trying to build PC...Intel MB

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JAD

ohhhh come on....... i only typed 10 words...... man i may be a monkey but your a way sensitive.... kinda like my limp wristed
nieghbor
 
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Nick Le Lievre

Dave Hull said:
Nice mischaracterization.

Dave

Yeah I cancelled this message and corrected my mistake on the copy below
(should two memory sticks both of them post) it obviously wasn`t cancelled
on your newserver.
 
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JAD

Yeah I cancelled this message and corrected my mistake on the copy below
(should two memory sticks both of them post) it obviously wasn`t cancelled
on your newserver.



far from the point!...of Daves post......
 
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Nick Le Lievre

JAD said:
Yeah I cancelled this message and corrected my mistake on the copy below

far from the point!...of Daves post......

I agree you do need some tools but there is no substitute for expierience -
still I`d like to see a multimeter detect a faulty memory stick that passes
POST and only shows intermittent blue screens - electricity aint clever its
just electricity its what you do with it that counts.
 
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JAD

you keep harpin on the few things a multimeter CAN't do.....sorta dumb kinda like saying my car won't fly so it must be useless
 
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Nick Le Lievre

JAD said:
you keep harpin on the few things a multimeter CAN't do.....sorta dumb
kinda like saying my car won't fly so it must be useless
Its practically useless when diagnosing PC problems except to make you look
like your a professional.
 
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JAD

Nick,

What is your age? You seem to have no life experience.......when it comes to repair professions. Nobody buys tools to LOOK
professional, and if you were someone like that, then your whole life would be a farce.
 
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Nick Le Lievre

JAD said:
Nick,

What is your age? You seem to have no life experience.......when it comes
to repair professions. Nobody buys tools to LOOK
professional, and if you were someone like that, then your whole life would be a farce.

Lets get one thing straight there is a difference between repairing
equipment and replacing equipment when it is found to be faulty. My methods
(w/o use of multimeter) enable me to find faulty hardware and send it back
for replacement or buy a replacement becuase I do not have the skills /
tools to repair or it is not worth repairing. From my point of view it is
good that is not worth repairing therefore its not worth me having those
skills which I have no wish to have anyway.

I know its simple easy to repair some faults like bad capicitors on
motherboards but I wouldnt say those skills are the most important in an
organisation where your role is to find problems and get them fix by
identifying faulty hardware and sending it back under RMA or replacing it.
If you job is too repair at component level different story.
 
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Bill Turner

Okay, let's take this analogy one step further so I can school you.

_________________________________________________________

Lighten up, Chaz. Tom's advice is correct for someone who wants to
*learn* about computers. Your advice is correct for someone who wants
to *fix* computers.

Both avenues have their merits. Neither one is solely the *right* way
to go.
 
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Gary W. Swearingen

Chaz said:
How many diagnostic tools does the average can owner have? Let
me think. A battery charger perhaps? Certainly not a tire balancer,
rotor lathe, chip analyzer, battery tester, electronics diagnostic
center, etc etc etc. The average car owner has none of these.

Good example. My car recently died. I put a voltmeter on a couple
test terminals and by counting the number of times it swung across, it
told me that there was a problem with the fuel pump circuit. Further
use of the voltmeter found the problem to be a short in the fuel pump
(in the fuel tank!). How much stuff to you think you would have had
to replace to get it working again with your trial and error method?
And I didn't have to buy a $4,000 dollar analyzer like they have at
the shop.

A multimeter is very cheap when compared to the cost in money and time
to swap parts. Obviously, it doesn't always find your problem and
sometimes if you have the parts to swap, that's easier. Etc. But if
you want to live your life without taking a few minutes or hours to
learn to use a multimeter, then you're going to waste a lot of time
and money.
 
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Gary W. Swearingen

No, I did both. Someone asked what post Chaz was replying to
and I answered him.

And I don't think what you said I think. I was on your side of the
issue. My logic analyzer comment was a joke about some people's poor
ability to logically analyze things. And I said "if you know what I
mean" to give you a clue that it was a joke. The comment apparently
applied to more than Chaz.
 
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JAD

Further inquiries have led me to the ohm rating of different modules and if there is a discrepancy in the factories spec and what
your getting on the meter COULD identify a bad mod....
 
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Kevin Wright

Guys,

But did all this bickering get his problem solved???Isn't that why he posted on
Usenet??? Not looking for a flaming, I was just wondering if he ever resolved
his situation...Mike, Did you get your problem resolved???

Kevin
 

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