To buy? or not to buy?

G

Guest

Hi,
Well hopefully the RC1 and 2 will be a lil faster than the beta 2.

Though any info on the price of each version (mainly Home and Ultimate)? and
will you be buying a copy for your home comps or summuts? or just reverting
back to XP when all the free versions end?

Also, do any of the packages enable you to install on more than one comp? or
is it like just one copy, one computer?

cheers,
 
K

Kerry Brown

marc.nutty said:
Hi,
Well hopefully the RC1 and 2 will be a lil faster than the beta 2.

Though any info on the price of each version (mainly Home and
Ultimate)? and will you be buying a copy for your home comps or
summuts? or just reverting back to XP when all the free versions end?

Also, do any of the packages enable you to install on more than one
comp? or is it like just one copy, one computer?

cheers,

I don't think anyone will have a definitive answer to your questions until
the RTM is released.
 
M

Mario Rosario

This I heard from Balmer(sp?) during an interview on tv.

This is the pricing strategy. You will pay similar as you've paid before.
Students and teachers will have to purchase the Home Edition rather than pay
the academic pricing. He also mentioned something about Windows Live,
although I have no idea what it's about. The various editions like the Home
Edition, Ultimate are strategy for different pricing. Similar goes for
office.

Ouch! This is gonna be expensive for me. I think they should have a loyal
customer discount. Maybe I'll get a job with Microsoft, I heard software is
real cheap then.
 
D

dotcom

Yeah, the days of only having one PC in the household are gone!
Now it's two and three PC's plus a laptop.
Could get pricey!
dotcom
 
C

Colin Barnhorst

No RC2 is projected. There are many reasons for slow performance. The code
still contains debugging code, the code is not optimized, and beta drivers
are not up to speed either, plus remaining bugs.
 
K

KWE

Colin Barnhorst wrote On 7/8/2006 10:41 AM:
I wish there was a Family Plan like Apple has for OS/X. Unlikely.
Seeing as how Windows Genuine Advantage anti-piracy is solely aimed at
folks who buy retail copies and install on multiple home PCs, I think it
rather unlikely that Microsoft will create a family-pak. They have
passed on that opportunity each time they had a chance to do it.
 
J

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

As Vista gets refined, I expect performance to increase.

Microsoft has not published pricing information other than to sat something
like similar pricing to what is currently available.

I doubt there will be any multi/family packs but Microsoft can change the
strategy.
I expect the one license one computer as has been with all previous
Microsoft consumer OSs.

As for costing more for those with multiple computers.
Not a problem at all since those users can choose which if any computers
need Vista.
A mix of OSs with Vista as now should cause no problems.
People should only upgrade to Vista only if:
1. The computer system can support Vista
2. There is a benefit expected from the upgrade.

As usual most going to Vista will get Vista on their new computer which will
be due for replacement for other reasons.
So Vista cost will be largely a non issue for most.
 
J

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

When did RC2 = RTM?
AFAIK, an RC has not been = to RTM so there may be a flaw in your logic.
 
M

Mark D. VandenBerg

Perhaps Colin was intimating "in the CPP" as a contextual parameter, as most
of the posters here, including myself, do not have access to interim drops.
 
C

Colin Barnhorst

RC1 is a stage. The first builds are not the ones released to testers
outside of MS. The first RC1 build you will see will merely be the one that
passed standards for release to outside testing.

RC1 will evolve through a hundred or more builds while the rtm branch is
being built with successive builds until it meets the standards for release
as Vista final.

Several of the RC1 interim builds will be released to outside testing, like
the TechBeta program and the TAP's. All this time the successive builds
(new builds are made overnight) will be in use by folks inside MS.

Through all of this the teams at MS are going head to head over inclusion
and exclusion of features and making judgments about projects at to whether
resources will permit meeting standards in time for release. If not, such
projects will be deferred until Vienna. Some work on Vienna is already
under way.
 
M

Mark D. VandenBerg

Where can I download my copy of Vienna? Is this included in the CPP? Will
my same product key work? Will it include Sudoku? Will it work on the
computer I don't have yet? What about my old one that doesn't work anymore?
How much will it cost?

Well. you opened the door...
 
M

MICHAEL

What about Fiji?

Perhaps, that will be a SP1 or SP2 for Vista.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_"Fiji"
Windows "Fiji" is rumored to be Microsoft's present codename for either an update to or a
successor of Windows Vista, Microsoft's upcoming operating system. Microsoft has not
acknowledged this release, or any of its features.

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1948644,00.asp

Will the delay in Microsoft's Windows Vista have a domino effect on other planned releases of
Windows?

Partner sources close to the company said that Microsoft has sketched out plans for Windows
"Fiji" (also referred to by some Microsoft watchers as Vista R2)—the version of Windows set to
follow Vista—as for Windows "Vienna," the successor to Fiji, partner sources close to the
company said.

Microsoft has not shared broadly its working feature set for Fiji, according to partners
contacted by Microsoft Watch.

Nor have company executives talked about what's on tap for Vienna, the version of Windows
formerly code-named Blackcomb.

And exactly when either Fiji or Vienna will hit is anyone's guess.

Since Microsoft announced at the end of March that Vista was running behind schedule and would
not be ready to launch in time for the 2006 holiday season, Microsoft brass have gone mum about
its future plans for its desktop and server Windows releases.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_"Vienna"

The code name "Blackcomb" was originally assigned to a version of Windows that was planned to
follow Windows XP (codenamed "Whistler"; both named after the Whistler-Blackcomb resort) in
both client and server versions. However, in August 2001, the release of Blackcomb was pushed
back several years and Vista (originally codenamed "Longhorn" after a bar in the
Whistler-Blackcomb resort) was announced as a release between XP and Blackcomb. Since then, the
status of Blackcomb has undergone many alterations and PR manipulations, ranging from Blackcomb
being scrapped entirely, to becoming a server-only release. As of 2006, it is still planned as
both a client and server release with a current release estimate of anytime between 2009-2012,
although no firm release date or target has yet been publicized.

In January 2006, Blackcomb was renamed to "Vienna",[1] and in April 2006, Windows "Fiji"
emerged as a codename for an interim release between Vista and "Vienna".
 
W

William R. Mosher

Thankfully none of the builds were called 'Bronx' or 'Harlem', or 'Hanoi'. I think a zoom view of the 'Hanoi Hilton' might be a little too much for those who were there in the late 1960's and early 1970's.

William


What about Fiji?

Perhaps, that will be a SP1 or SP2 for Vista.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_"Fiji"
Windows "Fiji" is rumored to be Microsoft's present codename for either an update to or a
successor of Windows Vista, Microsoft's upcoming operating system. Microsoft has not
acknowledged this release, or any of its features.

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1948644,00.asp

Will the delay in Microsoft's Windows Vista have a domino effect on other planned releases of
Windows?

Partner sources close to the company said that Microsoft has sketched out plans for Windows
"Fiji" (also referred to by some Microsoft watchers as Vista R2)—the version of Windows set to
follow Vista—as for Windows "Vienna," the successor to Fiji, partner sources close to the
company said.

Microsoft has not shared broadly its working feature set for Fiji, according to partners
contacted by Microsoft Watch.

Nor have company executives talked about what's on tap for Vienna, the version of Windows
formerly code-named Blackcomb.

And exactly when either Fiji or Vienna will hit is anyone's guess.

Since Microsoft announced at the end of March that Vista was running behind schedule and would
not be ready to launch in time for the 2006 holiday season, Microsoft brass have gone mum about
its future plans for its desktop and server Windows releases.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_"Vienna"

The code name "Blackcomb" was originally assigned to a version of Windows that was planned to
follow Windows XP (codenamed "Whistler"; both named after the Whistler-Blackcomb resort) in
both client and server versions. However, in August 2001, the release of Blackcomb was pushed
back several years and Vista (originally codenamed "Longhorn" after a bar in the
Whistler-Blackcomb resort) was announced as a release between XP and Blackcomb. Since then, the
status of Blackcomb has undergone many alterations and PR manipulations, ranging from Blackcomb
being scrapped entirely, to becoming a server-only release. As of 2006, it is still planned as
both a client and server release with a current release estimate of anytime between 2009-2012,
although no firm release date or target has yet been publicized.

In January 2006, Blackcomb was renamed to "Vienna",[1] and in April 2006, Windows "Fiji"
emerged as a codename for an interim release between Vista and "Vienna".
 
C

Colin Barnhorst

It might be an R2 but I doubt if it will be a service pack.

MICHAEL said:
What about Fiji?

Perhaps, that will be a SP1 or SP2 for Vista.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_"Fiji"
Windows "Fiji" is rumored to be Microsoft's present codename for either an
update to or a successor of Windows Vista, Microsoft's upcoming operating
system. Microsoft has not acknowledged this release, or any of its
features.

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1948644,00.asp

Will the delay in Microsoft's Windows Vista have a domino effect on other
planned releases of Windows?

Partner sources close to the company said that Microsoft has sketched out
plans for Windows "Fiji" (also referred to by some Microsoft watchers as
Vista R2)—the version of Windows set to follow Vista—as for Windows
"Vienna," the successor to Fiji, partner sources close to the company
said.

Microsoft has not shared broadly its working feature set for Fiji,
according to partners contacted by Microsoft Watch.

Nor have company executives talked about what's on tap for Vienna, the
version of Windows formerly code-named Blackcomb.

And exactly when either Fiji or Vienna will hit is anyone's guess.

Since Microsoft announced at the end of March that Vista was running
behind schedule and would not be ready to launch in time for the 2006
holiday season, Microsoft brass have gone mum about its future plans for
its desktop and server Windows releases.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_"Vienna"

The code name "Blackcomb" was originally assigned to a version of Windows
that was planned to follow Windows XP (codenamed "Whistler"; both named
after the Whistler-Blackcomb resort) in both client and server versions.
However, in August 2001, the release of Blackcomb was pushed back several
years and Vista (originally codenamed "Longhorn" after a bar in the
Whistler-Blackcomb resort) was announced as a release between XP and
Blackcomb. Since then, the status of Blackcomb has undergone many
alterations and PR manipulations, ranging from Blackcomb being scrapped
entirely, to becoming a server-only release. As of 2006, it is still
planned as both a client and server release with a current release
estimate of anytime between 2009-2012, although no firm release date or
target has yet been publicized.

In January 2006, Blackcomb was renamed to "Vienna",[1] and in April 2006,
Windows "Fiji" emerged as a codename for an interim release between Vista
and "Vienna".


Colin Barnhorst said:
RC1 is a stage. The first builds are not the ones released to testers
outside of MS. The first RC1 build you will see will merely be the one
that passed standards for release to outside testing.

RC1 will evolve through a hundred or more builds while the rtm branch is
being built with successive builds until it meets the standards for
release as Vista final.

Several of the RC1 interim builds will be released to outside testing,
like the TechBeta program and the TAP's. All this time the successive
builds (new builds are made overnight) will be in use by folks inside MS.

Through all of this the teams at MS are going head to head over inclusion
and exclusion of features and making judgments about projects at to
whether resources will permit meeting standards in time for release. If
not, such projects will be deferred until Vienna. Some work on Vienna is
already under way.
 

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