Trouble adding user or group

[RB]

What error message(s) are you now getting when you try to access the share?

The same, (no difference ) "Access Denied" This is all I have ever gotten
the entire spectrum of attempts I have tried in all scenarios with the exception of
the one "first" try (can't remember the "conflicting" msg but it is one of the previous replies back).
It has never occurred since, but Access Denied is 100% reliable on my laptop everytime
since, and in fact was part of the first scenario in that if I first clicked the plus + sign
prior to clicking the actual sharename I got that one time "conflicting....." msg, but then
if I clicked the actual sharename I also got the Access Denied. But since that one
and only first time I have never gotten anything but Access Denied, sometimes now
if I click the + sign I get nothing (as in nothing happens or shows) and sometimes
when I click the + sign I will get the Access Denied, But "always" when I click the
actual sharename I "always" get the Access Denied.
My Laptop is cursed.

 

[John John - MVP]

The same, (no difference ) "Access Denied" This is all I have ever gotten
the entire spectrum of attempts I have tried in all scenarios with the exception of
the one "first" try (can't remember the "conflicting" msg but it is one of the previous replies back).
It has never occurred since, but Access Denied is 100% reliable on my laptop everytime
since, and in fact was part of the first scenario in that if I first clicked the plus + sign
prior to clicking the actual sharename I got that one time "conflicting....." msg, but then
if I clicked the actual sharename I also got the Access Denied. But since that one
and only first time I have never gotten anything but Access Denied, sometimes now
if I click the + sign I get nothing (as in nothing happens or shows) and sometimes
when I click the + sign I will get the Access Denied, But "always" when I click the
actual sharename I "always" get the Access Denied.
My Laptop is cursed.

This message:?

"\\Desktop\DesktopSharedFolder is not accessible. You might not have
permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of
this server to find out if you have access permissions.
Access is Denied"

Sorry to ask for these confirmations but there are all kinds of network
error messages and subtle differences in the messages can make all the
difference in the world when trouble shooting the network.

I think that your problems are NetBIOS or Master Browser related or that
the permissions on the share are not properly set. Please look in the
Event Log and see if there are Master Browser errors recorded.

1- Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled (on the network
adapter) on both machines:

Go to Network Connections:
- Right click the local area network connection and click Properties.
- Double click Internet Protocol (TCP/IP).
- Click Advanced.
- Click WINS.
- Click the Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP button.

2- Make sure that the TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper service is running on both
machines.

3- Make sure that the Browser service is running on at least one machine.

An almost surefire way of determining if the problem is NetBIOS or
Browser related is to try to connect to the network resource by its IP
address instead of its NetBIOS name. Try connecting to the resource in
the Start Menu Run box, example:

\\192.168.x.x\ShareName\FolderName


Finally, please run this command and give us the results:

net view desktop


John

 

[RB]

This message:?

"\\Desktop\DesktopSharedFolder is not accessible. You might not have
permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of
this server to find out if you have access permissions.
Access is Denied"

Well you get the above msg if you click on the plus + sign, but if you click
on the actual shared folder name you just only get "Access Denied"

I got this from a command shell, and wondered if it meant anything
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net use \\Desktop1\Desktop1Shared

Local name
Remote name \\Desktop1\Desktop1Shared
Resource type Disk
Status Ok
#Opens 0
#Connections 1
The command completed successfully.

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I think that your problems are NetBIOS or Master Browser related or that the permissions on the share are not properly set.
Please look in the Event Log and see if there are Master Browser errors recorded.

What or where is that log ? In my Security Log settings it is configured for a log
named C:\WINDOWS\pfirewall.log , but there is no file by that name when I look /

1- Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled (on the network adapter) on both machines:

Go to Network Connections:
- Right click the local area network connection and click Properties.
- Double click Internet Protocol (TCP/IP).
- Click Advanced.
- Click WINS.
- Click the Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP button.

2- Make sure that the TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper service is running on both machines.

Well I did this and tried acces again same Denied msgs (as before)
Maybe I need to reboot both machines (I will try that after I send this)
I checked the Enable Netbios over TCP/IP as you said on both nodes,
before it had the Default checked which was
Use NetBIOS setting from the DHCP server (which would be my router)
Still more of what you asked for below

3- Make sure that the Browser service is running on at least one machine.

I don't know what this is ?

An almost surefire way of determining if the problem is NetBIOS or Browser related is to try to connect to the network resource by
its IP address instead of its NetBIOS name. Try connecting to the resource in the Start Menu Run box, example:
\\192.168.x.x\ShareName\FolderName

I did this and got the below:
start->run \\192.168.1.1\\Desktop\DesktopShared
returns :
\\192.168.1.1 \\Desktop\DesktopShared
The network path was not found
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Finally, please run this command and give us the results:

net view desktop

returns:
Shared resources at Desktop
Share name Type Used as Comment
DesktopShared Disk <UNC>
HP-C-6180 Print HP Photosmart C6100 series
The command completed successfully
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I have a minor separate question, I read somewhere in the past that
NetBIOS was not a secure protocol. Why would that statement be
said ? I surmise that all of my security depends on my password in this case.

 

[RB]

Please read previous post first for completeness but these are corrections to typos
net use \\Desktop1\Desktop1Shared had a 1 typo in it.

should have been
\\Desktop\DesktopShared
( my redirection pipe sometimes does not work on some
commands, others it does)

and
start->run \\192.168.1.1\\Desktop\DesktopShared
was a mistake on my part, 1.1 is the router, when I realized
what I had done I tried it with \\192.168.1.3 which is the current
dhcp ip for the Desktop
unfortunately it still returned
\\192.168.1.3 \\Desktop\DesktopShared
The network path was not found
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[John John - MVP]

Well you get the above msg if you click on the plus + sign, but if you click
on the actual shared folder name you just only get "Access Denied"

I got this from a command shell, and wondered if it meant anything
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net use \\Desktop1\Desktop1Shared

Local name
Remote name \\Desktop1\Desktop1Shared
Resource type Disk
Status Ok
#Opens 0
#Connections 1
The command completed successfully.

What is going on with your Desktop computer name? One minute it's
Desktop, the next it's Desktop1?

Also, while on the subject of names make sure that both machines are in
the same workgroup.

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What or where is that log ?

In the Start menu Run box enter the following command:

eventvwr.msc

Look at the *System* log. To open (read) an event double click on it.
To copy the event click on the clipboard icon (below the Up/Down arrows
at the upper right). If you want information on an event post the
contents of the event to your post.

Well I did this and tried acces again same Denied msgs (as before)
Maybe I need to reboot both machines (I will try that after I send this)
I checked the Enable Netbios over TCP/IP as you said on both nodes,
before it had the Default checked which was
Use NetBIOS setting from the DHCP server (which would be my router)
Still more of what you asked for below

The TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper *Service* is set in the Services Management
console. To open the console enter the following command in the Start
menu Run Box:

services.msc

Scroll down the list to TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper and make sure that the
service is running. In the "Startup type" drop down box set the service
to "Automatic" start, do this on both computers.

I don't know what this is ?

In the Services Management console, (services.msc), look for Computer
Browser.

I did this and got the below:
start->run \\192.168.1.1\\Desktop\DesktopShared

No, the command is not right. Don't put the computer name along with
the IP address, use one or the other but not both. Try:

\\192.168.1.1\DesktopShared

The ping command can also reveal certain things:

Ping desktop


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I have a minor separate question, I read somewhere in the past that
NetBIOS was not a secure protocol.

NetBIOS is not a protocol, maybe you were thinking of NetBEUI.

John

 

[RB]

What is going on with your Desktop computer name? One minute it's
Desktop, the next it's Desktop1?

Sorry about that I explained that in the later post, it was a typo (paste thing)

Also, while on the subject of names make sure that both machines are in the same workgroup.

Oh yes has been always been such

Look at the *System* log.

Ok I found how to view this

1- Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled (on the network adapter) on both machines:
Go to Network Connections:
- Right click the local area network connection and click Properties.
- Double click Internet Protocol (TCP/IP).
- Click Advanced.
- Click WINS.
- Click the Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP button.

Well I did this as instructed last night on both machines and checked it again this
morning and it is still enabled just as above

2- Make sure that the TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper service is running on both machines.
Scroll down the list to TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper and make sure that the service is running. In the "Startup type" drop down box set
the service to "Automatic" start, do this on both computers.

But I do not see any TCP/IP NetBIOS in any of the event viewer system list ?
I do see TCPIP only a few times and a bunch of ServiceControlManager listings..
I will try to get you a copy later, I have got to get to work
right now and the export of the event viewer is not spaced to be readable.

3- Make sure that the Browser service is running on at least one machine.

In the Services Management console, (services.msc), look for Computer Browser.

Well in the ComputerManagement->ServicesAndApplications->Services
there is a list of a bunch of things, and while I cannot see anything that says
Browser, I do see a TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper in this listing and it's Status is Started
and it's type is Automatic, and it's path (under properties) is
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k LocalService

Also I see several listings for PeerNetworking items and the status for all of them
is blank, i.e. not started, and the type for all of them is set to manual.
Should I try to set these to automatic ?

An almost surefire way of determining if the problem is NetBIOS or Browser related is to try to connect to the network resource by
its IP address instead of its NetBIOS name. Try connecting to the resource in the Start Menu Run box, example:
\\192.168.x.x\ShareName\FolderName

No, the command is not right. Don't put the computer name along with the IP address, use one or the other but not both. Try:
\\192.168.1.1\DesktopShared

Tried this again on \\192.168.1.2\DesktopShared and (3) and (4)
last night the dhcp had the desktop on 192.168.1.3 but none of them work.
Gives msg that
The Network path was not found.
And just to be clear, the \DesktopShared is the folder name of the shared folder
on the Desktop, I suspect whatever is keeping me from being able to type my password
is also keeping me from viewing this.

The ping command can also reveal certain things:
Ping desktop

Ok I can ping it, I have gotten this before, ping is something I have used in the past.
here is what I get.
First just to get it's current dhcp I run
arp -a
Interface: 192.168.1.2 --- 0x2
Internet Address Physical Address Type
192.168.1.1 00-12-17-c9-96-31 dynamic
192.168.1.3 00-22-68-52-52-c9 dynamic
So I know the router is 1.1 and that leaves the Desktop as 1.3
so then I
ping 192.168.1.3
Pinging 192.168.1.3 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
Ping statistics for 192.168.1.3:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 1ms, Maximum = 1ms, Average = 1ms
----------ugh you must have a lot of patience going thru all of this
with me. I do appreciate it but I am starting to wonder if my laptop
is just screwed up beyond all foobar. There is one thing, My
Laptop is running XP Media Edition which for the most part
acts like XP Pro but just wondering if that is an issue.
Later. (Have a good life in between my nightmare posts)
I have got to get to work, I am late

 

[John John - MVP]

Sorry about that I explained that in the later post, it was a typo (paste thing)


Oh yes has been always been such


Ok I found how to view this


Well I did this as instructed last night on both machines and checked it again this
morning and it is still enabled just as above


But I do not see any TCP/IP NetBIOS in any of the event viewer system list ?
I do see TCPIP only a few times and a bunch of ServiceControlManager listings..
I will try to get you a copy later, I have got to get to work
right now and the export of the event viewer is not spaced to be readable.



Well in the ComputerManagement->ServicesAndApplications->Services
there is a list of a bunch of things, and while I cannot see anything that says
Browser,

It's "Computer Browser".

I do see a TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper in this listing and it's Status is Started
and it's type is Automatic, and it's path (under properties) is
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k LocalService

Also I see several listings for PeerNetworking items and the status for all of them
is blank, i.e. not started, and the type for all of them is set to manual.
Should I try to set these to automatic ?

PeerNetworking? I have never seen these kinds of things in the Services
list, what exactly are these things? Double click on them and Copy &
Paste the display names and descriptions.

Tried this again on \\192.168.1.2\DesktopShared and (3) and (4)
last night the dhcp had the desktop on 192.168.1.3 but none of them work.
Gives msg that
The Network path was not found.
And just to be clear, the \DesktopShared is the folder name of the shared folder
on the Desktop, I suspect whatever is keeping me from being able to type my password
is also keeping me from viewing this.


Ok I can ping it, I have gotten this before, ping is something I have used in the past.
here is what I get.
First just to get it's current dhcp I run
arp -a
Interface: 192.168.1.2 --- 0x2
Internet Address Physical Address Type
192.168.1.1 00-12-17-c9-96-31 dynamic
192.168.1.3 00-22-68-52-52-c9 dynamic
So I know the router is 1.1 and that leaves the Desktop as 1.3
so then I
ping 192.168.1.3
Pinging 192.168.1.3 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
Ping statistics for 192.168.1.3:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 1ms, Maximum = 1ms, Average = 1ms
----------ugh you must have a lot of patience going thru all of this
with me. I do appreciate it but I am starting to wonder if my laptop
is just screwed up beyond all foobar. There is one thing, My
Laptop is running XP Media Edition which for the most part
acts like XP Pro but just wondering if that is an issue.
Later. (Have a good life in between my nightmare posts)
I have got to get to work, I am late

I don't mind trying to help as long as you have the patience to keep on
trying. The Ping command (by IP address) shows that a network
connection to the desktop is established.

Try the ping command with the computer name:

Ping desktop

Also try to connect to the share (in the Start Menu Run box) with the
computer name:

\\Desktop\DesktopShared

Please post the results of the 2 commands.

In the meantime we'll wait to see if any pertinent errors are showing in
the Event Log. The fact that you are using Media Edition should not
make any difference here, Media Edition is in fact XP Pro with added
media features. It could be that the laptop's TCP/IP stack is a bit
fubared but I don't think so, I still think this is a NetBIOS or an NTFS
permission issue. Verify the Share and NTFS permissions on the
DesktopShared share. Make sure that Everyone has read rights on the
share (Sharing Tab) and also make sure that Everyone has NTFS read
rights (in the Security Tab).

Also, I doubt that this is the problem but we may as well grasp the
straw and verify to make sure that it isn't the cause of the problem:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/913628
Error message when you try to access a Windows XP-based network
computer: "You might not have permission to use this network resource"

John

 

[John John - MVP]

If you don't mind maybe we should regroup and recap our findings and
take a second 'fresh' look at things.

Please do the following in this order and after reboot run the commands
before you try anything else:

1- Shutdown both machines.

2- Reboot Desktop and allow it to make its network connections and
settle down.

3- After Desktop has settled down reboot RB-LAPTOP and allow it to make
its network connections and settle down.

4- From Desktop run the following commands:

ipconfig /all >>c:\test.txt
ping RB-LAPTOP >>c:\test.txt
net view >>c:\test.txt
net view RB-LAPTOP >>c:\test.txt
net share >>c:\test.txt

c:\test.txt

Copy and paste the contents of the test.txt file to your next post.


5- From Laptop run the following commands:

ipconfig /all >>c:\test.txt
ping Desktop >>c:\test.txt
net view >>c:\test.txt
net view Desktop >>c:\test.txt

c:\test.txt

Copy and paste the contents of the test.txt file to your next post.



Tip: Instead of manually entering the commands you can copy the above
set of commands and make batch files (.bat) out of them:

---------------Desktop.bat----------------
ipconfig /all >>c:\test.txt
ping RB-LAPTOP >>c:\test.txt
net view >>c:\test.txt
net view RB-LAPTOP >>c:\test.txt
net share >>c:\test.txt
c:\test.txt

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and:

---------------Laptop.bat----------------
ipconfig /all >>c:\test.txt
ping Desktop >>c:\test.txt
net view >>c:\test.txt
net view Desktop >>c:\test.txt
c:\test.txt

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John

PS. Is the laptop using a wired or a wireless connection? If it's
wireless enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP on the wireless adapter. I'm a bit
leery to tell you to do http://support.microsoft.com/kb/913628 because
the network should work without it, but do it anyway before you reboot
the machine. It won't hurt anything and it can easily be reversed.

John

 

[RB]

Ok I think I got confused in previously trying to get your requested info
and reported info from differenet sources that what you were asking for.
So to start over

services.msc
brings up a screen that shows me the following requested listings

name status start type log on as
Computer Browser started Automatic Local System
Peer Name Resolution Protocol Manual Local System
Peer Networking Manual Local System
Peer Networking Group Authentication Manual Local System
Peer Networking Identity Manual Local System
TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper started Automatic Local System
====================================================
Please post the results of the 2 commands.
Try the ping command with the computer name:
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Ping Desktop
Pinging Desktop [192.168.1.3] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Ping statistics for

192.168.1.3: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4,
Lost = 0 (0% loss),Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms,

Maximum = 2ms, Average = 0ms------------------------------------

Also try to connect to the share (in the Start Menu Run box) with the
computer name:

\\Desktop\DesktopShared
\\Desktop\DesktopShared is not accessible. You might not have
permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator
of this server to find out if you have access permissions
Access denied
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We have one distinct difference between these two bat file returns and the laptop has something
going on that I don't even understand, I have the areas commented in each.
-----------Begin----Desktop.bat----------------
ipconfig /all >>c:\test.txt
ping RB-LAPTOP >>c:\test.txt
net view >>c:\test.txt
net view RB-LAPTOP >>c:\test.txt
net share >>c:\test.txt
c:\test.txt
Gives this,
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : DESKTOP
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : tampabay.rr.com
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
/* I'm starting to see differences here, the desktop is hard wired to the wireless router
ethernet port*/
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : tampabay.rr.com
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-22-68-52-52-C9
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.3
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 65.32.5.111
65.32.5.112
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, March 06, 2010 7:33:17 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, March 07, 2010 7:33:17 PM
Pinging RB-laptop [192.168.1.2] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Ping statistics for 192.168.1.2:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
Server Name Remark
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
\\RB-LAPTOP Gateway
\\DESKTOP
The command completed successfully.
Shared resources at RB-laptop
Gateway
Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SHARE_FOLDER Disk
The command completed successfully.

Share name Resource Remark
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
print$ C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\drivers
Printer Drivers
C$ C:\ Default share
ADMIN$ C:\WINDOWS Remote Admin
IPC$ Remote IPC
DESKTOPShared C:\D\DESKTOPShared
HP-C-6180 USB001 Spooled HP Photosmart C6100 series
The command completed successfully.

\\\\\\\\\\\\\END OF DESKTOP BAT RETURN\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
BEGIN LAPTOP BAT
From Laptop run the following commands:

ipconfig /all >>c:\test.txt
ping Desktop >>c:\test.txt
net view >>c:\test.txt
net view Desktop >>c:\test.txt
c:\test.txt
Gives this,
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : RB-Laptop
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : tampabay.rr.com
Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:
/* Obviously here, the Laptop is wireless to the router */
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : tampabay.rr.com
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 802.11g Network Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-14-A5-D0-30-F6
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::214:a5ff:fed0:30f6%4
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 65.32.5.111
65.32.5.112
fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, March 06, 2010 7:41:49 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, March 07, 2010 7:41:49 PM
Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::ffff:ffff:fffd%5
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
Tunnel adapter Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : tampabay.rr.com
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : C0-A8-01-02
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.1.2%2
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
/* and above I see Netbios is disabled over this Pseudo interface ?
but it "is" enabled on my laptop ? I made sure of it */
Pinging DESKTOP [192.168.1.3] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
Ping statistics for 192.168.1.3:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 1ms, Average = 0ms
Server Name Remark
-------------------------------------------------------
\\RB-LAPTOP Gateway
\\DESKTOP
The command completed successfully.
Shared resources at DESKTOP
Share name Type Used as Comment

 

[John John - MVP]

I was expecting to see a "System error 5" on the net view computername
commands... Are you following the instructions to a T?

Reboot both machines and do not do *anything* else before you run the
command, do not try to connect to the other computer, do not even try to
browse "My Network Places", run the commands before you attempt to make
a connection to the other computer... Reboot both machines and then run
this command only:

from the desktop:

net view RB-Laptop


and from the laptop:

net view desktop

You should get a "System error 5..." if you don't it means that you
have an authenticated connection to the other machine, either by
persistent connections or by way of the Guest account. Providing that
you log on to the machines with different credentials and that you have
no persistent connections, when _properly_ _secured_ you shouldn't have
any authenticated connections to the other machine until you make them
and the net view computername command should return a system error 5.
The System 5 error is quite simply a permission error, you aren't
authenticated on the other machine so you don't have permission to see
the available resources on the machine.

I'm going to have to review the results that you posted and think about
this a bit... The "net view" and Ping commands show that NetBIOS names
are resolved and that a connection is established between the machines.


Let's try to access a different share and see what happens. From the
laptop enter this in the Start Menu Run box:

\\Desktop\c$


(you have to supply credentials to an account with administrator rights
to access the c$ share)

I know that I am repeating myself but also make sure that you apply
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/913628 to the Desktop. And make sure
that *ALL* firewalls are *completely* disabled!

John

PS. As discussed with another poster try creating an account with an
identical username and password as that used to log on to the desktop on
the laptop and then log on to the laptop with the identical account and
see if things change.

Also, dont' forget to take a look in the Event Log (on both machines)...
you might find useful information there.

Ok I think I got confused in previously trying to get your requested info
and reported info from differenet sources that what you were asking for.
So to start over

services.msc
brings up a screen that shows me the following requested listings

name status start type log on as
Computer Browser started Automatic Local System
Peer Name Resolution Protocol Manual Local System
Peer Networking Manual Local System
Peer Networking Group Authentication Manual Local System
Peer Networking Identity Manual Local System
TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper started Automatic Local System
====================================================
Please post the results of the 2 commands.
Try the ping command with the computer name:
-----------------------------------------------------
Ping Desktop
Pinging Desktop [192.168.1.3] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Ping statistics for

192.168.1.3: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4,
Lost = 0 (0% loss),Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms,

Maximum = 2ms, Average = 0ms------------------------------------

Also try to connect to the share (in the Start Menu Run box) with the
computer name:

\\Desktop\DesktopShared
\\Desktop\DesktopShared is not accessible. You might not have
permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator
of this server to find out if you have access permissions
Access denied
--------------------------------------------------------
We have one distinct difference between these two bat file returns and the laptop has something
going on that I don't even understand, I have the areas commented in each.
-----------Begin----Desktop.bat----------------
ipconfig /all >>c:\test.txt
ping RB-LAPTOP >>c:\test.txt
net view >>c:\test.txt
net view RB-LAPTOP >>c:\test.txt
net share >>c:\test.txt
c:\test.txt
Gives this,
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : DESKTOP
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : tampabay.rr.com
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
/* I'm starting to see differences here, the desktop is hard wired to the wireless router
ethernet port*/
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : tampabay.rr.com
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-22-68-52-52-C9
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.3
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 65.32.5.111
65.32.5.112
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, March 06, 2010 7:33:17 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, March 07, 2010 7:33:17 PM
Pinging RB-laptop [192.168.1.2] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Ping statistics for 192.168.1.2:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
Server Name Remark
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
\\RB-LAPTOP Gateway
\\DESKTOP
The command completed successfully.
Shared resources at RB-laptop
Gateway
Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SHARE_FOLDER Disk
The command completed successfully.

Share name Resource Remark
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
print$ C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\drivers
Printer Drivers
C$ C:\ Default share
ADMIN$ C:\WINDOWS Remote Admin
IPC$ Remote IPC
DESKTOPShared C:\D\DESKTOPShared
HP-C-6180 USB001 Spooled HP Photosmart C6100 series
The command completed successfully.

\\\\\\\\\\\\\END OF DESKTOP BAT RETURN\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
BEGIN LAPTOP BAT
From Laptop run the following commands:

ipconfig /all >>c:\test.txt
ping Desktop >>c:\test.txt
net view >>c:\test.txt
net view Desktop >>c:\test.txt
c:\test.txt
Gives this,
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : RB-Laptop
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : tampabay.rr.com
Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:
/* Obviously here, the Laptop is wireless to the router */
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : tampabay.rr.com
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 802.11g Network Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-14-A5-D0-30-F6
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::214:a5ff:fed0:30f6%4
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 65.32.5.111
65.32.5.112
fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, March 06, 2010 7:41:49 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, March 07, 2010 7:41:49 PM
Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::ffff:ffff:fffd%5
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
Tunnel adapter Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : tampabay.rr.com
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : C0-A8-01-02
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.1.2%2
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
/* and above I see Netbios is disabled over this Pseudo interface ?
but it "is" enabled on my laptop ? I made sure of it */
Pinging DESKTOP [192.168.1.3] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
Ping statistics for 192.168.1.3:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 1ms, Average = 0ms
Server Name Remark
-------------------------------------------------------
\\RB-LAPTOP Gateway
\\DESKTOP
The command completed successfully.
Shared resources at DESKTOP
Share name Type Used as Comment

 

[RB]

Well I want to elaborate just a bit here before I give you the lastest of
what you asked for. I am thinking I should just delete my laptop network
connection and recreate it from the Wizard and try that. But I will wait
to hear back from you. My schedule has been some long hours lately so
it is taking me some time to gather this stuff and get back to you. But if
you lived near I would glady bring you a 12 pack of your favorite beer
for all your effort. I am somewhat disillusioned withWindows networking
at this point. But I guess this stuff gets complicated sometimes.

Ok I have followed you instructions and here are the following.
First disable firewalls (permantly) on both machines, then
rebooted and waited on them to finish loading. Then
(from Desktop)
net view RB.laptop
Gateway
Shared resources at RB.laptop
Share name Type Used as Comment
------------------------------------------
SHARED_FOLDER disk
The command completed successfully.
/* for some reason the brand name Gateway is all alone at top.
So then I go to Laptop */

(from Laptop)
net view Desktop
Shared resources at Desktop
Share name Type Used as Comment
------------------------------------------
Desktop1Shared Disk
HP-C-6180 Print HP Photosmart C6100 series
The command completed successfully.

/* Then I try */
\\Desktop\C$
(and something happens that has never happened before)
I actually get a "chance" to type in a password.
But there is a problem. I do type the password,
but then I see that OK button (of the pswd msg box)
is grayed out. So I try hittng enter, but nothing
happens and I am forced to close the msg box with
no actual connecting to Desktop.
But it is worth noting that I have tried the
\\Desktop\C$ before and did not even get the msg box,
so something is different on these boot ups.

/* So I go back to the Desktop and try the same */
net view RB.laptop
System error 53 has occurred /* is this one of the error 5... you were looking for? */
The network path was not found
/* Obviously this time it is different */
/* So then I try */
net view
Server name Remark
------------------------------------------
\\RB.laptop Gateway
\\Desktop
The command completed successfully
/* ? maybe you can make sense of this */

/* So now I go back to the laptop and I check
AdminstrativeTools->EventViewer->Applications,
here they are with errors, warnings and information filled in.
The last (first in list but last in time) information items look rather
ominous, I'm thinking oh hell what is this.

(took date out to save space which was 03-08-2010)
Type Time Source Category Event User Computer
Information 8:59:01am EAPOL None 2002 N/A RB-LAPTOP
The description for Event ID ( 2002 ) in Source ( EAPOL ) cannot be found. The local
computer may not have the necessary registry information or message DLL files to
display messages from a remote computer. You may be able to use the /AUXSOURCE= flag
to retrieve this description; see Help and Support for details. The following
information is part of the event: The event log file is corrupt..

Information 8:59:01am EAPOL None 2003 N/A RB-LAPTOP
The description for Event ID ( 2003 ) in Source ( EAPOL ) cannot be found. The
local computer may not have the necessary registry information or message DLL
files to display messages from a remote computer. You may be able to use the
/AUXSOURCE= flag to retrieve this description; see Help and Support for details.
The following information is part of the event: The event log file is corrupt..

Warning 8:58:57am EvntAgnt None 1015 N/A RB-LAPTOP
TraceLevel parameter not located in registry; Default trace level used is 32.

Warning 8:58:57am EvntAgnt None 1003 N/A RB-LAPTOP
TraceFileName parameter not located in registry; Default trace file used is .

Information 8:58:57am SecurityCenter None 1800 N/A RB-LAPTOP
The Windows Security Center Service has started

Information 8:58:56am Intuit Update Service None 0 N/A RB-LAPTOP
Service started successfully.

Warning 8:48:12am Userenv None 1517 SYSTEM RB-LAPTOP
Windows saved user RB-LAPTOP\Owner.RB registry while an application or service
was still using the registry during log off. The memory used by the user's registry
has not been freed. The registry will be unloaded when it is no longer in use.
This is often caused by services running as a user account, try configuring the services
to run in either the LocalService or NetworkService account.

Error 8:47:12am Application Error None 1000 N/A RB-LAPTOP
Faulting application msimn.exe, version 6.0.2900.5512, faulting module ntdll.dll,
version 5.1.2600.5755, fault address 0x00010a19.
============================================================
And now the Desktop events->applications
Desktop event viewer ->applications
Type, Time, Source, Category, Event, User, Computer
Information, 8:58:49am, Windows Search Service, Gatherer, 3044, N/A, Desktop
Information, 8:58:38am, Windows Search Service, Search service ,1003, N/A, Desktop
Information, 8:58:35am, ESENT, General , 102, N/A, Desktop
Information, 8:58:35am, ESENT, General , 100, N/A, Desktop
Information, 8:58:35am, SecurityCenter, None, 1800, N/A, Desktop
Warning, 8:54:26am, Userenv, None, 1524, RB, Desktop
Windows cannot unload your classes registry file - it is still in use by other
applications or services. The file will be unloaded when it is no longer in use.

Information, 8:53:02am, MSDTC, Disk , 2444, N/A, Desktop

 

[John John - MVP]

Things are not consistent. Based on previous commands in the other
posts the name of the laptop is supposed to be RB-Laptop (note the
*hyphen* - ) Now I see a new name for the laptop, RB.laptop (a *dot*
instead of a *hyphen* ). You have to be precise with the commands
RB-laptop is not the same as RB.laptop and a system error 53 (The
network path was not found) is to be expected if the name of the
computer is not correct.

I don't think that the problem is on the laptop, I think it's on the
desktop and I still think that this is a permissions issue, as explained
in another post verify the permissions on the share and make sure that
"Everyone" has at least read rights on the share. You can also try
deleting and recreating the share or creating a new test share for your
test commands.

I know that there is a lot to digest but to get to the bottom of things
we need to run commands and get the results of the commands. Try this,
again on the laptop and from the Command prompt:

net use x: \\Desktop\DesktopShared


You should be prompted for a user name and then for the password (the
password will not appear on screen as you type it. Of course, you have
to supply the name and password of a valid account _on the desktop_ if
the command succeeds you will see the drive X in your Windows Explorer.

John