Transition Maker 2

[PapaJohn \(MVP\)]

The www.papajohn.org website has a new link to a new Transition Maker 2 utility, and two new pages in the Editing > Video section of the site... providing info about the utility and a full online tutorial for using it.

The utility is a joint venture between Patrick the programmer and myself.... use it to make your own personal custom transitions. We've been working on it for months and it is now available for downloading....


PapaJohn

 

[John Kelly]

The www.papajohn.org website has a new link to a new Transition Maker 2
utility, and two new pages in the Editing > Video section of the site...
providing info about the utility and a full online tutorial for using it.

The utility is a joint venture between Patrick the programmer and
myself.... use it to make your own personal custom transitions. We've been
working on it for months and it is now available for downloading....


PapaJohn
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Ho Hum !!! Still not fixed your News program I see.

Hey, I did not know that MVP's are flown to Microsoft meetings at Microsoft
HQ for free....Good Grief, no wonder the stuff is so expensive. We would
have to declare that on our Tax returns here.
--
Best Wishes.....John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org
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And if it should come to pass that our dreams come true, what then of our
nightmares?

 

[John Kelly]

Hello Again,

Did you know that the various versions of MovieDV and MovieXone come with a
transition creator. Its also a free download from there web site. You can
create some very crazy transitions using Masks. It is of course a well know
procedure. You can take an ordinary photo, convert it into black and white
(True Black & White or Graduated) and use that as the basis for a
transition. You can get some really odd transitions as well as some
super-smooth stuff

I thought I would mention this as you once said you had MovieXone in your
toolbox.

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Best Wishes.....John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org
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And if it should come to pass that our dreams come true, what then of our
nightmares?

 

[Alan]

Ho Hum !!! Still not fixed your News program I see.

Well, at least he doesn't use it to spam all Microsoft groups with incorrect
information (for the final time, MM2 *IS A NON-LINEAR EDITOR*, and I feel
you owe PJ an apology for rubbishing him when he was, in fact, correct).

Hey, I did not know that MVP's are flown to Microsoft meetings at Microsoft
HQ for free....

Why not? They give their time for free. An internal flight in the US is
peanuts to Microsoft.

Good Grief, no wonder the stuff is so expensive. We would
have to declare that on our Tax returns here.

Er....I live "here", and trust me, I know a little bit about tax, you would
NOT have to declare any such thing.
It wouldn't count under the "benefits in kind" section as he is not an MS
employee, agent, or contractor.
And what do John's news program and freebies from MS have to do with
Moviemaking?
You were doing alright for a couple of days, there, but I see you've had a
bit of a regression. Back on the couch....

 

[John Eddy [MSFT]]

Why not? They give their time for free. An internal flight in the US is
peanuts to Microsoft.

Actually, most MVPs are not flown to Microsoft meetings at Microsoft's HQ
for free (I can only say most because I believe some of the product groups
in the past, and possibly some in the future, do help with expenses.) I've
been the MVP Lead for quite a few different products (Windows, Tablet PC,
IE/OE, Exchange, Outlook) and it is rare that MVPs travel expenses are
covered. Believe me, I've gotten more than my fair share of complaints
about it.

John Eddy
Microsoft Newsgroups Administrator (and former MVP Lead)

 

[John Kelly]

I Just KNEW IT.. Reeling in the hook right now
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

WHAT A PLONKER...you could not resist having your little go.......and its a
LINEAR editor at least one MVP laughed when he heard the story...and he is a
programmer I believe...so I expect he knows what he is talking about.

I know you live "HERE" very near Leeds...I must get out the full electoral
role and have a look.....

And the bit about the useless MVP's (Not my words) is the subject of
discussion in another news group. There appears to be a lot of
problems...and other MVP's are complaining....I would tell you which
newsgroup...but I am not going to...and I know you will not be able to find
it...your own skills in this area having been demonstrated on at least two
prior occasions.

Now go away (I've been on the Internet for 10yrs) and brush up on your
search technique. I think we have all had enough of your "flaming"
technique...yes the pun was intended Mr. Tax Man (Sorry that came from
Liverpool) Gosh!

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Have a REAL Nice Day Now.....John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org
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And if it should come to pass that our dreams come true, what then of our
nightmares?

 

[John Kelly]

Rats...I knew there was something else....

Tell me, what is ONETELL like? is it good for you too?



NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.78.161.226
inetnum: 213.78.0.0 - 213.78.255.255
netname: UK-ONETEL-20000330

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Best Wishes.....John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org
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And if it should come to pass that our dreams come true, what then of our
nightmares?

 

[John Kelly]

Hi there,

Well I guess the two MVP's discussing this are wrong then. Hint to someone
else...Its a man and woman and I gather the man has been an MVP for a very
long time. He advocates dismissing all but a few (i forget how many...10 -
15 perhaps) who are actual professionals in the area they help out on.

As you were involved in Outlook Express, please tell Papajohn how to work
his so that we do not keep getting messages generated in a HTML
environment. It really is bad form as you will in your current position
know. I have explained to him how easy it is to send innocent code that
when read in a badly set up environment (Outlook express default settings)
can cause havoc, let alone letting slip the dogs of war (Shakespeare)

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Best Wishes.....John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org
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And if it should come to pass that our dreams come true, what then of our
nightmares?

 

[Alan Parker]

Rats...I knew there was something else....

Tell me, what is ONETELL like? is it good for you too?

Um.....it's fine, as far as dialup goes I suppose. I don't really use it
that much.
I'm not sure whether this is really on-topic, John, and I'm not sure how it
can be "good for me", but hey, whatever gets you Small Heath-ens going....

 

[Alan Parker]

Why not? They give their time for free. An internal flight in the US is
peanuts to Microsoft.

Actually, most MVPs are not flown to Microsoft meetings at Microsoft's HQ
for free [] and it is rare that MVPs travel expenses are
covered. Believe me, I've gotten more than my fair share of complaints
about it.

Well, then we should give them even more respec' then! Are they mad?!?

Oh, just clear one thing up for us while your here: Windows MM2 is a
non-linear editor, right?
It's got an editable time-line and storyboard, real-time effects,
Collections (which I suppose you could compare to Avid's "bins") and
everything else that fits the bill of an NLE. And to be honest, I'm really
not bothered who calls it what, but to help cease the incessant whining and
allow this group to get back on-track, can we have it from someone official,
please?

 

[PapaJohn \(MVP\)]

The first to report his experience with the software is an experienced user of MM2. He says in part "...It's powerful, but it also has a very steep learning curve even for me, I think the average MM2 user may find it overwhelming...."

I highly recommend that, after downloading the package, that you go completely through the exercises in the online tutorial.... the one accessed from my website via Editing > Video > TM2 Tutorial.

The extra transitions from the Microsoft fun pack, and the Pixelan packages, are easy to install and use. Digging into the code to make your own tweaks of embedded MM2 transition features is for the highly skilled geek.... Using this new utility is for those half-way between the two, but comes with a lot more hand-holding via the online tutorial.

PapaJohn

The www.papajohn.org website has a new link to a new Transition Maker 2 utility, and two new pages in the Editing > Video section of the site... providing info about the utility and a full online tutorial for using it.

The utility is a joint venture between Patrick the programmer and myself.... use it to make your own personal custom transitions. We've been working on it for months and it is now available for downloading....


PapaJohn

 

[John Eddy [MSFT]]

Oh, just clear one thing up for us while your here: Windows MM2 is a
non-linear editor, right?
It's got an editable time-line and storyboard, real-time effects,
Collections (which I suppose you could compare to Avid's "bins") and
everything else that fits the bill of an NLE. And to be honest, I'm really
not bothered who calls it what, but to help cease the incessant whining
and
allow this group to get back on-track, can we have it from someone
official,
please?

Errmm, well, I wouldn't have a clue about Movie Maker 2 being linear or
non-linear. Sorry. I did a little reasearch...

http://www.digitalvideoediting.com/2004/02_feb/editorials/cw_editorial96.htm
says "That's getting more evident here at Digital Media Net, where the most
frequent question we get here at Digital Video Editing is, "What kind of
nonlinear editing system should I buy?" " and then goes on to mention Movie
Maker 2.

I don't know if I'd call that 'official.' But, to be honest, its not my
part of the business. I've been an MVP Lead, but never with the Movie Maker
business. I'm now the Newsgroups Administrator so USENET/NNTP is my forte
now.

John Eddy
Microsoft Newsgroups Administrator

 

[WHY]

For someone so helpful, you seem to be equally annoying
lately.

It's non-linear. Digital video editing is non-linear,
hence the acronym 'NLE'. It's not 'linear' because it has
a time line; it's non-linear because it has a time line!

LOL!!!

Back in the days of linear editing, shooting onto VHS
tape, if you shot scenes out of order or on different
tapes when it came time to edit them together, you would
have to use 2 decks; one to play the shots back, the
other as the master, or edit tape. During the editing
process, you had to cue the tapes to the proper spot and
record them onto the master in the order you wanted them,
fast forwarding, rewinding, and swapping tapes as
necessary, in a linear fashion, hence the term 'linear
editing.'

I guess what really makes people LOL is when some people
trip over themselves trying to make other look foolish.

Scolding PapaJohn about his new reader, touting your
expertise about the use of news readers,
then 'accidentally' posting a message to every MS group.
LOL. What's up with that.

Also, telling people that it's possible to put malicious
code in html, telling them you know how and then inviting
them to your site by putting you home page address in
your posts.Hmmm. Took your site out of my favorites after
reading that.

Whining about some MVPs being MVPs. So childish. Based on
your posts, IMHO, you should probably be one, but trying
to make someone else look bad doesn't make you look any
better and probably hurts your chances.

Oh yeah, that's right! When complaining, I change my
handle. So, big deal, you know it I'm JEM by the IP. Big
deal. I change my handle because someone who might want
to read one of my posts would probably get sick of
reading this kind of stuff; something to consider
yourself when you want to rant. Otherwise, readers will
start skipping your posts.

 

[WHY]

For someone so helpful, you seem to be equally annoying
lately.

It's non-linear. Digital video editing is non-linear,
hence the acronym 'NLE'. It's not 'linear' because it has
a time line; it's non-linear because it has a time line!

Back in the days of linear editing, shooting onto VHS
tape, if you shot scenes out of order or on different
tapes when it came time to edit them together, you would
have to use 2 decks; one to play the shots back, the
other as the master, or edit tape. During the editing
process, you had to cue the tapes to the proper spot and
record them onto the master in the order you wanted them,
fast forwarding, rewinding, and swapping tapes as
necessary, in a linear fashion, hence the term 'linear
editing.'

I guess what really makes people LOL is when some people
trip over themselves trying to make other look foolish.

Scolding PapaJohn about his new reader, touting your
expertise about the use of news readers,
then 'accidentally' posting a message to every MS group.
LOL. What's up with that.

Also, telling people that it's possible to put malicious
code in html, telling them you know how and then inviting
them to your site by putting you home page address in
your posts.Hmmm. Took your site out of my favorites after
reading that.

Whining about some MVPs being MVPs. So childish. Based on
your posts, IMHO, you should probably be one, but trying
to make someone else look bad doesn't make you look any
better and probably hurts your chances.

Oh yeah, that's right! When complaining, I change my
handle. So, big deal, you know it I'm JEM by the IP. Big
deal. I change my handle because someone who might want
to read one of my posts would probably get sick of
reading this kind of stuff; something to consider
yourself when you want to rant. Otherwise, readers will
start skipping your posts.

 

[John Kelly]

Oh my God....there's a collection...it must be non-linear...for god sakes
man...give them more respect, What For ???

You are so "NOT BOTHERED" that you mention the phrase almost every time.
Have you ever bothered to look for Papajohn referring to it as that in any
message before his little collaboration sorry statement....NO...would you
like to see how many times he calls it Non-Linear...go on have a guess. You
really are very silly, the pair of you. (I wonder what you will do next?)

Linear means a POINT in space...this point is used by some function f(x) =
ax, such that the point moves in a line within the 3D space it occupies. The
result is a Linear Path. On this path you can move backwards and
forwards...its got nothing to do with whether there is a collection or not
(You really are clutching at straws now...collections LOL) Now a program
like MovieDV ***IS*** NON-LINEAR...why, easy there is more than one Path
that the point can follow....In fact there are so many paths it can get
confusing...PATH = Time Line. and not only are there separate paths...you
can change the rate of time flow in each path and vary it as real time flows
by....that also makes it ****NON-LINEAR**** I look forward to your
explanation on how the path (Time Line) is NON-LINEAR in Movie Maker 2....oh
yes I forgot...you said you are not bothered....LOLOLOLOL

Have a GREAT DAY in Leeds Mr. Tax Man...I suppose you are going to boast how
you know the Chancellor of the Exchequer next!!

Bye...........

Hey, I did not know that MVP's are flown to Microsoft meetings at
Microsoft
HQ for free....

Why not? They give their time for free. An internal flight in the US is
peanuts to Microsoft.

Actually, most MVPs are not flown to Microsoft meetings at Microsoft's HQ
for free [] and it is rare that MVPs travel expenses are
covered. Believe me, I've gotten more than my fair share of complaints
about it.

Well, then we should give them even more respec' then! Are they mad?!?

Oh, just clear one thing up for us while your here: Windows MM2 is a
non-linear editor, right?
It's got an editable time-line and storyboard, real-time effects,
Collections (which I suppose you could compare to Avid's "bins") and
everything else that fits the bill of an NLE. And to be honest, I'm really
not bothered who calls it what, but to help cease the incessant whining and
allow this group to get back on-track, can we have it from someone official,
please?

 

[John Kelly]

Hello Mr Eddy,

Errmm, well, I wouldn't have a clue about Movie Maker 2 being linear or
non-linear. Sorry. I did a little reasearch...

http://www.digitalvideoediting.com/2004/02_feb/editorials/cw_editorial96.htm
says "That's getting more evident here at Digital Media Net, where the most
frequent question we get here at Digital Video Editing is, "What kind of
nonlinear editing system should I buy?" " and then goes on to mention Movie
Maker 2.

Mr. Eddy. You are quoting out of context.....did you read the whole
page. For goodness sake, I have already told you privately that I rather
expexted more from you, because of you position. Taking phrases from a
document and quoting them out of context is just too much...what you do not
say, but the document does, is that there are too many choices, that there
are many different types of packages etc. The author then goes on to say
that certain packages are suited to particular uses. He does not say that
any of them are NON-LINEAR

The authors EXACT remarks were.........

Just want to do cuts and a few dissolves?
Use iMovie or Windows MovieMaker, included with the operating system


****A few cuts and dissolves**** How does that make it a NON-LINEAR
editing system?? If you are going to quote and publish a reference, you
realy must make sure that you at least read it.

I don't know if I'd call that 'official.' But, to be honest, its not my
part of the business. I've been an MVP Lead, but never with the Movie Maker
business. I'm now the Newsgroups Administrator so USENET/NNTP is my forte
now.

What can I say...I think my comments above more than adequately cover
things.

Wondering what will come next.....John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org

 

[John Kelly]

You are way of topic.....fool...FU's set to.....let me see now
alt.stupid.idiots should do.....Bye Bye

For someone so helpful, you seem to be equally annoying
lately.

It's non-linear. Digital video editing is non-linear,
hence the acronym 'NLE'. It's not 'linear' because it has
a time line; it's non-linear because it has a time line!

LOL!!!

Back in the days of linear editing, shooting onto VHS
tape, if you shot scenes out of order or on different
tapes when it came time to edit them together, you would
have to use 2 decks; one to play the shots back, the
other as the master, or edit tape. During the editing
process, you had to cue the tapes to the proper spot and
record them onto the master in the order you wanted them,
fast forwarding, rewinding, and swapping tapes as
necessary, in a linear fashion, hence the term 'linear
editing.'

I guess what really makes people LOL is when some people
trip over themselves trying to make other look foolish.

Scolding PapaJohn about his new reader, touting your
expertise about the use of news readers,
then 'accidentally' posting a message to every MS group.
LOL. What's up with that.

Also, telling people that it's possible to put malicious
code in html, telling them you know how and then inviting
them to your site by putting you home page address in
your posts.Hmmm. Took your site out of my favorites after
reading that.

Whining about some MVPs being MVPs. So childish. Based on
your posts, IMHO, you should probably be one, but trying
to make someone else look bad doesn't make you look any
better and probably hurts your chances.

Oh yeah, that's right! When complaining, I change my
handle. So, big deal, you know it I'm JEM by the IP. Big
deal. I change my handle because someone who might want
to read one of my posts would probably get sick of
reading this kind of stuff; something to consider
yourself when you want to rant. Otherwise, readers will
start skipping your posts.

 

[John Kelly]

Obviously Mr. John Eddy has not yet advised you on posting messages from
within your badly set up News Reader....Mr. Eddy, your new position requires
that you do something about this. When will it occur.

Best Wishes.....John Kelly
The first to report his experience with the software is an experienced user
of MM2. He says in part "...It's powerful, but it also has a very steep
learning curve even for me, I think the average MM2 user may find it
overwhelming...."

I highly recommend that, after downloading the package, that you go
completely through the exercises in the online tutorial.... the one accessed
from my website via Editing > Video > TM2 Tutorial.

The extra transitions from the Microsoft fun pack, and the Pixelan packages,
are easy to install and use. Digging into the code to make your own tweaks
of embedded MM2 transition features is for the highly skilled geek.... Using
this new utility is for those half-way between the two, but comes with a lot
more hand-holding via the online tutorial.

PapaJohn

The www.papajohn.org website has a new link to a new Transition Maker 2
utility, and two new pages in the Editing > Video section of the site...
providing info about the utility and a full online tutorial for using it.

The utility is a joint venture between Patrick the programmer and
myself.... use it to make your own personal custom transitions. We've been
working on it for months and it is now available for downloading....


PapaJohn

 

[Guest]

talk about off topic.... how about
alt.jealous.cry.baby.com

 

[Guest]

WHY, you are a boring idiot with your long winded pointless messages...why don't you leave this board...the strain on you is obviously more than you can handle. I expect John Kelly has added you to his ignore list by now so he probaly wont hear your equally boring reply to this. I say a little cage rattling is a very good thing...more power to John kelly is what I say

I am Very Relaxed in Nic

----- WHY wrote: ----

For someone so helpful, you seem to be equally annoying
lately

It's non-linear. Digital video editing is non-linear,
hence the acronym 'NLE'. It's not 'linear' because it has
a time line; it's non-linear because it has a time line

Back in the days of linear editing, shooting onto VHS
tape, if you shot scenes out of order or on different
tapes when it came time to edit them together, you would
have to use 2 decks; one to play the shots back, the
other as the master, or edit tape. During the editing
process, you had to cue the tapes to the proper spot and
record them onto the master in the order you wanted them,
fast forwarding, rewinding, and swapping tapes as
necessary, in a linear fashion, hence the term 'linear
editing.

I guess what really makes people LOL is when some people
trip over themselves trying to make other look foolish

Scolding PapaJohn about his new reader, touting your
expertise about the use of news readers,
then 'accidentally' posting a message to every MS group.
LOL. What's up with that

Also, telling people that it's possible to put malicious
code in html, telling them you know how and then inviting
them to your site by putting you home page address in
your posts.Hmmm. Took your site out of my favorites after
reading that

Whining about some MVPs being MVPs. So childish. Based on
your posts, IMHO, you should probably be one, but trying
to make someone else look bad doesn't make you look any
better and probably hurts your chances.

Oh yeah, that's right! When complaining, I change my
handle. So, big deal, you know it I'm JEM by the IP. Big
deal. I change my handle because someone who might want
to read one of my posts would probably get sick of
reading this kind of stuff; something to consider
yourself when you want to rant. Otherwise, readers will
start skipping your posts