Top Posting

R

Robyn

Ok, I'll ask again and maybe get a polite reply instead of Rifleman's
useless LOL?

What is top posting?
Yes I'm serious and yes I've read about newsgroup ettiquette.

Robyn
 
S

Steve C. Ray

Top posting is like I am doing, when the reply to a post is placed at the
top. Now scroll down to the bottom.

--
Steve C. Ray

Robyn said:
Ok, I'll ask again and maybe get a polite reply instead of Rifleman's
useless LOL?

What is top posting?
Yes I'm serious and yes I've read about newsgroup ettiquette.

Robyn
This is bottom posting, Robyn. There are merits to both methods. Use
whichever you want.
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Greetings --

"Top-posting" is placing the reply to an earlier post at the top,
as I've done. This is the default behavior of some news readers, such
as Outlook Express. Some people prefer top-posting, while others
prefer bottom-posting (as the term implies, placing replies _below_
the original message.)

While I think the issue is largely a matter of personal taste and
reading convenience, some people get quite fanatical about it,
claiming years of precedence for bottom-posting as the only "proper"
way to do it. It all reminds me of Jonathan Swift's "Gulliver's
Travels," and the wars between the Big-Endians and the Small-Endians
(iow, which end of a boiled egg should be broken first).

Bruce Chambers

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You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. -- RAH
 
B

Bubba

I like the egg analogy. The answer is obvious however.."the other end" of
course!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
J

JAX

Top posting is the default way in OE. I think it is the way it should be
done. I am "smart enough" to remember what the original post was. I have
blisters on my middle finger from scrolling down to see what the reply is
from those who bottom post. Sometimes, there is a 3Kb response that only has
only 3 words to say. Why go through all the dribble leading up to those 3
words. I top post out of consideration to others who care to read the
response, not re-read all the other thread in it's entirety.

JAX
 
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Rifleman

JAX said:
Top posting is the default way in OE. I think it is the way it should be
done. I am "smart enough" to remember what the original post was.

Well I've just downloaded this mornings new messages - *563*. Presumably you
can remember EACH one of those?

Sheeesh!
 
R

Rifleman

Robyn said:
Ok, I'll ask again and maybe get a polite reply instead of Rifleman's
useless LOL?

What is top posting?
Yes I'm serious and yes I've read about newsgroup ettiquette.

Robyn

I think you'll find I was replying to another poster, not you.
 
C

Cerridwen

JAX said:
Top posting is the default way in OE. I think it is the way it should
be done. I am "smart enough" to remember what the original post was.
I have blisters on my middle finger from scrolling down to see what
the reply is from those who bottom post. Sometimes, there is a 3Kb
response that only has only 3 words to say. Why go through all the
dribble leading up to those 3 words. I top post out of consideration
to others who care to read the response, not re-read all the other
thread in it's entirety.

JAX

So you're completely incapable of snipping all but the salient message?!
 
C

Cerridwen

JAX said:
Top posting is the default way in OE. I think it is the way it should
be done. I am "smart enough" to remember what the original post was.
I have blisters on my middle finger from scrolling down to see what
the reply is from those who bottom post. Sometimes, there is a 3Kb
response that only has only 3 words to say. Why go through all the
dribble leading up to those 3 words. I top post out of consideration
to others who care to read the response, not re-read all the other
thread in it's entirety.

JAX


To paraphrase Mr Spock "Top posting is illogical, Captain". Who answeres a
question /before/ it's asked?! Or, to put it another way; imagine a PC
magazine Q&A section - they don't print the questions before the answers -
there'd be an outcry if they did!

People who top-post are too lazy to snip, IMNSHO. And to say it's out of
"consideration" is complete bollocks, and you know it. People have to scroll
down to see what the original question was!

You're just too damned lazy to snip, admit it.
 
M

mrtee

In line.
__________in response to__________
|
| To paraphrase Mr Spock "Top posting is illogical, Captain". Who answeres a
| question /before/ it's asked?! Or, to put it another way; imagine a PC
| magazine Q&A section - they don't print the questions before the answers -
| there'd be an outcry if they did!

»Ahh, but they DO print the question before the answer. What they don't do is reprint the question and the answer before another answer to the same question - wastes paper and ink.

| People who top-post are too lazy to snip, IMNSHO. And to say it's out of
| "consideration" is complete bollocks, and you know it. People have to scroll
| down to see what the original question was!

»Only if you have "hide read messages" (like Rifleman)toggled on. If you have "show all messages" toggled on you can refer back to the question or answer.

| You're just too damned lazy to snip, admit it.

»I prefer top posting and do snip.
 
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Rifleman

In line.

»Only if you have "hide read messages" (like Rifleman)toggled on. If you
have "show all messages" toggled on you can refer back to the question or
answer.


This group has well over *1,000* posts a day. Are you saying you keep ALL
these visible in your newsreader? You must be nuts.
 
C

Cerridwen

mrtee said:
In line.
__________in response to__________


»Ahh, but they DO print the question before the answer. What they
don't do is reprint the question and the answer before another answer
to the same question - wastes paper and ink.


»Only if you have "hide read messages" (like Rifleman)toggled on. If
you have "show all messages" toggled on you can refer back to the
question or answer.


»I prefer top posting and do snip.

Is there an embarrassed smiley - I realised I'd goofed when I sent! <VRF>
 
C

Cerridwen

Rifleman said:
In line.

»Only if you have "hide read messages" (like Rifleman)toggled on. If
you have "show all messages" toggled on you can refer back to the
question or answer.


This group has well over *1,000* posts a day. Are you saying you keep
ALL these visible in your newsreader? You must be nuts.

They're Yanks...need I say more...? <eg>
 
B

Bubba

No dumbbell....can you? BTW are you following all 563? Of course not !!
Ever hear of a "Watch / Ignore filter"?

Your "example" is typical ....a shoot-from-the-hip response which truly
shows the utter futility of this whole thing.

Top posting is "The New Old Fashioned Way"

"We're here, we're queer. here's my rear, get used to it" !!!!!!
 
B

Bubba

Why should anyone have to manicure anything? Just type your reply and move
on butthead....
 
J

JAX

I would have already read the OP. I am capable of maintaining continuity of
thought long enough to post my reply.

JAX
 
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Rich/rerat

Many of us also have our newsreader set to "Group Messages as Conversations". So there is somewhat of an order for messages in a thread. Which makes reading messages that were made using "bottom posting" take up more time than it should.

Many people in this thread have mentioned that people can Edit the news messages, delete the old text from the original message and subsequent replies, and keep the thread "Lean & Mean". The problem for is that many don't. I have seen the size of a MS News Message in "TEXT" format grow from one kilobyte (1KB), to over a ten kilobyte (10kb) one. There is no need for that, especially when the bulk of the size for message is not even related to the "Subject Line:" of the original message/post. The problem is many people go "Off-topic", I would suggest if a person has no solution/suggestion for original poster or question for help, move on to the next message, and don't add to the thread.

And with "Top Posting", it is easier for the sender to write his/her reply to a previous message, followed by the 'text' of the message that's being replied to. Then the rest of the 'text' in the reply message can be highlighted, than deleted, to save bandwidth.

--
Add MS News Server to your OE with news://msnews.microsoft.com/

Rich/rerat

(RRR News) <message rule>

Cerridwen said:
This group has well over *1,000* posts a day. Are you saying you keep
ALL these visible in your newsreader? You must be nuts.

They're Yanks...need I say more...? <eg>
 
M

mrtee

Well, I suppose, since you say so.

What difference does it make, I can see the entire thread that way and not just bits & pieces.

--
Just my 2¢ worth
Jeff
__________in response to__________
| This group has well over *1,000* posts a day. Are you saying you keep ALL
| these visible in your newsreader? You must be nuts.
|
|
 
B

Box134

Bruce Chambers top posts. How do you explain that? Whatever Bruce does is
good enough for me.
 

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