Transferring Vista License

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\(\( carmen \)\)

I have a single license for Vista Ultimate. Through my business, I usually
have a new pc for personal use on a 2 month lease basis.

I'm wondering, if I install my Vista on a pc and activate it, then continue
to move it from pc to pc as I receive new workstations, always uninstalling
from the former pc, would there be any issue?

Note that each of these workstations I receive only have the hardware, no
OS...so that's why I was wondering about issues of transferring my license.

Thank you
 
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Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]

Too much of a hassle, you would end up having to reactivate on a regular
basis, not to mention you might be denied when you call to get the software
reactivated.
 
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norm

Andre said:
Too much of a hassle, you would end up having to reactivate on a regular
basis, not to mention you might be denied when you call to get the software
reactivated.
Why would it be an issue if a valid license is used in the manner the
eula permits? Why would activation be denied? Is there an activation limit?
 
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Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]

because of the continous need to activate everytime he needs to transfer the
license which sounds like on a regular basis. I am not saying he is guilty
of anything, but you have to understand why Activation was implemented in
the first place - to prevent casual copying.
 
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norm

Andre said:
because of the continous need to activate everytime he needs to transfer the
license which sounds like on a regular basis. I am not saying he is guilty
of anything, but you have to understand why Activation was implemented in
the first place - to prevent casual copying.
If the op is in possession of a valid license and using it in compliance
with the eula, why would the issue even be raised that activation COULD
be denied. There is no reason for denial of activation given a valid
license and compliance with the eula, regardless if one wishes to
reinstall every day. There is no casual copying involved in this scenario.
 
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\(\( carmen \)\)

There's definately no casual copying, everything is legitimate and above
board, it's just sometimes the most honest answers can sound so sucpious,
especially when Microsoft always has an eye out for piracy.
 
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SG

Carmen,

If it were I and just so I wouldn't run into trouble down the road, I would
give MS a call and explain your situation. You can install/activate Vista on
the "same" machine all you want, but by what you describe I do believe after
a few new systems it may raise a red flag with MS.
If you are located in the United States or in Canada, you can call (888)
571-2048 to reach the Microsoft Clearinghouse. BTW, if you do call please
post back and let us know what they told you.
 
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norm

SG said:
Carmen,

If it were I and just so I wouldn't run into trouble down the road, I
would give MS a call and explain your situation. You can
install/activate Vista on the "same" machine all you want, but by what
you describe I do believe after a few new systems it may raise a red
flag with MS.
If you are located in the United States or in Canada, you can call (888)
571-2048 to reach the Microsoft Clearinghouse. BTW, if you do call
please post back and let us know what they told you.
It looks to be that the ms clearinghouse doesn't deal with retail
activation issues:
http://technet2.microsoft.com/windo...a9c9-44d7-b266-75458846e4ef1033.mspx?mfr=true
The Microsoft Clearinghouse is the facility that Microsoft maintains to
activate license servers, issue CALs to license servers, recover CALs,
and reactivate license servers. It is not the facility for purchasing CALs.
I might be wrong, but I would be surprised if there is a method
available for a retail customer to alert ms to the fact that there will
be regular and many activation requests for a certain retail license,
and that ms should give such requests special attention.
 
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The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly

(( carmen )) said:
I have a single license for Vista Ultimate. Through my business, I usually
have a new pc for personal use on a 2 month lease basis.

I'm wondering, if I install my Vista on a pc and activate it, then continue
to move it from pc to pc as I receive new workstations, always uninstalling
from the former pc, would there be any issue?

Note that each of these workstations I receive only have the hardware, no
OS...so that's why I was wondering about issues of transferring my license.

Thank you

I have a couple recommendations for that situation:

- Purchase and use Acronis imaging software to move Vista
- They will get suspicious if you call to reactivate vista that often.
When you call for activation, being an educated consumer is beneficial.
Quoted from the MS website:

http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/activation_facts.mspx

"Mandatory Product Activation Data

* The Installation ID is unique to each product and comprises two
components:

1. Product ID. Unique to the product key used during installation
2. Hardware hash. Non-unique representation of the PC

* The country in which the product is being installed (for Office
XP and Office XP family products only)"

You are never required to provide any other info in order to get
activated. The agent is required to activate you immediately if you
phone in and provide only the product ID, hardware hash, and
occasionally the country in which the product(s) is being installed! It
is none of their business if you made hardware changes, why you are
reinstalling, etc and you do not need to answer questions like that. If
they give you a hard time, politely remind them of this policy posted on
their company's website. If still they persist, request politely to
speak to a supervisor and escalate the issue until they give YOU the
paying customer the treatment you deserve!

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norm said:
Why would it be an issue if a valid license is used in the manner the
eula permits? Why would activation be denied? Is there an activation limit?

Good question norm, because there is supposed to be no limits on how
many times you can reinstall vista retail as long as complying with the
EULA.

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Ken Blake, MVP

I have a single license for Vista Ultimate.


Is it a retail license or an OEM license?

Through my business, I usually
have a new pc for personal use on a 2 month lease basis.

I'm wondering, if I install my Vista on a pc and activate it, then continue
to move it from pc to pc as I receive new workstations, always uninstalling
from the former pc, would there be any issue?


If it's a retail license, no, no issues. You may move it from computer
to computer as often as you want, as long as it's on only one computer
at a time.

But if it's an OEM license, the EULA ties it permanently to the first
computer it's installed on, and you may not do this.

With a retail license, the only possible issue is that Microsoft may
get suspicious if you do this several times, but you are entirely
within your rights, and they should accept what you tell them when you
explain the circumstances.
 
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\(\( carmen \)\)

It is a retail license

Ken Blake said:
Is it a retail license or an OEM license?




If it's a retail license, no, no issues. You may move it from computer
to computer as often as you want, as long as it's on only one computer
at a time.

But if it's an OEM license, the EULA ties it permanently to the first
computer it's installed on, and you may not do this.

With a retail license, the only possible issue is that Microsoft may
get suspicious if you do this several times, but you are entirely
within your rights, and they should accept what you tell them when you
explain the circumstances.
 
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\(\( carmen \)\)

Thank you for the information. I'm not 100% sure on this, but with Acronis,
although it would speed up installs, it would still require activation as
the hardware is different wouldn't it?

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(( carmen )) said:
Thank you for the information. I'm not 100% sure on this, but with Acronis,
although it would speed up installs, it would still require activation as
the hardware is different wouldn't it?

Yes Carmen, it would still require activation, but it would make
transferring everything else easier.
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DarkSentinel

(( carmen )) said:
It is a retail license

There should be no issues. The EULA put most simplistically states it's for
use on your computer. As long as it's retail, it doesn't matter WHAT
computer it is. With my Acer, THAT license is tied to THAT machine. My home
built and retail version is another story. When I decide to get a new mobo,
it is STILL my computer. As long as I don't try to run that key on my fiancé’s
machine AND mine say, there is no problem. That a little clearer?
 

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