trojan inbedded in Microsoft update

[FIsc]

*** Forwarded to whom? Where is it?


*** So what makes you so confident that it is a trojan included
*** with a Microsoft update? It is far more likely that your
*** mysterious virus scanner has reported a false positive.

Someone asked it and received the information.

I already mentioned a few years ago your regular American
antivriusprograms found for instance at a given moment the latest type
of Klez virus.

Only 1 antivirus developer offered a solution to remove it, this
wasn't Norton nor any other American antivirus software developer.

You cannot even find a discription for the type of trojan in these
anti virus programs as well. If you cannot find any reference to it,
would you say they even know what to look for?

 

[HeyBub]

This is the second time I received a warning from my anti virus
software telling me a trojan is present in a Microsoft update.
( Trojan-Dropper.Win32.Agent )

What is this company doing?

Dunno.

I'd have gotten rid of that POS virus-warning program the FIRST time it
flagged a Microsoft update as malware.

 

[Curt Christianson]

Why should we answer your question if you repeatedly refuse to answer ours?

*Who* did you forward the "trojan" information to--and "someone" isn't much
of an answer??

*What* anti-virus was so clever as to pick up said "trojan"? I doubt you'll
answer this, as no one else is likely to reproduce the same results.

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|
| >
| > > The information together with the detailed result screen of the scan
| > > in question was forwarded, as requested.
| >
| > *** Forwarded to whom? Where is it?
| >
| > > None of the regular anti virus softwareis even showing this type of
| > > trojan YET.
| >
| > *** So what makes you so confident that it is a trojan included
| > *** with a Microsoft update? It is far more likely that your
| > *** mysterious virus scanner has reported a false positive.
|
| Someone asked it and received the information.
|
| I already mentioned a few years ago your regular American
| antivriusprograms found for instance at a given moment the latest type
| of Klez virus.
|
| Only 1 antivirus developer offered a solution to remove it, this
| wasn't Norton nor any other American antivirus software developer.
|
| You cannot even find a discription for the type of trojan in these
| anti virus programs as well. If you cannot find any reference to it,
| would you say they even know what to look for?
|

 

[Curt Christianson]

LOL

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| FIsc wrote:
| > This is the second time I received a warning from my anti virus
| > software telling me a trojan is present in a Microsoft update.
| > ( Trojan-Dropper.Win32.Agent )
| >
| > What is this company doing?
|
| Dunno.
|
| I'd have gotten rid of that POS virus-warning program the FIRST time it
| flagged a Microsoft update as malware.
|
|

 

[Robert Moir]

Really? Can you document or cite any valid link or legitimate article that
shows that MS has ever knowingly or unknowingly had a virus, trojan or
malware embedded in an update made and released by them from their own
servers? I keenly await your citations and references....

Microsoft have released virus-infected downloads (not in updates IIRC) in
the past. The chance of them doing it these days is extremely low, no
arguements there. It is not, however, zero.

No software, no person, no process is perfect. Take a look at the AV
software that started the thread, unless it's the made-up ravings of a
deluded troll, chances are they're using software that is currently not
working 100% correctly despite how much they obviously trust it.

 

[mae]

Since you don't provide:
the information of which antivirus you use.
nor the full name of the virus it detected.
You must have an outdated antivirus or like this:
http://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/trojan-dropper_w32_agent_blk.shtml
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mae

| This is the second time I received a warning from my anti virus
| software telling me a trojan is present in a Microsoft update.
| ( Trojan-Dropper.Win32.Agent )
|
| What is this company doing?
|

 

[FIsc]

Microsoft have released virus-infected downloads (not in updates IIRC) in
the past. The chance of them doing it these days is extremely low, no
arguements there. It is not, however, zero.

No software, no person, no process is perfect. Take a look at the AV
software that started the thread, unless it's the made-up ravings of a
deluded troll, chances are they're using software that is currently not
working 100% correctly despite how much they obviously trust it.

As if all anti virus software is that reliable? Magic Lantern doesn't
ring any bells?

When anti virus software is especially excluding to look for specific
virus descriptions, can you even be 100% another company is
distributing software infested with an (own) "home made" part?

 

[Laughingstar~*]

DITTO!

Ariel

 

[PA Bear]

Then OP will hear nothing further from me about this FUD.

 

[NoConsequence]

Someone asked it and received the information.

Yea sure.

Someone making this post is an idiot...oh, wait, THAT'S YOU.

I already mentioned a few years ago your regular American
antivriusprograms found for instance at a given moment the latest type
of Klez virus.

Only 1 antivirus developer offered a solution to remove it, this
wasn't Norton nor any other American antivirus software developer.

You cannot even find a discription for the type of trojan in these
anti virus programs as well. If you cannot find any reference to it,
would you say they even know what to look for?

OK, if the AV is so fantastic why have you refused multiple times to
name it?

Not that I expect any real answers from you.

 

[HeyBub]

Since you don't provide:
the information of which antivirus you use.
nor the full name of the virus it detected.
You must have an outdated antivirus or like this:
http://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/trojan-dropper_w32_agent_blk.shtml

Good catch.

 

[FIsc]

Yea sure.

Someone making this post is an idiot...oh, wait, THAT'S YOU.




OK, if the AV is so fantastic why have you refused multiple times to
name it?

Not that I expect any real answers from you.

There is something to be learned from this thread. These self
proclaimed Microsoft consultants don't need full information to decide
on something.

Without seeing anything any problem is a non problem, especially when
it is related with the firm they are consultants for.

This tells a lot about the validity of their advices.

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

There is something to be learned from this thread. These self
proclaimed Microsoft consultants don't need full information to decide
on something.

*** Wrong. Everyobody has asked you for full information
*** in order to test the validity of your complaint. You
*** consistently refuse to supply this information. Why?

Without seeing anything any problem is a non problem, especially when
it is related with the firm they are consultants for.

*** Most if not all respondents in this thread are volunteers.
*** They do NOT work for Microsoft and receive no money
*** from Microsoft for their efforts.

This tells a lot about the validity of their advices.

*** Your persistent refusal to substantiate your claim tells
*** a lot about you. Put your money where your mouth is!

 

[Curt Christianson]

You must be off your medication again, as you are certainly suffering from
delusions.

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| > On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 13:44:59 -0700, FIsc <[email protected]>
| > wrote:
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > >> > The information together with the detailed result screen of the
scan
| > >> > in question was forwarded, as requested.
| >
| > >> *** Forwarded to whom? Where is it?
| >
| > >> > None of the regular anti virus softwareis even showing this type of
| > >> > trojan YET.
| >
| > >> *** So what makes you so confident that it is a trojan included
| > >> *** with a Microsoft update? It is far more likely that your
| > >> *** mysterious virus scanner has reported a false positive.
| >
| > >Someone asked it and received the information.
| >
| > Yea sure.
| >
| > Someone making this post is an idiot...oh, wait, THAT'S YOU.
| >
| > >I already mentioned a few years ago your regular American
| > >antivriusprograms found for instance at a given moment the latest type
| > >of Klez virus.
| >
| > >Only 1 antivirus developer offered a solution to remove it, this
| > >wasn't Norton nor any other American antivirus software developer.
| >
| > >You cannot even find a discription for the type of trojan in these
| > >anti virus programs as well. If you cannot find any reference to it,
| > >would you say they even know what to look for?
| >
| > OK, if the AV is so fantastic why have you refused multiple times to
| > name it?
| >
| > Not that I expect any real answers from you.
|
| There is something to be learned from this thread. These self
| proclaimed Microsoft consultants don't need full information to decide
| on something.
|
| Without seeing anything any problem is a non problem, especially when
| it is related with the firm they are consultants for.
|
| This tells a lot about the validity of their advices.
|

 

[FIsc]

You must be off your medication again, as you are certainly suffering from
delusions.

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| >
| >
| >
| >
| > >> > The information together with the detailed result screen of the
scan
| > >> > in question was forwarded, as requested.
| >
| > >> *** Forwarded to whom? Where is it?
| >
| > >> > None of the regular anti virus softwareis even showing this type of
| > >> > trojan YET.
| >
| > >> *** So what makes you so confident that it is a trojan included
| > >> *** with a Microsoft update? It is far more likely that your
| > >> *** mysterious virus scanner has reported a false positive.
| >
| > >Someone asked it and received the information.
| >
| > Yea sure.
| >
| > Someone making this post is an idiot...oh, wait, THAT'S YOU.
| >
| > >I already mentioned a few years ago your regular American
| > >antivriusprograms found for instance at a given moment the latest type
| > >of Klez virus.
| >
| > >Only 1 antivirus developer offered a solution to remove it, this
| > >wasn't Norton nor any other American antivirus software developer.
| >
| > >You cannot even find a discription for the type of trojan in these
| > >anti virus programs as well. If you cannot find any reference to it,
| > >would you say they even know what to look for?
| >
| > OK, if the AV is so fantastic why have you refused multiple times to
| > name it?
| >
| > Not that I expect any real answers from you.
|
| There is something to be learned from this thread. These self
| proclaimed Microsoft consultants don't need full information to decide
| on something.
|
| Without seeing anything any problem is a non problem, especially when
| it is related with the firm they are consultants for.
|
| This tells a lot about the validity of their advices.
|

Right, just continue killing the messenger, especially if you don't
like the message itself.

Your comments have been weighted.

One advice, continue your education because you are lacking some basic
ethics.

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

One advice, continue your education because you are lacking some basic
ethics.

Whereas in your case I recommend an intensive course in
spelling. On the other hand you get top honours in the
subject "Advanced Evasive Methods".

 

[FIsc]

Whereas in your case I recommend an intensive course in
spelling. On the other hand you get top honours in the
subject "Advanced Evasive Methods".

On continue en français? Of prefereer je Nederlands?

Let's see who is badly in need of some language courses?


I guess some sarcasm is in place:

Bush, the former UK prime Minister Blair and the European Union
President are walking on a beach when they discover a genie's lamp.
Bush rubs the lamp and the genie appears in a puff of blue smoke. She
announces to the trio that they will receive a total of three wishes,
one each, so they should consider their wishes wisely. However there
is one catch: the wishes should offer more advantages to the rest of
the world than towards their own regions.

Blair is first, and asks the genie to make his country fruitful, his
countrywomen beautiful and his traditions preserved. The genie grants
the wish.

Bush is second. "I'm sick and tired of my homeland enduring the risk
of being attacked. I would like an impenetrable wall built to protect
my beloved USA, one which no one can scale." The genie grants the
wish.

The European thinks for a moment, and asks the genie, "I'm curious
about this wall. How big is it?" The genie replies, "The wall around
the UQ is 300 feet high and 100 feet thick. It cannot be penetrated
from either side, or climbed, and all the American people are safe
inside." "Great," says the European. "Fill it with water."

 

[Bob I]

On continue en français? Of prefereer je Nederlands?

Let's see who is badly in need of some language courses?


I guess some sarcasm is in place:

Bush, the former UK prime Minister Blair and the European Union
President are walking on a beach when they discover a genie's lamp.
Bush rubs the lamp and the genie appears in a puff of blue smoke. She
announces to the trio that they will receive a total of three wishes,
one each, so they should consider their wishes wisely. However there
is one catch: the wishes should offer more advantages to the rest of
the world than towards their own regions.

Blair is first, and asks the genie to make his country fruitful, his
countrywomen beautiful and his traditions preserved. The genie grants
the wish.

Bush is second. "I'm sick and tired of my homeland enduring the risk
of being attacked. I would like an impenetrable wall built to protect
my beloved USA, one which no one can scale." The genie grants the
wish.

The European thinks for a moment, and asks the genie, "I'm curious
about this wall. How big is it?" The genie replies, "The wall around
the UQ is 300 feet high and 100 feet thick. It cannot be penetrated
from either side, or climbed, and all the American people are safe
inside." "Great," says the European. "Fill it with water."

And the genie promptly filled the larger volume with water as the small
one was no challenge.

 

[The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly]

Really? Can you document or cite any valid link or legitimate article that
shows that MS has ever knowingly or unknowingly had a virus, trojan or
malware embedded in an update made and released by them from their own
servers? I keenly await your citations and references....

Microsoft Inadvertently Shares Nimda Worm
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,101930-page,1/article.html

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[The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly]

Dunno.

I'd have gotten rid of that POS virus-warning program the FIRST time it
flagged a Microsoft update as malware.

MS updates is malware that automatically updates itself without the
user's consent whether they have AU turned on or off.

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creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer
rights in the digital age are not frivolous."
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