TV-out, radeon 9800 pro

[Greger Hoel]

I'm thinking of buying a Radeon 9800 Pro, but I need good tv-out
functionality, as I use my PC for playing back DVDs and multimedia
files on my TV. I now use a Geforce3, with TVTool, which unlike nview
enlarges the TV image somewhat, effectively utilizing the whole TV
screen. With nview, I'd be stuck with a black frame around the TV
image. Will the Radeon 9800 pro TV-out software let me use the entire
TV screen?

thanks,

Grgr
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[Tedd Belle]

yes - theatre mode

 

[Geoff]

yes - theatre mode

and where do you find the setting for that ?
i assume you mean the overscan setting, which is currently broke in the
drivers

 

[Tony DiMarzio]

Yes. The over-scan feature will accomplish this for you. I use it myself and
have found it to work fine since Cat 4.1.

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I'm thinking of buying a Radeon 9800 Pro, but I need good tv-out
functionality, as I use my PC for playing back DVDs and multimedia
files on my TV. I now use a Geforce3, with TVTool, which unlike nview
enlarges the TV image somewhat, effectively utilizing the whole TV
screen. With nview, I'd be stuck with a black frame around the TV
image. Will the Radeon 9800 pro TV-out software let me use the entire
TV screen?

thanks,

Grgr
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[Inglo]

Tedd Belle wrote:



and where do you find the setting for that ?
i assume you mean the overscan setting, which is currently broke in the
drivers

It's in display properties>overlay>clone mode options>theater mode radio
button. Then you can choose whether the overlay is at 4:3 or 16:9.
This still leaves the desktop slip-sliding across the tv screen (desktop
is set at 1024x768 but you only see 2/3 of it and have to sort of bounce
it around your tv screen to see the whole thing) but the video overlay
is displayed correctly. I don't know about it being broken, the last
time I used it was on someone else's computer with the 4.4 drivers and
it worked fine.

Greger, the Radeon will just not work as well as the GeForce w/
TV-Tool. Like I said I got it to work on a friend's system, but on mine
(when I had a 9600 Pro), I just couldn't get TV-Out to work right where
as my GF3+TVTool worked great. I've since upgraded from a 9600 to a
9800 Pro and haven't even tried TV-Out with it (when I had problems with
the 9600 I just broke down and bought a DVD player and learned how to
burn VCDs).
But shit, you're getting the 9800 Pro to play Doom 3, right?

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Steve [Inglo]

 

[Greger Hoel]

Greger, the Radeon will just not work as well as the GeForce w/
TV-Tool. Like I said I got it to work on a friend's system, but on mine
(when I had a 9600 Pro), I just couldn't get TV-Out to work right where
as my GF3+TVTool worked great. I've since upgraded from a 9600 to a
9800 Pro and haven't even tried TV-Out with it (when I had problems with
the 9600 I just broke down and bought a DVD player and learned how to
burn VCDs).
But shit, you're getting the 9800 Pro to play Doom 3, right?

Well, yeah, but I'll still need the same TV-out functionality I have
now with my Geforce3 with TVTool. I can't afford a new gfx card *and*
a standalone DVD player. Besides, re-encoding to vcd sucks arse. Also,
you can't use TVTool with the newer Geforce cards, as they don't have
separate TV-out chips. I guess I could go with nview, but I have my
doubts about being dependant on nvidia's gfx software suite
considering that in the past you had to use third party software just
to get the display to fill the whole tv screen!
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[Inglo]

Well, yeah, but I'll still need the same TV-out functionality I have
now with my Geforce3 with TVTool. I can't afford a new gfx card *and*
a standalone DVD player. Besides, re-encoding to vcd sucks arse. Also,
you can't use TVTool with the newer Geforce cards, as they don't have
separate TV-out chips. I guess I could go with nview, but I have my
doubts about being dependant on nvidia's gfx software suite
considering that in the past you had to use third party software just
to get the display to fill the whole tv screen!

I think the TV-Out looks fine and all on the Radeon, its just more of a
hassle to get it going. I had got very used to how simple using TV-Tool
was and was frustrated by the catalyst software.
You know the easiest, hassle free TV-Out I ever dealt with was on my
Voodoo 3 3000.

 

[Tony DiMarzio]

I use to use TV-TOOL when I was using my Geforce3 for tv-out. When I
switched to my 9800 pro I had to use the catalyst control panel. I found it
to be plently capable and simple to use. With NVidia I had to use 3rd party
applications (like tv-tool) to get a full screen output. Not so with ATI.

The Overscan option works just fine.

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Well, yeah, but I'll still need the same TV-out functionality I have
now with my Geforce3 with TVTool. I can't afford a new gfx card *and*
a standalone DVD player. Besides, re-encoding to vcd sucks arse. Also,
you can't use TVTool with the newer Geforce cards, as they don't have
separate TV-out chips. I guess I could go with nview, but I have my
doubts about being dependant on nvidia's gfx software suite
considering that in the past you had to use third party software just
to get the display to fill the whole tv screen!

I think the TV-Out looks fine and all on the Radeon, its just more of a
hassle to get it going. I had got very used to how simple using TV-Tool
was and was frustrated by the catalyst software.
You know the easiest, hassle free TV-Out I ever dealt with was on my
Voodoo 3 3000.

--
The Brain From Planet Arous (1958):
"Bad alien Gor takes over scientist Steve's brain; good alien Vol takes over Steve's dog's brain."

Steve [Inglo]

 

[I discuss]

But overscan cut off too much contents/ pictures on the edges!

 

[Tony DiMarzio]

"too much" is subjective to the content your displaying. I don't think it's
too much when your watchin 16x9 dvd's.

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But overscan cut off too much contents/ pictures on the edges!

 

[Mac Cool]

You know the easiest, hassle free TV-Out I ever dealt with was on my
Voodoo 3 3000.

amen

 

[Greger Hoel]

I think the TV-Out looks fine and all on the Radeon, its just more of a
hassle to get it going. I had got very used to how simple using TV-Tool
was and was frustrated by the catalyst software.

I hear you there. It's hard to imagine anything being easier to
operate than TVTool. I'm still torn at what to do here. *Everybody* -
and their uncle Bob - advices the Radeon 9800 pro for a badass 3D card
in my price range, but the horror stories of ATI driver ****ups and
whatnot are troubling.

You know the easiest, hassle free TV-Out I ever dealt with was on my
Voodoo 3 3000.

How much do you want for it?
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