UMAX ASTRA 610P SCANNER DRIVERS

[Guest]

Has anybody got any idea how I can get my Astra 610P scanner to work under
Windows XP Pro?

It is supposedly supported using WMIA drivers (Umax do not do an XP driver).
I have downloaded and tried all the various Umax drivers (for Windows 2000/ME
etc.)

I have also tried all the suggestions I could find on the Net, including on
the Microsoft site.

In 6 months I have managed to get the scanner working three times, but each
time I shut down my PC, the next time I boot up XP can't see the scanner. The
Scanner And Camera Wizard says "The computer cannot detect the scanner or
camera. Please make sure the device is turned on and properly connected to
the computer."

On the second occasion that the scanner worked, it did not work when I
booted up the next time. So I deleted C:\Windows\Twain.dll and
C:\Windows\Twain_32.dll and also all TWAIN... folders, and deleted the
scanner. When I booted up again and added the imaging device (scanner) it
actually worked. However, I have not been able to get it to work since.

The scanned worked without problems under Windows 98.

People say "buy a new scanner", but I think that is a defeatist approach and
the waste of a perfectly good scanner that gives perfectly good results
(Operating system allowing).

Can anybody tell me how to get it working every time?

 

[DL]

People say "buy a new scanner", but I think that is a defeatist approach
and

the waste of a perfectly good scanner that gives perfectly good results
(Operating system allowing).

If you cannot find a winxp suitable driver, that will give you full
functionality, you cannot expect it to function without problems

 

[Evadne Cake]

Has anybody got any idea how I can get my Astra 610P scanner to work under
Windows XP Pro?

It is supposedly supported using WMIA drivers (Umax do not do an XP driver).
I have downloaded and tried all the various Umax drivers (for Windows 2000/ME

etc.)

I have also tried all the suggestions I could find on the Net, including on
the Microsoft site.

In 6 months I have managed to get the scanner working three times, but each
time I shut down my PC, the next time I boot up XP can't see the scanner. The

Scanner And Camera Wizard says "The computer cannot detect the scanner or
camera. Please make sure the device is turned on and properly connected to
the computer."

On the second occasion that the scanner worked, it did not work when I
booted up the next time. So I deleted C:\Windows\Twain.dll and
C:\Windows\Twain_32.dll and also all TWAIN... folders, and deleted the
scanner. When I booted up again and added the imaging device (scanner) it
actually worked. However, I have not been able to get it to work since.

The scanned worked without problems under Windows 98.

People say "buy a new scanner", but I think that is a defeatist approach and
the waste of a perfectly good scanner that gives perfectly good results
(Operating system allowing).

Can anybody tell me how to get it working every time?

I have a perfectly good Betamax VCR , why should I buy VHS? That's more or
less what you're asking. You have 10 year old scanner and you expect there to
be drivers for a 3 year old OS. That scanner was obsolete when XP went gold.
Replacing it isn't "defeatist" it's the practical thing to do.

 

[S.Sengupta]

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q293356
http://www.scanner-drivers.com/drivers/62/62515.htm

regards,
ssg MS-MVP

 

[plew]

I have a perfectly good Betamax VCR , why should I buy VHS? That's more or
less what you're asking. You have 10 year old scanner and you expect there to
be drivers for a 3 year old OS. That scanner was obsolete when XP went gold.
Replacing it isn't "defeatist" it's the practical thing to do.

Winxp only list the 610 model scanner by umax & it doesn't even list
the umax/astra 2200. If m$ has listed the scanner & provided the
driver on their system, it should work especially if it was id'ed as
a m$ driver product.

10 year old monitors should still work in winxp; 10 yr old scsi
hard drives should still work; 10 yr old modems should still work;
10 yr old printers should still work; 10 yr old keyboards should
still work.

The OP had stated a situation that was similar to my & a few others'
experiences with connection to an external dial-up modem. For whatever
reason, windows terminal programs, especially the program that came with
windows, no longer can find the modem BUT the "test" claims that it is
there; my solution was to dig out my DOS terminal program which worked
& just told my coworker to use a DOS program or reinstall windows
& pray.

 

[Richard Urban [MVP]]

What you, and everybody else, forget is that Microsoft doesn't do 3rd party
drivers. They are supplied ***TO*** Microsoft by the various hardware
manufacturers, for inclusion with the operating system. If the device
manufacturer does not supply them, there is no native support for the old
device in the new operating system.

If the device manufacturer does NOT want to update "their" device drivers to
make THEIR old device compatible with a new operating system - take it up
with the device manufacturer! They are the ones who are forcing you to buy
new equipment, not the operating system supplier.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Quote from: George Ankner
"If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"

 

[kurttrail]

Has anybody got any idea how I can get my Astra 610P scanner to work
under Windows XP Pro?

It is supposedly supported using WMIA drivers (Umax do not do an XP
driver). I have downloaded and tried all the various Umax drivers
(for Windows 2000/ME etc.)

I have also tried all the suggestions I could find on the Net,
including on the Microsoft site.

In 6 months I have managed to get the scanner working three times,
but each time I shut down my PC, the next time I boot up XP can't see
the scanner. The Scanner And Camera Wizard says "The computer cannot
detect the scanner or camera. Please make sure the device is turned
on and properly connected to the computer."

On the second occasion that the scanner worked, it did not work when I
booted up the next time. So I deleted C:\Windows\Twain.dll and
C:\Windows\Twain_32.dll and also all TWAIN... folders, and deleted the
scanner. When I booted up again and added the imaging device
(scanner) it actually worked. However, I have not been able to get it
to work since.

The scanned worked without problems under Windows 98.

People say "buy a new scanner", but I think that is a defeatist
approach and the waste of a perfectly good scanner that gives
perfectly good results (Operating system allowing).

Can anybody tell me how to get it working every time?

Parallel port scanners are problem. Probably time to get a sanner made
in this century, OR create a dual boot with and OS that will run it.

--
Peace!
Kurt
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[kurttrail]

What you, and everybody else, forget is that Microsoft doesn't do 3rd
party drivers. They are supplied ***TO*** Microsoft by the various
hardware manufacturers, for inclusion with the operating system. If
the device manufacturer does not supply them, there is no native
support for the old device in the new operating system.

If the device manufacturer does NOT want to update "their" device
drivers to make THEIR old device compatible with a new operating
system - take it up with the device manufacturer! They are the ones
who are forcing you to buy new equipment, not the operating system
supplier.

Actually MS does do some WIA drivers.

--
Peace!
Kurt
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"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
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[plew]

So if the properties of the device says that the driver provider
is microsoft, doesn't that mean that microsoft is culprit? If the
driver came with the OS & it says driver provider is microsoft, then
microsoft is responsible for the working of the driver.

If microsoft is not responsible, then m$ should NOT claim that they
are providing the drivers but list the manufacturer; Voyetra & ATI
are listed as the providers of the drivers for their products in
the device properties. My LG & Mashita DVD-writers properties say
the drivers for them was provided by microsoft.

If there is no support for the old stuff in the new OS then the
drivers should be removed instead of misleading users by providing
& installing invalid drivers, especially if the drivers has the
"microsoft signature".

 

[Richard Urban [MVP]]

Windows XP doesn't do DVD writing! So, you have to install dedicated
software to get the full capabilities of your LG & Mashita DVD-writer.

My Canon scanner works fine with the wia drivers supplied with the operating
system. But it works a whole hell of a lot better using the Canon drivers
and software. But then, the Canon scanner (new) was designed to be able to
utilize the wia drivers because it was introduced "after" the operating
system was released to the market. The Umax scanner in question was an
antique even before Windows XP was released for consumption. People buy a
new computer every 2-3 years but want to keep using the same old garbage
hardware from 10 years ago.

Things change - hopefully for the better.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Quote from: George Ankner
"If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"

 

[kurttrail]

Windows XP doesn't do DVD writing! So, you have to install dedicated
software to get the full capabilities of your LG & Mashita DVD-writer.

My Canon scanner works fine with the wia drivers supplied with the
operating system. But it works a whole hell of a lot better using the
Canon drivers and software. But then, the Canon scanner (new) was
designed to be able to utilize the wia drivers because it was
introduced "after" the operating system was released to the market.
The Umax scanner in question was an antique even before Windows XP
was released for consumption. People buy a new computer every 2-3
years but want to keep using the same old garbage hardware from 10
years ago.
Things change - hopefully for the better.

Haw! I keep my Umax 1200s as long as it is working. It's damned hard
to find a legal-sized scanner cheap these days.

--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
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"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"

 

[plew]

I'm still using my 9 yr old postcript laser printer; still works
very well so why should I buy a new printer?

My 5 yr old scsi adapter still works excellently as well as a
6 or 7 yr old umax 2200 scanner connected to it. Don't see a
need to get another scsi adapter or scanner yet.

My sound card is over 5 yr old & still running good; the motherboard
is around 6 yr old & still working with winxp at 900 mhz.

 

[Yves Leclerc]

I am lead to believe: Umax Astra 610P is a "parallel port" based scanner.
Windows NT, 2000, XP and 2003 do not allow direct access to hardware ports
such as the parallel ports. You can find some other device drivers that
will allow you to have direct access to the ports but those drivers do not
normally have support included with them. They as listed as "use at your
own risk". With the prices of scanner dropping constantly, buying a newer
one, with an included warranty, should be considered.

An original IBM AT can still be working in 2005. It does not mean that you
can, or should, try to install XP on it. It makes no sense.

 

[Richard Urban [MVP]]

That's fine. If the hardware you want to use works with the operating system
you want to use, just keep using it. But if you are using Windows XP and it
(your hardware) doesn't work, the manufacturer must supply the necessary
drivers and interface. If they do not, you are stuck between a rock and a
hard place. Or, you could continue to use Windows 98/ME.

I have a lot of old equipment that works just fine that I toss each year,
from toaster ovens to fishing tackle to T.V. sets. How many people sell a
car that really works good, just because they are ready for a new one? Maybe
they just want more comfortable seats or air conditioning.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Quote from: George Ankner
"If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"

 

[Guest]

--
Thanks, Chris.

What you, and everybody else, forget is that Microsoft doesn't do 3rd party
drivers. They are supplied ***TO*** Microsoft by the various hardware
manufacturers, for inclusion with the operating system. If the device
manufacturer does not supply them, there is no native support for the old
device in the new operating system.

If the device manufacturer does NOT want to update "their" device drivers to
make THEIR old device compatible with a new operating system - take it up
with the device manufacturer! They are the ones who are forcing you to buy
new equipment, not the operating system supplier.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Quote from: George Ankner
"If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"




Whilst I agree that the problem is caused by the scanner manufacturer not supplying an up-to-date driver, if an operating system professes to support the particular scanner I don't think it unreasonable to expect it to work every time I boot up, not just once in a blue moon.

 

[Guest]

--
Thanks, Chris.

Windows XP doesn't do DVD writing! So, you have to install dedicated
software to get the full capabilities of your LG & Mashita DVD-writer.

My Canon scanner works fine with the wia drivers supplied with the operating
system. But it works a whole hell of a lot better using the Canon drivers
and software. But then, the Canon scanner (new) was designed to be able to
utilize the wia drivers because it was introduced "after" the operating
system was released to the market. The Umax scanner in question was an
antique even before Windows XP was released for consumption. People buy a
new computer every 2-3 years but want to keep using the same old garbage
hardware from 10 years ago.

Things change - hopefully for the better.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Quote from: George Ankner
"If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"

People buy a new PC every 2-3 years because the software becomes so bloated
with facilities you don't need or use, and therefore need more space and
speed to maintain the status quo.

I see no reason that a piece of equipment should become redundant purely
because of age. If it doe the job and does it well, why replace it??

 

[Guest]

--
Thanks, Chris.

I am lead to believe: Umax Astra 610P is a "parallel port" based scanner.
Windows NT, 2000, XP and 2003 do not allow direct access to hardware ports
such as the parallel ports. You can find some other device drivers that
will allow you to have direct access to the ports but those drivers do not
normally have support included with them. They as listed as "use at your
own risk". With the prices of scanner dropping constantly, buying a newer
one, with an included warranty, should be considered.

An original IBM AT can still be working in 2005. It does not mean that you
can, or should, try to install XP on it. It makes no sense.

So what if the Umax Astra 610P is a parallel port scanner? It's not on an
original IBM AT but on a new PC running the latest operating system that
allegedly supports that specific model of scanner.

 

[Guest]

--
Thanks, Chris.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q293356
http://www.scanner-drivers.com/drivers/62/62515.htm

regards,
ssg MS-MVP

Thanks, but been there, done that. I have tried every Umax 610P driver on
Drivers.com but none of then work under Windows XP.

At least you proposed a suggestion, rather than comment on how "old" and
"out-of-date" the scanner is. Thanks for that.

 

[Guest]

EUREKA!!!

Would you believe it, I have actually got my scanner to work under Windows
XP every time I switch it on. The secret? Switch on the printer! I have
absolutely no idea why.

The scanner is connected to the PC's parallel port and the printer is
connected to the scanner (i.e. it connects to the PC via a pass-through
port). So if anything, you might expect the printer not to work if the
scanner was turned off, not the otherway round. They should (and both did
under Windows 98) work independently.

I am using VistaScan32 V3.1 and the driver for the scanner is Microsoft
5.1.2600.0 dated 01/07/2001