To Buy or Not To Buy?

[Marc Nutty]

Hi,

Well, I am kinda new to testing Windows OS's, however I'm guessin the
productivity and efficiency of Vista will improve as the build progress lol.

However, due to the multiple versions, and quite high costs, how many of you
will be buying Vista when it is released? or be converting back to XP once
the free beta versions expire?

Also, If i bought Vista, is it only licenced for one computer? or could I
install it on my other desktops (2) with the same key or a different one? Or
would I have to buy it twice lol? :S

Cheers,

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

Cost is not expected to be much different from XP. Like XP, each copy of
Vista will be licensed for one computer only. You can save a few dollars by
buying a second license for a another computer just as you can now with XP
but the difference isn't enough to matter very much. You will be able to
buy an upgrade edition in some situations but I don't think MS has published
the upgrade matrix yet.

 

[Guest]

For those with families/students I hope Microsoft will keep the tradition of
selling student and teacher versions of the Vista operating system as they do
with Windows XP and Office 2003.

 

[William R. Mosher]

While I do love Vista, I think there are going to be a lot of people are going to stay with XP unless they are in the market for a new computer. Vista is wonderful but I think it is more evolutionary than revolutionary and I have not seen anything that Vista does that you cannot do with XP using some third party programs.

William
Hi,

Well, I am kinda new to testing Windows OS's, however I'm guessin the
productivity and efficiency of Vista will improve as the build progress lol.

However, due to the multiple versions, and quite high costs, how many of you
will be buying Vista when it is released? or be converting back to XP once
the free beta versions expire?

Also, If i bought Vista, is it only licenced for one computer? or could I
install it on my other desktops (2) with the same key or a different one? Or
would I have to buy it twice lol? :S

Cheers,

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

Be sure to share your concern with MS via the Feedback link on your desktop.

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

That might be true if you are only looking at the GUI, but under the hood is a whole other matter. The TCP/IP stack has been completely rewritten, and so on.
While I do love Vista, I think there are going to be a lot of people are going to stay with XP unless they are in the market for a new computer. Vista is wonderful but I think it is more evolutionary than revolutionary and I have not seen anything that Vista does that you cannot do with XP using some third party programs.

William
Hi,

Well, I am kinda new to testing Windows OS's, however I'm guessin the
productivity and efficiency of Vista will improve as the build progress lol.

However, due to the multiple versions, and quite high costs, how many of you
will be buying Vista when it is released? or be converting back to XP once
the free beta versions expire?

Also, If i bought Vista, is it only licenced for one computer? or could I
install it on my other desktops (2) with the same key or a different one? Or
would I have to buy it twice lol? :S

Cheers,

 

[Jonah]

I have to have one copy of ultimate for work purposes, it will stay on
a test box, other than that I will keep a XP box for games and video
editing and the rest are on SuSE Linux as they are now.

No I won't be upgrading to Vista, from what I have seen it is going to
be a lot of pain with not much left that was originally promised.

Looks very good, interesting to play with but from a commercial POV
forget it.

I do like Office 12 though, excellent.

Jonah

 

[Richard Hay]

They never offered that with the OS - only with Office.

The new line up for Office System 2007 is:

http://www.microsoft.com/office/preview/suites/default.mspx

Home and Student will replace Student and Teacher.

http://www.microsoft.com/office/preview/suites/home/guide.mspx

No Outlook in this version though. The expectation is most everyone at that
level will use Windows Mail or Live Mail Desktop.

 

[William R. Mosher]

I intend on getting the final release of Vista for my computer because I know that under the hood it is a much better OS than XP. However, I would bet that most people do not know or care about what is under the hood as long as it does what they want it to do. which is why I see many users staying with XP until the times comes when they purchase a new computer. My father in law would be still running 98 if he did not buy a new computer 3 years ago. Even now he prefers the old classic look rather than Luna.

William

That might be true if you are only looking at the GUI, but under the hood is a whole other matter. The TCP/IP stack has been completely rewritten, and so on.
While I do love Vista, I think there are going to be a lot of people are going to stay with XP unless they are in the market for a new computer. Vista is wonderful but I think it is more evolutionary than revolutionary and I have not seen anything that Vista does that you cannot do with XP using some third party programs.

William
Hi,

Well, I am kinda new to testing Windows OS's, however I'm guessin the
productivity and efficiency of Vista will improve as the build progress lol.

However, due to the multiple versions, and quite high costs, how many of you
will be buying Vista when it is released? or be converting back to XP once
the free beta versions expire?

Also, If i bought Vista, is it only licenced for one computer? or could I
install it on my other desktops (2) with the same key or a different one? Or
would I have to buy it twice lol? :S

Cheers,

 

[John]

I agree, I personally see no reason to upgrade to Vista when it comes out,
maybe on a new system if they haven't made their WGA and Activation so
annoying that its like renting the software instead of owning a license.

While I do love Vista, I think there are going to be a lot of people are
going to stay with XP unless they are in the market for a new computer.
Vista is wonderful but I think it is more evolutionary than revolutionary
and I have not seen anything that Vista does that you cannot do with XP
using some third party programs.

 

[Luke Fitzwater]

Exactly like renting; you do not own the software. Read the EULA that
comes with most software and you will see that the end user is only
"borrowing" the software from the software company under the license
agreement.

This is the main reason why I offer GNU software first to my clients and
then if they persist move onto closed source proprietary software. And
yes, I do train them how to use the GNU software if they ask.

-Luke

 

[John]

Yeah, well while it might provide IPv6 by default, along with other
improvements, some of the under the hood stuff doesn't really matter. I
don't feel that the little stuff is worth paying for, and Vista is not like
Win2k to WinXP... There is some major changes under the hood that have so
far been some real issues with drivers, and software that need to be solved.

Also the new firewall is not user friendly by any means, which is why the
outbound was set to allow by default, they don't even prompt for outbound
connections so either the rule allows it or not. Now I have been using rule
based firewalls for years, but the average user still usually finds ZA
complicated at first, the rules configuration/might as well be in latin to
those who don't wan to take the time to learn.

That might be true if you are only looking at the GUI, but under the hood is
a whole other matter. The TCP/IP stack has been completely rewritten, and
so on.
While I do love Vista, I think there are going to be a lot of people are
going to stay with XP unless they are in the market for a new computer.
Vista is wonderful but I think it is more evolutionary than revolutionary
and I have not seen anything that Vista does that you cannot do with XP
using some third party programs.

William
Hi,

Well, I am kinda new to testing Windows OS's, however I'm guessin the
productivity and efficiency of Vista will improve as the build progress
lol.

However, due to the multiple versions, and quite high costs, how many of
you
will be buying Vista when it is released? or be converting back to XP
once
the free beta versions expire?

Also, If i bought Vista, is it only licenced for one computer? or could
I
install it on my other desktops (2) with the same key or a different
one? Or
would I have to buy it twice lol? :S

Cheers,

 

[Mario Rosario]

I just want the egg timer.
I intend on getting the final release of Vista for my computer because I know that under the hood it is a much better OS than XP. However, I would bet that most people do not know or care about what is under the hood as long as it does what they want it to do. which is why I see many users staying with XP until the times comes when they purchase a new computer. My father in law would be still running 98 if he did not buy a new computer 3 years ago. Even now he prefers the old classic look rather than Luna.

William

That might be true if you are only looking at the GUI, but under the hood is a whole other matter. The TCP/IP stack has been completely rewritten, and so on.
While I do love Vista, I think there are going to be a lot of people are going to stay with XP unless they are in the market for a new computer. Vista is wonderful but I think it is more evolutionary than revolutionary and I have not seen anything that Vista does that you cannot do with XP using some third party programs.

William
Hi,

Well, I am kinda new to testing Windows OS's, however I'm guessin the
productivity and efficiency of Vista will improve as the build progress lol.

However, due to the multiple versions, and quite high costs, how many of you
will be buying Vista when it is released? or be converting back to XP once
the free beta versions expire?

Also, If i bought Vista, is it only licenced for one computer? or could I
install it on my other desktops (2) with the same key or a different one? Or
would I have to buy it twice lol? :S

Cheers,

 

[Mario Rosario]

I don't believe I should pay for something borrowed.

 

[Mark D. VandenBeg]

Your taxes pay for the public library...

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

To quote the famous line from Shakespeare's Omlette, "You must be yolking!"
I just want the egg timer.
I intend on getting the final release of Vista for my computer because I know that under the hood it is a much better OS than XP. However, I would bet that most people do not know or care about what is under the hood as long as it does what they want it to do. which is why I see many users staying with XP until the times comes when they purchase a new computer. My father in law would be still running 98 if he did not buy a new computer 3 years ago. Even now he prefers the old classic look rather than Luna.

William

That might be true if you are only looking at the GUI, but under the hood is a whole other matter. The TCP/IP stack has been completely rewritten, and so on.
While I do love Vista, I think there are going to be a lot of people are going to stay with XP unless they are in the market for a new computer. Vista is wonderful but I think it is more evolutionary than revolutionary and I have not seen anything that Vista does that you cannot do with XP using some third party programs.

William
Hi,

Well, I am kinda new to testing Windows OS's, however I'm guessin the
productivity and efficiency of Vista will improve as the build progress lol.

However, due to the multiple versions, and quite high costs, how many of you
will be buying Vista when it is released? or be converting back to XP once
the free beta versions expire?

Also, If i bought Vista, is it only licenced for one computer? or could I
install it on my other desktops (2) with the same key or a different one? Or
would I have to buy it twice lol? :S

Cheers,

 

[Luke Fitzwater]

Unfortunately you have no choice, unless of course you want to write the
whole thing yourself. Almost every license says what I paraphrased; the
only exception to this I've seen is the GNU's GPL.

-Luke