After clicking the 'Share this folder' you click on Permissions and
add
the
user (who needs to have an account both on your Vista machine and
your
XP
machine) that you want to add, eg with full control permissions.
 

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